The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[dweezil78]

I also rarely ride both of the Storybookland attractions, probably less than you do come to think of it. I’m also willing to be realistic but at a certain point they have to draw the line on what they re willing to sacrifice. What Storybookland does for FL can’t be found on a spreadsheet. Besides, Storybookland should be way low on the list after most of Toontown, the Fantasyland Theatre, Autopia/ Subs and/or most of TL and the Motorboat Cruise area when it comes to real estate for new attractions. And that’s just at DL.

Yeah -- I agree. Definitely way more things that belong on the chopping block first! Re: Storybookland though, if you never/rarely ride those attractions then really the only thing you're experiencing is what is visible from walking thru FL. Love all that landscaping, kinetic energy, and good 'ole Monstro. But that also means there's a pretty sizable chunk in the back that is more or less going to waste!

 

[mickEblu]

Yeah -- I agree. Definitely way more things that belong on the chopping block first! Re: Storybookland though, if you never/rarely ride those attractions then really the only thing you're experiencing is what is visible from walking thru FL. Love all that landscaping, kinetic energy, and good 'ole Monstro. But that also means there's a pretty sizable chunk in the back that is more or less going to waste!

I know! It’s a tough one. The kinetics, Monstro and the landscaping do wonders for the land though. It would be hard to imagine FL without them. I wonder if they ever do go with something like this, if there would be away to keep most of the landscaping in front/ Monstro in tact.

Anyway, As much as capacity is important So is the story and design of the park. I think it’s important to leave those charming DL features like Storybookland. In addition, I think attractions like Storybookland add to the mystery of the park and give it depth. I like not being able to see the back of Casey Jr. or most of the the canal boats from the FL walkway. It’a like that whole nook and cranny thing but magnified. It’s part of the reason I like the old ROA more.

 

[Phroobar]

It's good to see that Knotts isn't afraid to show the true meaning of Christmas in their park. Disney would never do such a thing. They are too busy with commercialism.

 

[dweezil78]

I know! It’s a tough one. The kinetics, Monstro and the landscaping do wonders for the land though. It would be hard to imagine FL without them. I wonder if they ever do go with something like this, if there would be away to keep most of the landscaping in front/ Monstro in tact.

Anyway, As much as capacity is important So is the story and design of the park. I think it’s important to leave those charming DL features like Storybookland. In addition, I think attractions like Storybookland add to the mystery of the park and give it depth. I like not being able to see the back of Casey Jr. or most of the the canal boats from the FL walkway. It’a like that whole nook and cranny thing but magnified. It’s part of the reason I like the old ROA more.

Yep totally with you. I'd sacrifice Toon Town and FL Theatre first in a heartbeat in order to keep stuff like that which adds character to the park and makes Disneyland what it is. It's just a shame that those distinctly Disneyland nooks and crannies don't really add up to high guest capacity!

 

[dweezil78]

It's good to see that Knotts isn't afraid to show the true meaning of Christmas in their park. Disney would never do such a thing. They are too busy with commercialism.

Yeah... I'll be thinking about that cute little lawn nativity scene when I'm there on Sunday attending this.

 

[mickEblu]

Yep totally with you. I'd sacrifice Toon Town and FL Theatre first in a heartbeat in order to keep stuff like that which adds character to the park and makes Disneyland what it is. It's just a shame that those distinctly Disneyland nooks and crannies don't really add up to high guest capacity!

Haha true. Well if they start chopping away at what makes Disneyland Disneyland they might not have to worry about capacity Long term. Who am I kidding, the park will probably be packed for as long as it exists. It would be great if they got to the root of the problem ( overcrowding) instead of messing with the things that are the essence/ fabric of the park.

If I was in charge I probably would have green lit the butchering of the ROA for SWL ( if there was absolutely no way of putting it in another park in less than 5-7 years or somewhere at DCA / Simba lot. I don’t think under any circumstances would I green light demoing Storybookland.

 

[mickEblu]

Yeah... I'll be thinking about that cute little lawn nativity scene when I'm there on Sunday attending this.

How is that by the way? How early do you have to get there to get a decent spot and do you know if they’re doing it Saturday too?

 

[dweezil78]

How is that by the way? How early do you have to get there to get a decent spot and do you know if they’re doing it Saturday too?

It's really amazing and beautiful to watch, even if you're not super religious or even celebrate Christmas. They really do an incredible job putting it on every year. Lots of clips on Youtube if you search for it! I'm fortunate enough to have an inside connection w/ seats, but I know they allow guests to line up on the sides and watch as well. I'd imagine you probably want to get there pretty early to score a spot as space is pretty limited since they try to keep the walkways clear.

 

[Phroobar]

Yeah... I'll be thinking about that cute little lawn nativity scene when I'm there on Sunday attending this.

That kind of looks like this to me.

 

[FerretAfros]

It's good to see that Knotts isn't afraid to show the true meaning of Christmas in their park. Disney would never do such a thing. They are too busy with commercialism.

How quickly we forget the far more elaborate display that anchored the "peace on earth" area of the Osborne Lights in WDW

And the hundred-or-so angels surrounding some light-up nativity figures at the giant globe:

Fun fact: the nativity set was originally part of the décor package for the Italy pavilion in Epcot, and was sold to the Osborne family in the early 90's when Disney changed their setup, only to return to Disney a few years later as part of the Osborne display at the Studios

 

[dweezil78]

That kind of looks like this to me.

The color on the image is a bit saturated/over-filtered... I assure you it looks very beautiful and classy in person. Better reference here:

 

[Darkbeer1]

How is that by the way? How early do you have to get there to get a decent spot and do you know if they’re doing it Saturday too?

They do it on two days. This is an un-official event, and designed for invited guests only (Not listed on the daily guide). The guest reader might be different for each night, but lately has been the same for both.

That said, many loyal fans will get there before park opening and camp out all day. There are tricks, because they need to keep the area open as much as possible for traffic control, plus run parades. They will set up a very strict pathway policy, basically go towards the castle on the right (east side), and then going towards the entrance on the west side, including using the overflow pathways that are usually treated as backstage areas. So a first timer will not get a decent spot, IMHO opinion. Just find something on Main Street near the curb.

 

[mickEblu]

They do it on two days. This is an un-official event, and designed for invited guests only (Not listed on the daily guide). The guest reader might be different for each night, but lately has been the same for both.

That said, many loyal fans will get there before park opening and camp out all day. There are tricks, because they need to keep the area open as much as possible for traffic control, plus run parades. They will set up a very strict pathway policy, basically go towards the castle on the right (east side), and then going towards the entrance on the west side, including using the overflow pathways that are usually treated as backstage areas. So a first timer will not get a decent spot, IMHO opinion. Just find something on Main Street near the curb.

Thanks for the breakdown. That sounds like a lot of work though. I think I’ll watch it on YouTube. Maybe I can weasel my way into a guest list next year.

 

[Antaundra]

There are probably some ADA and safety concerns that make Storybook Land Canals a prime candidate to be removed. As much as those boats rock while loading/unloading it's amazing they don't tip over more often. Especially as the the average weight of park goers increases, those boats feel more and more precarious.

 

[mickEblu]

Super Star Limo was so bad we had to create a new category for it. See below

1. Bad.
2. Really Bad
3. Terrible
4. So BAD its Good
5. Super Star Limo

 

[Phroobar]

Super Star Limo was so bad we had to create a new category for it. See below

1. Bad.
2. Really Bad
3. Terrible
4. So BAD its Good
5. Super Star Limo

So GOTG:MB fits in the So BAD its Good category?

 

[mickEblu]

So GOTG:MB fits in the So BAD its Good category?

Hmmm. No GOTG is fun it just gets “the most unnecessary overlay of all time” award.

 

[Disney Irish]

Hmmm. No GOTG is fun it just gets the award for “the most unnecessary overlay of all time” award.

You'll be surprised, I actually agree that GotG was an unnecessary overlay. With that being said I can understand why it was done. And I do agree its fun and, in my humble opinion, a better experience over ToT (which I know you will disagree).

 

[mickEblu]

You'll be surprised, I actually agree that GotG was an unnecessary overlay. With that being said I can understand why it was done. And I do agree its fun and, in my humble opinion, a better experience over ToT (which I know you will disagree).

I do like the random ride profiles/ drop sequences but man it makes me wonder what it could of been like if they showed TOT some of that love. They could have based some of the profiles on a few of the most memorable episodes or just gave us random original profiles.

TOT had great buildup and I really miss that distorted mood setting jazz music. It just does so much more for setting a time and place than you know- a movie soundtrack or 70s songs. Anyway, Ive been on GOTG 4 times now and have actually got a different profile each time. Of the 4 , I only found MAD to be as or more thrilling than TOTs ride experience.

 

[No Name]

Six Flags planned to hold the world's largest snowball fight today with fake snowballs. But it was cancelled because many of the parks were closed... due to real snow.