The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

AAA-Ticket? The original CS would then be a 0-Ticket (free), because it had even less theming, and what theming there was felt like less than a Six Flags.

no the normal california screamin was a awesome coaster unto itself that it didnt need theming or a silly ticket rating Disney fans like to give rides. It stood as it was- a good roller coaster. then they threw all that incredibles vomit on it and while the coaster part itself is stil great the junk they threw on there has hurt the overall experience making it a sub par ride now.

 

[Sharon&Susan]

AAA-Ticket? The original CS would then be a 0-Ticket (free), because it had even less theming, and what theming there was felt like less than a Six Flags.

Motor Boat Cruise was a B Ticket and that was just a river boat ride through a forest and underneath some Monorail tracks.

 

[Miru]

Motor Boat Cruise was a B Ticket and that was just a river boat ride through a forest and underneath some Monorail tracks.

Yeah... just using natural scenery is fine.

 

[Sharon&Susan]

Yeah... just using natural scenery is fine.

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[Miru]

Motor Boat Cruise was a B Ticket and that was just a river boat ride through a forest and underneath some Monorail tracks.

I think the Gummi Bears version was a bit of an improvement, but could have seen further tweaks to add smells, motion, etc.

 

[mickEblu]

I think the Gummi Bears version was a bit of an improvement, but could have seen further tweaks to add smells, motion, etc.

Parents didn’t take me on that once. I have no recollection of even seeing the motorboat cruise and I think they closed when I was 11 even though I can vaguely remember going to the parks once during the Disney afternoon promos. I’m just glad I have some vague memories of America Sings, America the Beautiful and the Skyway and the legend that is Superstar Limo. Then there’s other attractions that I have a memory or two of that closed when I was even older but I rarely went on for different reasons like Submarine Voyage, Rocket Jets, People Mover and to a lesser extent in its later years CBJ.

 

[Brer Panther]

no the normal california screamin was a awesome coaster unto itself that it didnt need theming or a silly ticket rating Disney fans like to give rides. It stood as it was- a good roller coaster.

Ah, but did it have an IP attached to it? Clearly the Incredibles retheme was necessary because Disney wanted to promote the recently-released Incredibles 2.

That was sarcasm, of course.

 

[Miru]

Ah, but did it have an IP attached to it? Clearly the Incredibles retheme was necessary because Disney wanted to promote the recently-released Incredibles 2.

That was sarcasm, of course.

2018 was the year of fan-hated sequels the critics and general public had no idea what the fans were blabbing about, really. Ralph Breaks the Internet and Incredibles 2 reserve Animated Atrocities to bring them to light.

 

[PiratesMansion]

2018 was the year of fan-hated sequels the critics and general public had no idea what the fans were blabbing about, really. Ralph Breaks the Internet and Incredibles 2 reserve Animated Atrocities to bring them to light.

Ralph was flaming hot trash, but I really didn't think there was anything wrong with Incredibles 2. Not as good as the first one, but still easily the best non-Toy Story sequel they've done.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I know many have already seen Soul by now, and I'm getting there, but I felt compelled to watch the OTHER, chronologically first Pixar movie of 2020 first: Onward.

I think there was the potential for something interesting here, and you can see what they're going for: trying to find meaning in a relationship that was cut short, offering commentary on how skill has been replaced by mediocrity, and in some ways it's the male version of Frozen in terms of the message it offers.

But the whole thing is bogged down by this feeling that everything was only about 80% there before the release date arrived and it had to be sent to theaters. I don't enjoy when Disney/Pixar sets movies in our exact contemporary world but with different character design, and the modern sensibilities of the world-building and the voice acting (I can't speak for his other feature work, but Chris Pratt might as well be on Parks and Rec here) are going to make this film incredibly dated down the line. The way that "Dad" was portrayed could have led to some inspired animation but I felt like the animators really only had one idea of where it could go, and so hammered that in repeatedly instead of trying to take it in different directions-I think of how expressive the magic carpet from Aladdin was able to be and how one dimensional Dadlegs ended up being by comparison. There is some development of the plot and characters, I guess, but it all feels like it's a few ingredients away from really forming something cohesive.

It's far from awful (and it is a considerably better movie than, say, the Good Dinosaur), but it is forgettable. It seems like Soul is for the most part being received well, which makes me happy. Hopefully someday Pixar will be able to have another golden age where everything they touched turned to gold, as opposed to the coin flip Pixar films have become.

 

[waltography]

Ralph was flaming hot trash, but I really didn't think there was anything wrong with Incredibles 2. Not as good as the first one, but still easily the best non-Toy Story sequel they've done.

Incredibles 2 was really satisfying as a sequel, which is more than can be said of many other Pixar sequels. Maybe not "wait a decade plus for it" satisfying, but the glow up in animation quality was for sure worth it.

 

[mickEblu]

Incredibles 2 was really satisfying as a sequel, which is more than can be said of many other Pixar sequels. Maybe not "wait a decade plus for it" satisfying, but the glow up in animation quality was for sure worth it.

I really enjoyed it and it’s probably in my Top 6 or 7 Pixar movies

 

[Rich T]

I know many have already seen Soul by now, and I'm getting there, but I felt compelled to watch the OTHER, chronologically first Pixar movie of 2020 first: Onward.

I think there was the potential for something interesting here, and you can see what they're going for: trying to find meaning in a relationship that was cut short, offering commentary on how skill has been replaced by mediocrity, and in some ways it's the male version of Frozen in terms of the message it offers.

But the whole thing is bogged down by this feeling that everything was only about 80% there before the release date arrived and it had to be sent to theaters. I don't enjoy when Disney/Pixar sets movies in our exact contemporary world but with different character design, and the modern sensibilities of the world-building and the voice acting (I can't speak for his other work, but Chris Pratt might as well be on Parks and Rec here) are going to make this film incredibly dated down the line. The way that "Dad" was portrayed could have led to some inspired animation but I felt like the animators really only had one idea of where it could go, and so hammered that in repeatedly instead of trying to take it in different directions-I think of how expressive the magic carpet from Aladdin was able to be and how one dimensional Dadlegs ended up being by comparison. There is development of the plot and characters, but it all feels like it's a few ingredients away from really forming something cohesive.

It's far from awful (and it is a considerably better movie than, say, the Good Dinosaur), but it is forgettable. It seems like Soul is for the most part being received well, which makes me happy. Hopefully someday Pixar will be able to have another golden age where everything they touched turned to gold, as opposed to the coin flip Pixar films have become.

I really enjoyed Onward, but more for individual moments than the plot. Things like... when the Mom’s centaur cop boyfriend first enters the family’s house and accidentally unknowingly wrecks furniture with his huge horse tail end. That scene was funny AND spoke volumes about how kids in a single-parent family feel when the parent’s new significant other enters their lives. The movie’s full of gems like that where the fantasy element is used brilliantly.

I just wish the main story had featured something—ANYTHING—more appealing than watching a pair of pants stagger around. It all leads to a wonderful and heartbreaking conclusion, but I feel the same as you: The project needed more development time.

That said, I still enjoyed Onward more than Brave, Good Dinosaur, Finding Dory, TS4, or Incredibles 2. And I’d actually love to see an Onward TV series if done well. Most fantasy comedies these days take the easy, cynical route. I’m glad that Onward, despite its flaws, is good-natured and optimistic.

 

[waltography]

I really enjoyed it and it’s probably in my Top 6 or 7 Pixar movies

Oh, this reminds me! There's an interesting website called sorta.app that allows you to rank things based on 1v1 match-ups. I recently did one for Pixar movies and was a bit surprised at the results:

There's some rankings I'd change here and there (I don't know if I'd rank all the Toy Story movies as high as I did, and Coco definitely needs to move up in the list!), but it's a pretty fun way to figure out rankings if anyone's interested.

 

[Miru]

Ralph was flaming hot trash, but I really didn't think there was anything wrong with Incredibles 2. Not as good as the first one, but still easily the best non-Toy Story sequel they've done.

The antagonist’s motive doesn’t make any sense, they don’t explore much about the “wannabes”, there’s still some lingering fallout from the first they didn’t address, the abandonment of the expanded universe didn’t pan out...

 

[mickEblu]

Oh, this reminds me! There's an interesting website called sorta.app that allows you to rank things based on 1v1 match-ups. I recently did one for Pixar movies and was a bit surprised at the results:

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There's some rankings I'd change here and there (I don't know if I'd rank all the Toy Story movies as high as I did, and Coco definitely needs to move up in the list!), but it's a pretty fun way to figure out rankings if anyone's interested.

This was cool. Mine is pretty accurate. Up and Wall E would be higher on the list but I just don’t like second halves of those movies. With that said, they have moments that are better than many of the movies that are higher than them on my list. I feel like Toy Story 2 could be a little higher but overall this list is pretty accurate. A couple issues - I might be giving the original Toy Story too many bonus points for being the original that stayed it all. I also feel that some recency bias may be at work.

The “which movie would you take to a deserted Island” thing really puts things into perspective. I found myself being honest and choosing the films that found the most entertaining and enjoyed most from start to finish. Music and emotional impact also play a big role for me.

 

[Rich T]

Oh, this reminds me! There's an interesting website called sorta.app that allows you to rank things based on 1v1 match-ups. I recently did one for Pixar movies and was a bit surprised at the results:

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There's some rankings I'd change here and there (I don't know if I'd rank all the Toy Story movies as high as I did, and Coco definitely needs to move up in the list!), but it's a pretty fun way to figure out rankings if anyone's interested.

That really was interesting. Mine turned out very accurate:

I actually haven’t seen Soul yet—I have a feeling from what I’ve heard that it might make my top 3 or 4. And, yeah, Wall-E is that low for me. It’s a good movie, but not my thing; one viewing was enough for me.

 

[waltography]

That really was interesting. Mine turned out very accurate:
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I actually haven’t seen Soul yet—I have a feeling from what I’ve heard that it might make my top 3 or 4. And, yeah, Wall-E is that low for me. It’s a good movie, but not my thing; one viewing was enough for me.

WALL-E ranked second to last sounds like fighting words This is a really interesting ranking! To be honest, the only consistent thing I've seen among the rankings I've seen is that Good Dinosaur ranks consistently last (poor Arlo!).

 

[Rich T]

WALL-E ranked second to last sounds like fighting words This is a really interesting ranking! To be honest, the only consistent thing I've seen among the rankings I've seen is that Good Dinosaur ranks consistently last (poor Arlo!).

I react to WALL-E the way many people react to Cars, but I will say it’s a good movie, just not for me. And it’s a genuine original. I like Cars even though it’s basically a retelling of Doc Hollywood because...I really like Doc Hollywood! My real list would put Finding Nemo over Onward, but otherwise It’s pretty much good to go.

And to heck with Arlo with his discount Mufasa death scene, annoying caveboy and weird clash of character and background styles. The only good thing about Good Dinosaur was the Sam Elliott T-Rex. The whole movie should have been about him and his family defending their “cattle” in a feature-length Western parody. Now THAT could have been fun!

 

[PiratesMansion]

I salute everyone who has watched all the Cars films...I can't bring myself to watch the sequels.