The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

Rich T

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Totally agree.

What makes me mad is if superheroes and comic books are such a popular hip thing, why can't I find a comic book store anywhere? Why have all the comic book stores closed? You would think they would be packed with people. However, they are as hard to find as Star Wars figure at Walmart.

Most media today is the equivalent of fast food or maybe basic dinner time meals. Very little out there is filling and nourishing for the soul. That goes especially for theme parks.
Comic books (in their classic format) became too expensive. They’ve become the worst value on Earth when it comes to disposable income.
 

Phroobar

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Comic books (in their classic format) became too expensive. They’ve become the worst value on Earth when it comes to disposable income.
That is why I hate physical comic books. They span the story over ten issues and the plot doesn't progress very far in each book. You spend $3 a book plus shipping and it adds up. Worst of all they are monthly so it takes a year to get a fairly simple plot. I guess it is a better deal to just get a subscription online for all of the DC or Marvel books and read them off the Kindle.
 
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TROR

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Watchmen or The Dark Knight Returns.
These are perfect examples of problematic comics that try to make the medium more "adult" but in turn making it even less mature.
Oh, Tror, stop being such a devil’s advocate! 😃

Comic books, films, theme parks, pop music, television, and —yes—narrative-driven video games are all capable of telling stories that can touch people emotionally and even lead to a new avenue of interest and growth.

Are they Hamlet? No. But they generally touch more people than Hamlet. And no one except PR departments, Uber-nerds and George Lucas on PBS are claiming pop culture is on the same level as the literary greats.

Stephen King once compared his novels to Big Macs. And he’s fine with that.


200 years from now, Hamlet, Tom Sawyer and Oliver Twist will still be around. So will Wonderland and Oz. And, just maybe, Superman and Batman. Not on the same level, but all filling important roles. All are art, created by artists. People’s Imaginations like to be fed and awoken by many different forms of storytelling, and no medium should be considered unworthy.

The superhero genre does nothing for me, but I have many Intelligent family members who find the MCU thrilling. I understand the frustration of “serious” film makers, but the fault doesn’t lie with
genres or audiences; the fault lies with studios unwilling to take risks.
See, I'm fine with this. If people like something that's bad, by all means that's understandable. I enjoy The Phantom Menace and I know that's a bad movie. It's when people try to conflate what they like and what's good as the same is when problems arrive. Comic book fans will go to great length to argue comic books and comic book movies are mature and for adults because they're too fragile to accept they've centered their entire life around cheap paper that was stapled together to sell products to children. People can like comics, but so long as they admit the truth that they're a low form of entertainment designed for children I don't take any issue with it. It's the people saying they're legitimate as any other piece of storytelling that's upsets me, because that's a blatant lie.
 

lazyboy97o

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These are perfect examples of problematic comics that try to make the medium more "adult" but in turn making it even less mature.

See, I'm fine with this. If people like something that's bad, by all means that's understandable. I enjoy The Phantom Menace and I know that's a bad movie. It's when people try to conflate what they like and what's good as the same is when problems arrive. Comic book fans will go to great length to argue comic books and comic book movies are mature and for adults because they're too fragile to accept they've centered their entire life around cheap paper that was stapled together to sell products to children. People can like comics, but so long as they admit the truth that they're a low form of entertainment designed for children I don't take any issue with it. It's the people saying they're legitimate as any other piece of storytelling that's upsets me, because that's a blatant lie.
It’s not a lie, you just have some weird problem with mediums that you don’t like because you think it makes you look high and mighty. You are not God, you do not know the past, present and future of an entire medium and get to judge the morality of that collective body of work.
 
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Californian Elitist

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These are perfect examples of problematic comics that try to make the medium more "adult" but in turn making it even less mature.

See, I'm fine with this. If people like something that's bad, by all means that's understandable. I enjoy The Phantom Menace and I know that's a bad movie. It's when people try to conflate what they like and what's good as the same is when problems arrive. Comic book fans will go to great length to argue comic books and comic book movies are mature and for adults because they're too fragile to accept they've centered their entire life around cheap paper that was stapled together to sell products to children. People can like comics, but so long as they admit the truth that they're a low form of entertainment designed for children I don't take any issue with it. It's the people saying they're legitimate as any other piece of storytelling that's upsets me, because that's a blatant lie.

“Truth?”

Opinion vs fact. Look into it.
 

lazyboy97o

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It’s good to learn that fratricide is not violent or that young teenage "love" and suicide are good and wholesome. I was planning to murder someone since my mind is so warped from reading comic books, but I've now learned that the morally true way to do it is to get together a group of friends and stab the guy a bunch of times. I'm also thinking of getting into witchcraft.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
It’s good to learn that fratricide is not violent or that young teenage "love" and suicide are good and wholesome. I was planning to murder someone since my mind is so warped from reading comic books, but I've now learned that the morally true way to do it is to get together a group of friends and stab the guy a bunch of times. I'm also thinking of getting into witchcraft.
Remember that Comics are for kids, Graphic Novels are for adults.
 

Rich T

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As long as no one changes the subject.

If you have something in mind to discuss, by all means.
I tried putting the lighthouse in my living room in Animal Crossing.
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smooch

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That is why I hate physical comic books. They span the story over ten issues and the plot doesn't progress very far in each book. You spend $3 a book plus shipping and it adds up. Worst of all they are monthly so it takes a year to get a fairly simple plot. I guess it is a better deal to just get a subscription online for all of the DC or Marvel books and read them off the Kindle.

I pay for Marvel Unlimited and it is so nice to have. I can choose to start reading through whatever comic series I want to at the time, I don't have to pay outrageous prices for hundreds of books to read entire series' like the Spider-Man comics I'm working through right now, and it makes it incredibly easy to try out a new comic series without committing money to it and risking not even liking the series and thus having basically thrown that money away. If I don't like what I'm reading I can just go back to the home page and choose a new series.
 

PiratesMansion

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This evening, I finally watched Disneyland Around the Seasons, available for your viewing pleasure on Disney+.

I expected to love this, and on paper, it should be an easy sell. The opening of Small World! New Orleans Square! Mr. Lincoln! Primeval World! Flying Saucers! Christmas! But for whatever reason, it just didn't work for me as well as it should have.

The actual opening ceremony of Small World (or at least, what we saw of it) was probably the best part of the episode. The flying spaceman, perhaps second, thematic incongruities aside.

I believe there were people here that at some point had said they would love to have the park now as it existed in this special. Not so for me! I would much rather have the park with New Fantasyland, Pirates, Mansion, and the Mountains, though it's always fun to see old footage of the park.

Apparently the Disney company in the 1960s had exactly one stock applause clip. Which became very obvious because there was a LOT of applause in this special!

The Christmas parade was bizarre. The ugly bugs? Huh? I'm shocked that that Kanga costume was approved to be on the air; it looked like it was one wear away from complete disintegration on the spot. In general, people playing the face characters look extremely wholesome but don't exactly resemble the movie characters. But then, perhaps this was less of an issue when you couldn't readily buy Disney movies on home video and had to wait seven years between viewings. You also couldn't bring them up on your smart TV with the push of a button. Different times.

On the upside, the Reluctant Dragon (!) was a part of the parade and the camera openly showed terrified children watching the parade, so that was a fun novelty.

The ending was very nice; I particularly enjoyed the Christmas tree of singers that was illuminated in the darkness.

I really hope that they release Disney Goes to the World's Fair on D+ soon and/or the Tenth Anniversary Special, both of which I ultimately found more enjoyable.

If you have Disney+, despite my snarking, it is worth seeking out and I would recommend that all aspiring Disneyland historians and the curious seek it out.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Kind of ****es me off that I never got to go on Mission to Mars considering I was 10 years old when it closed and had been to Disneyland numerous times. I didn’t even know it existed.
You know whats funny, I can't remember if I rode it back in 80s or not during family trips. But I know I didn't ride it in the 90s as I missed it before it closed.
 

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