The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

mickEblu

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My 3.5 year old son just asked me to put on Pinocchio for him. He’s never seen the movie but I guess he was curious between the Pinocchio scene from Fantasmic and a Jimminy Cricket Jim Shore piece I have displayed. In an era where all animation is big, bright and fast paced I’m amazed he sat through the entire slow 25 minute opening credits ans beginning of the movie at Gepetto’s house. The classics live on!
 

Disney Irish

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My 3.5 year old son just asked me to put on Pinocchio for him. He’s never seen the movie but I guess he was curious between the Pinocchio scene from Fantasmic and a Jimminy Cricket Jim Shore piece I have displayed. In an era where all animation is big, bright and fast paced I’m amazed he sat through the entire slow 25 minute opening scene at Gepetto’s house. The classics live on!

Have you never taken the boy on Pinocchio at DL? If not I'm disappointed in you....
 

mickEblu

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Well if he starts talking about the wanting to go on the ride after watching the movie then you know.

Nah I know my boy. It has nothing to do with the ride. But he is starting to come to the conclusion that every movie has a ride, land or meet and greet characters at Disneyland. He also now believes that anything he sees in movies can be had as a toy. He literally points at something in the movie and says “I want that one.”

Disney wins.

The other day he told me he wanted to go to Sugar Rush. I mean why not, Cars Land exists right?
 

Disney Irish

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Nah I know my boy. It has nothing to do with the ride. But he is starting to come to the conclusion that every movie has a ride, land or meet and greet characters at Disneyland. He also now believes that anything he sees in movies can be had as a toy. He literally points at something in the movie and says “I want that one.”

Disney wins.

The other day he told me he wanted to go to Sugar Rush. I mean why not, Cars Land exists right?
They missed an opportunity to upgrade Autopia and turn it into a real life version of Sugar Rush.
 

mickEblu

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They missed an opportunity to upgrade Autopia and turn it into a real life version of Sugar Rush.

I think a fully flushed out Sugar Rush ride would be great (aka not a screen/ simulator ride primarily) but not sure I’d want it where Autopia is. That would mean they would have to get rid of all those trees. Also not sure how it would look next to the Matterhorn/ lagoon and TL
 

Rich T

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I think a fully flushed out Sugar Rush ride would be great (aka not a screen/ simulator ride primarily) but not sure I’d want it where Autopia is. That would mean they would have to get rid of all those trees. Also not sure how it would look next to the Matterhorn/ lagoon and TL
It would look freaking atrocious. Let's not build an attraction that's intentionally designed to look like a tacky and awful clone of Mario Kart--Which is exactly what Sugar Rush is intended to be in the movie. In fact, let's not build attractions based on things that are parodies. Especially when Universal is building a ride based on the original thing that's being parodied.
 

Disney Irish

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I think a fully flushed out Sugar Rush ride would be great (aka not a screen/ simulator ride primarily) but not sure I’d want it where Autopia is. That would mean they would have to get rid of all those trees. Also not sure how it would look next to the Matterhorn/ lagoon and TL
Why would they have to get rid of the trees? They just need to decorate them as candy trees from the movie/game.
 

SuddenStorm

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Respectfully disagree. I see your point, and it's a more clever approach than (I'm sure) anything Disney will actually come up with... But Marvel does not belong in Tomorrowland. The whole Superhero genre is fantasy (most of it if we're including it all in one E.U.) It's not about the future of humankind, it's about nerdy (in a good way) wish-fulfillment daydreams about being the one person who can save everyone. In Superhero stories, ordinary people are mere background--just things for the smug, smart-mouthed heroes to save. Real-life heroes are portrayed as incapable of dealing with the threats. That's not what Tomorrowland should be about. It should be about all of us. It should be about real heroes. It should be about looking forward optimistically and not retreating into impossible fantasies. Marvel should have its own realm for that, and it should stay there.

I agree, you raise very valid points. I think I've basically given up on Disney embracing the ideals of the lands Walt created- projects like Pandora and Pixar Pier give the impression that Imagineering is basically incapable of creating quality attractions from scratch that last for generations like the Imagineers of old. By tying new Tomorrowland attractions to pre existing elements of the Marvel universe, my hope would be that it helps give the Imagineers focus to create a more cohesive experience, as well as getting them a higher budget than they may otherwise have.

Disney has had elements of fantasy inside Tomorrowland from the beginning- from the original 20,000 Leagues exhibit to the Submarine Voyage to Star Tours. Whether these attractions fit Tomorrowland's theme is definitely up for debate- but we're living in a world where Galaxy's Edge is seen as a good fit for Disneyland so I get the impression that overall, Disney and the public doesn't care about what Walt had envisioned for his park.
 

mickEblu

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Why would they have to get rid of the trees? They just need to decorate them as candy trees from the movie/game.

Ya I thought about that. Just not sure it work or that would be the route they take. And it still doesn’t solve the problem of what it would look like next to the Matterhorn/ lagoon and TL.
 

brb1006

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Disney Irish

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Ya I thought about that. Just not sure it work or that would be the route they take. And it still doesn’t solve the problem of what it would look like next to the Matterhorn/ lagoon and TL.

Well a couple thing might make it work, now I say this stuff knowing it'll never happen.

  1. Add the Tron Coaster replacing Innoventions where it goes over the car track.
  2. Cut the car track in half to reclaim some of the space for FL expansion.
  3. Add a buffer of trees between the track and Matterhorn, layered so trees looking in from Matterhorn look normal and from track look like candy trees.
So with Tron going overhead and the candy forest all around the track it'll look like a Disney video game world in that corner of TL. And with trees covering the track it'll just look like a wooded forest against the lagoon.
 

Rich T

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I don't see it any different than the rumors of adding Tron Coaster.
Sugar Rush--besides being a parody of an actual game that Universal is turning into a major ride--isn't futuristic at all. Well, I guess it could be if it started in a futuristic track setting and traveled through different themes... but I still don't like the idea of Disney building a ride that's a parody of an original thing instead of an original thing itself. And a video game based ride in a non-video game land should be an indoor attraction... at least mostly indoors (looking at you, Tron).
 

Disney Irish

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Sugar Rush--besides being a parody of an actual game that Universal is turning into a major ride--isn't futuristic at all. Well, I guess it could be if it started in a futuristic track setting and traveled through different themes... but I still don't like the idea of Disney building a ride that's a parody of an original thing instead of an original thing itself. And a video game based ride in a non-video game land should be an indoor attraction... at least mostly indoors (looking at you, Tron).

My idea is basically turning the east side of TL into a video game mini-land. Where you have Tron replacing Innoventions and you have Sugar Rush (or some other Disney racing style game) replacing Autopia. You could even have the cars painted and styled after Disney characters.

Sugar Rush itself is not a parody of Mario Kart, although there are some similarities in the track shown. It was actually inspired by many of the racing games of the 90s including F-Zero, Sonic & Sega All Stars, Outrun, Cruisin' USA, and yes Mario Kart. So its not Mario Kart alone. And even if it was so what, Universal doesn't hold the patent on all things video game. So why not compete and build one too, but Disney style.

And I wouldn't mind if it was indoors, have Tron and a Disney "racing" ride take over the whole east side in one large show building.

Anyways, it'll never happen so no reason getting our hackles raised over nothing. I just think it was a missed opportunity, something they could have done instead of that silly Honda thing they did.
 

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