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The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

Figments Friend

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And hey, you’re Patriots are playing in the SB today, must be heaven in earth.

Thanks.
I am not much of a sports fan, but it IS cool to have the ‘home team’ be the center of attention today.

The REAL game day action however will be ‘The Puppy Bowl’!
😁


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co10064

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The past two days we visited DLR for the first time in 10 years. (We’re big WDW people/AP.)



Thought I’d share a few tidbits from the trip. I realize none of these thoughts are novel.

  • Security and entrance at DLR remains awful compared to WDW.
  • Why are the bathrooms so tiny compared to WDW? Every single bathroom had a line!
  • The Pixar Pier retheme felt entirely unnecessary and very Six Flags esque. Really wish they had leaned in more to the Victorian theming of 2.0. Splitting Paradise Pier into two lands adds to the mess. If they were dead set on Pixar Pier, they should’ve kept it going all the way around the bay.
  • San Fransokyo wasn’t crazy offensive to me, even though I dislike BH6. I would’ve still put that money into plussing up or rethemeing PGP though.
  • Despite having just come out of refurb, Incredicoaster was really struggling. It was down at least a third (if not half) of the day on Saturday, and when it was open, it was only running one side of the load platform. The ride is a lot rougher than I remember, and the audio was hard to hear.
  • Mission Breakout was the one retheme WDI has really knocked out of the park. I could see bits of Joe Rhode in it. It was a highlight of our trip. Unfortunately, the right shaft was closed all weekend, but maybe that was for planned maintenance?
  • Soarin’ Over California remains the superior version.
  • Web Slingers was a pleasant surprise for our group as was Avenger’s Campus as whole. If the land hadn’t opened in phases, I’m sure it would be received much better.
  • While it’s no Splash, the pacing for TBA works a lot better at DLP than MK. Ironically, that’s what made MK’s Splash the better version. Now it’s reversed.
  • If I was in charge of future projects for the resort, I’d focus on getting a thrill E (not a simulator) into DLP (probably as part of redoing TL). A coaster not being included in Galaxy’s Edge was a big miss. I would’ve added a ride of that nature before I added MMRR. The park didn’t really need another dark ride.
  • I think DCA’s additions will complement the park well. The park really needs more capacity. I would have placed Avatar in the Simba lot and added the Monsters Inc. Door Coaster to create a new Monstropolis land. Losing the Monsters Inc. dark ride will certainly hurt the park (though I think the upcoming attractions will be a net positive).
 
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Disney Analyst

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Its clear she's not looking to get her employment back. But really she put herself above the role and that is what lead to her "dismissal", had she just left it alone and not even tried to address it (especially while in character) in a round about way she'd likely still be there as another character.

I think all the actors approved for that role are currently "laid off". The other characters that Evil Queen actors played were already seasonal. Now the Evil Queen joins the roster of Halloween characters only, if we are lucky.

She lost her job for speaking out in character, for sure, but the role is pretty much gone at this point anyway.

More entertainment cutbacks, which is frankly the shame of Disneyland compared to the rest of the Disney parks globally.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I think all the actors approved for that role are currently "laid off". The other characters that Evil Queen actors played were already seasonal. Now the Evil Queen joins the roster of Halloween characters only, if we are lucky.

She lost her job for speaking out in character, for sure, but the role is pretty much gone at this point anyway.

More entertainment cutbacks, which is frankly the shame of Disneyland compared to the rest of the Disney parks globally.
Do we know that her only roles were either EQ or seasonal? If she really is as good as it had seemed you'd think she'd be in more roles than just that.

Anyways the point was had she just kept quiet she'd probably still be employed. Characters come and go in the Parks, so this isn't new, even if disappointing sometimes. So really this is about an actor who put themself above the role, which isn't going to get her much work in the future (Hollywood isn't know for casting such actors especially unknowns), especially not after this interview. Hope she has another career in mind, wish her luck though.
 

Disney Analyst

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Do we know that her only roles were either EQ or seasonal? If she really is as good as it had seemed you'd think she'd be in more roles than just that.

Anyways the point was had she just kept quiet she'd probably still be employed. Characters come and go in the Parks, so this isn't new, even if disappointing sometimes. So really this is about an actor who put themself above the role, which isn't going to get her much work in the future (Hollywood isn't know for casting such actors especially unknowns), especially not after this interview. Hope she has another career in mind, wish her luck though.

From what I've seen of the track, Evil Queen's would also do Maleficent (seasonal), Evil Step Mother (seasonal), and Agatha at Ooogie Boogie (seasonal).

The only role that's full time was Evil Queen (from my awareness), for actors approved in that track.
 

wdrive

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Do we know that her only roles were either EQ or seasonal? If she really is as good as it had seemed you'd think she'd be in more roles than just that.

Anyways the point was had she just kept quiet she'd probably still be employed. Characters come and go in the Parks, so this isn't new, even if disappointing sometimes. So really this is about an actor who put themself above the role, which isn't going to get her much work in the future (Hollywood isn't know for casting such actors especially unknowns), especially not after this interview. Hope she has another career in mind, wish her luck though.

Yes, she did Evil Queen who was a regular character. Also Maleficent, Lady Tremaine and Agatha Harkness who are all seasonal.

She didn’t keep quiet because she would have had 0 hours. While she wouldn’t have been fired as such she’d only have worked over the Halloween season had she chosen to.

So not fired but also not hired for 10.5 months of the year.
 
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wdrive

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From what I've seen of the track, Evil Queen's would also do Maleficent (seasonal), Evil Step Mother (seasonal), and Agatha at Ooogie Boogie (seasonal).

The only role that's full time was Evil Queen (from my awareness), for actors approved in that track.

It’s not necessarily a set track. Some performers only did the Evil Queen. There was also an Evil Queen and Cruella performer who was let go despite Cruella still going out.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yes, she did Evil Queen who was a regular character. Also Maleficent, Lady Tremaine and Agatha Harkness who are all seasonal.

She didn’t keep quiet because she would have had 0 hours. While she wouldn’t have been fired as such she’d only have worked over the Halloween season had she chosen to.

So not fired but also not hired for 10.5 months of the year.
It’s not like she couldn’t have gone for other roles. And it’s not like someone stopped her in the street outside of the Park and asked her questions. So she shot herself in the foot by speaking out while in role. It makes her standout in the wrong ways. Hiring mangers and casting directors (assuming she wants roles in Hollywood) aren’t going to want to bring on someone who is going to go against rules set out for the job, ie makes her untrustworthy as an employee. So I wish her luck, but my guess is it’ll be a long hard road as an actor that she just made longer and harder for herself.
 

wdrive

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It’s not like she couldn’t have gone for other roles. And it’s not like someone stopped her in the street outside of the Park and asked her questions. So she shot herself in the foot by speaking out while in role. It makes her standout in the wrong ways. Hiring mangers and casting directors (assuming she wants roles in Hollywood) aren’t going to want to bring on someone who is going to go against rules set out for the job, ie makes her untrustworthy as an employee. So I wish her luck, but my guess is it’ll be a long hard road as an actor that she just made longer and harder for herself.

What other roles would you suggest? And it’s not like the performer can go to Disney and ask for a role, it works the other way around.

She knew she was on her way out when she spoke out, otherwise she wouldn’t have I presume.

The interviews she’s had after are up to her, I’m not defending or knocking her for that.
 

Disney Irish

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What other roles would you suggest? And it’s not like the performer can go to Disney and ask for a role, it works the other way around.

She knew she was on her way out when she spoke out, otherwise she wouldn’t have I presume.

The interviews she’s had after are up to her, I’m not defending or knocking her for that.
Disney Parks have open casting calls do they not? Could she not have auditioned for other roles? For example what about parades and such, wouldn’t there be opening for roles in parades for face characters? For example the Christmas parades were being cast at the time when this all happened, why couldn't she audition for one of those roles? And what about the recent open auditions for the new Bluey show at FL Theater? That was held during the time she would have known she was winding down her other role as EQ, couldn't she have auditioned for one of those roles? Or is all that beneath her?

Basically it seemed there would have been opportunity for her to remain had she not broken role. She cost herself her own job needlessly, and again that isn't going to look good for any future employer.
 

wdrive

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Disney Parks have open casting calls do they not? Could she not have auditioned for other roles? For example what about parades and such, wouldn’t there be opening for roles in parades for face characters? For example the Christmas parades were being cast at the time when this all happened, why couldn't she audition for one of those roles? And what about the recent open auditions for the new Bluey show at FL Theater? That was held during the time she would have known she was winding down her other role as EQ, couldn't she have auditioned for one of those roles? Or is all that beneath her?

Basically it seemed there would have been opportunity for her to remain had she not broken role. She cost herself her own job needlessly, and again that isn't going to look good for any future employer.

Yes they have open casting calls for people who don’t already work there.

Again what other role could she have done? A parade role is a separate job at Disneyland. And maybe she can’t dance? You might as well say she could have applied to sell hotdogs or to work in the reservation center.

And the other Evil Queen performers who were let go? I guess they could have just gone to be Cinderella in the parade too?

You really just keep proving to me you don’t know what you’re taking about. I remember you telling me the Evil Queen character would still be about in November.
 
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Disney Irish

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Yes they have open casting calls for people who don’t already work there.

Again what other role could she have done? A parade role is a separate job at Disneyland. And maybe she can’t dance? You might as well say she could have applied to sell hotdogs or to work in the reservation center.

You really just keep proving to me you don’t know what you’re taking about. I remember you telling me the Evil Queen character would still be about in November.
Do you know for a fact she couldn't have gotten any other role?

I have no inside information, never claimed I did. And yeah maybe I was wrong about EQ sticking around, it happens we're all wrong at some point. But I find it very hard to believe she couldn't find another role within Entertainment. But maybe she is such a unique CM that she couldn't have any other role but the ones she was already assigned to. Or more likely she chose not to go for any other role.
 

wdrive

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Do you know for a fact she couldn't have gotten any other role?

I have no inside information, never claimed I did. And yeah maybe I was wrong about EQ sticking around, it happens we're all wrong at some point. But I find it very hard to believe she couldn't find another role within Entertainment. But maybe she is such a unique CM that she couldn't have any other role but the ones she was already assigned to. Or more likely she chose not to go for any other role.

I know a lot more about how it works than you do.

You think they would have even given her another role anywhere at Disney?

And the other Evil Queen performers who were let go?
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I know a lot more about how it works than you do.

You think they would have even given her another role anywhere at Disney?

And the other Evil Queen performers who were let go?
So then you don’t know if there were other roles for her or not, got it.

I’m sorry but I refuse to believe that Disney wouldn’t have used an otherwise eligible CM in another role just because they were moving that CMs current role to being seasonal.

So yes I think if there was an opening, and she auditioned, and hadn’t opened her mouth while in role, she likely would have been given another opportunity.

Also we’re talking about this specific CM not others that played that role. For all we know the others have since found other roles with the Parks to play and she was the only one that wasn’t offered another role. Have any of the others spoken out? Are they saying they haven’t found other roles within the Parks and that Disney has otherwise fired them too?
 

wdrive

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So then you don’t know if there were other roles for her or not, got it.

I’m sorry but I refuse to believe that Disney wouldn’t have used an otherwise eligible CM in another role just because they were moving that CMs current role to being seasonal.

So yes I think if there was an opening, and she auditioned, and hadn’t opened her mouth while in role, she likely would have been given another opportunity.

Also we’re talking about this specific CM not others that played that role. For all we know the others have since found other roles with the Parks to play and she was the only one that wasn’t offered another role. Have any of the others spoken out? Are they saying they haven’t found other roles within the Parks and that Disney has otherwise fired them too?


Then sadly you don’t know much about how the modern day Walt Disney Company operates. I truly wish they cared about their cast members as much as you seem to think they do.

The others haven’t found roles within the park. They were let go as I’ve said three times now but you chose to ignore to fit your own narrative.
 

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