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The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

coffeefan

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Not to open a can of worms, but if Josh was behind the changes to SW:GE I wonder if he has other changes planned. If he's as plugged in as it seems, he must know fan reaction is mixed on TBA and on the Hyperion, HL, TL, and PP. It would be interesting if he announces some enhancements or changes to TBA.
 

PiratesMansion

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Wikipedia makes it sound like he was only actually president of Disneyland for 2018 and half of 2019, in which case it seems clear to me there's very little that he can really be blamed for. At worst, he was charged with carrying out sub-optimal visions put forward by other people.

For me, there is a clear demarcation line at the parks, and I would put it not at D'Amaro's tenure but in 2016, when the effects of Chapek really began to be felt. D'Amaro really has nothing to do with it from where I'm standing.
 

mickEblu

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Original Poster
Wikipedia makes it sound like he was only actually president of Disneyland for 2018 and half of 2019, in which case it seems clear to me there's very little that he can really be blamed for. At worst, he was charged with carrying out sub-optimal visions put forward by other people.

For me, there is a clear demarcation line at the parks, and I would put it not at D'Amaro's tenure but in 2016, when the effects of Chapek really began to be felt. D'Amaro really has nothing to do with it from where I'm standing.

What about the whole time he was Head of Parks?
 

PiratesMansion

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What about the whole time he was Head of Parks?
I have to be honest and say that I'm not particularly clear on what he was or was not responsible for. If someone does know, I'd be glad to hear about it.

But I imagine that a fair amount of decisions that were attributed to him were likely from the actual heads of each park/resort.

You also have to consider that Iger and Chapek had a very specific and very limited vision of what the parks should/could be, and that it's very easy-at least for me-to imagine things could well have been worse.

Matt Ouimet has left some words on LinkedIn on the subject of Mr. D'Amaro:
I worked with Josh twenty years ago and have watched his career advance from a distance.

Consider this:

Running the parks, resorts and cruise line is an incredibly complex business. But it is tangible and predictable. With rare exception, its business model evolves linearly. It can be organized in geographically logical components that compartmentalize into a manageable structure.

It is very important to recognize that studio business is totally different arena. It requires not only business savvy, nimble responses and vision, but astute relationship skills. It is the latter one that may prove the most challenging and most valuable.

Should Josh be the next CEO his deep understanding of the parks division will free him to focus his attention on the more dynamic lines of business and establish the types of value-added relationships that have helped the company grow in recent times.

Finally, I need to add that no one does this alone and perhaps Josh’s greatest strength is that talented people will want to work for him and so will third-party partners.

I don’t make this case just because I like Josh, I also make it because I would like to see Disney continue to be successful for decades to come.
 

PiratesMansion

Well-Known Member
Another (admittedly truncated) post Ouimet has made about D'Amaro on LinkedIn (full post at link):
Josh D’Amaro is Disney’s new CEO.

He is a good guy and a very talented businessman.

As the years pass he will be judged by both Main Street and Wall Street.[...]

I had drafted something more complicated but this says it in a lot less words:

I believe in Josh but not in the stock.

At the current scale of the company with the challenges noted, expecting significant growth to drive the stock price higher is a fairy tale.

I am certain that Josh will prove to an outstanding leader of the company. His impact may not ever receive the highest of accolades on Wall Street but I am quite certain that with his focus on creativity and quality content he will be happily welcomed on Main Street.

Why is growth the ultimate measure of success? Isn’t enough to keep a great brand, great.

With Josh in charge I am looking forward to watching more great movies, visiting the parks more and cancelling my Wall Street Journal subscription.

Disney is in good hands.
 

coffeefan

Well-Known Member
Not to open a can of worms, but if Josh was behind the changes to SW:GE I wonder if he has other changes planned. If he's as plugged in as it seems, he must know fan reaction is mixed on TBA and on the Hyperion, HL, TL, and PP. It would be interesting if he announces some enhancements or changes to TBA.

Speaking of this, based on Wikipedia, Soarin' Over California first returned to DCA (2019) after being replaced by World (2016) during Josh's tenure as Disneyland president. +1
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I have to be honest and say that I'm not particularly clear on what he was or was not responsible for. If someone does know, I'd be glad to hear about it.

But I imagine that a fair amount of decisions that were attributed to him were likely from the actual heads of each park/resort.

You also have to consider that Iger and Chapek had a very specific and very limited vision of what the parks should/could be, and that it's very easy-at least for me-to imagine things could well have been worse.

Matt Ouimet has left some words on LinkedIn on the subject of Mr. D'Amaro:
I worked with Josh twenty years ago and have watched his career advance from a distance.

Consider this:

Running the parks, resorts and cruise line is an incredibly complex business. But it is tangible and predictable. With rare exception, its business model evolves linearly. It can be organized in geographically logical components that compartmentalize into a manageable structure.

It is very important to recognize that studio business is totally different arena. It requires not only business savvy, nimble responses and vision, but astute relationship skills. It is the latter one that may prove the most challenging and most valuable.

Should Josh be the next CEO his deep understanding of the parks division will free him to focus his attention on the more dynamic lines of business and establish the types of value-added relationships that have helped the company grow in recent times.

Finally, I need to add that no one does this alone and perhaps Josh’s greatest strength is that talented people will want to work for him and so will third-party partners.

I don’t make this case just because I like Josh, I also make it because I would like to see Disney continue to be successful for decades to come.

Yeah it isn’t clear to me how much of the blame/ praise for all the projects through the last decade or so can be attributed to Josh either. I was just wondering if there was any reason you only mentioned his tenure as Disneyland president in the post I replied to.
 

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