The Mandalorian

[DKampy]

Yeah…we don’t want to go there

But PT was in a different time. And I argue PT is only being judged less harshly now because the Disney crap was so atrociously tone deaf and bad…
It correlates on the timeline pretty linear.

History will be written the way it will be written.
Until then

The PT is looked at less harshly because the kids that watched that grew up and for a lot of them that is their Star Wars

my least favorite movie is The Rise of Skywalker…I told my brother that he says it’s my nephews favorite…he has showed them all the other Star Wars movies and their favs is still the ST….with their fav characters being Rey and Kyle Ren…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The PT is looked at less harshly because the kids that watched that grew up and for a lot of them that is their Star Wars

my least favorite movie is The Rise of Skywalker…I told my brother that he says it’s my nephews favorite…he has showed them all the other Star Wars movies and their favs is still the ST….with their fav characters being Rey and Kyle Ren…

Star Wars really created “loads of stuff for kids”…it still was pretty prevalent during the prequels which was at the start of the digital age…

Let’s see how it plays. No need to listen to me on this.

 

[Professortango1]

The PT is looked at less harshly because the kids that watched that grew up and for a lot of them that is their Star Wars

my least favorite movie is The Rise of Skywalker…I told my brother that he says it’s my nephews favorite…he has showed them all the other Star Wars movies and their favs is still the ST….with their fav characters being Rey and Kyle Ren…

I'm an adult and Kylo Ren is one of my favourite characters, despite the third film..

 

[Phroobar]

It's always the Star Wars that you grew up with. Someday there will be kids that look back at Mando, The Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi with fondness. That poor child.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's always the Star Wars that you grew up with. Someday there will be kids that look back at Mando, The Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi with fondness. That poor child.

Probably…

But from a financial standpoint…it’s diminishing returns…

Wonder what George did with that $4,000,000,000

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

All that people need to know is that the ending of Season 2 was completely reversed and Grogu is still with Mando.

I mean, Season 2 was certainly worse than the first season, but to completely undo it between seasons is weird.

I wonder if their original plan was to take Grogu out of the picture for a bit and focus on a different story for the titular character, only to kind of be forced due to Grogu's breakout popularity.

The eventual reunion could have been a big payoff but it ended up just being they spent no onscreen time apart at all. The whole storyline of protecting Grogu and getting him where he needed to be was just dismissed immediately.

 

[Professortango1]

I wonder if their original plan was to take Grogu out of the picture for a bit and focus on a different story for the titular character, only to kind of be forced due to Grogu's breakout popularity.

The eventual reunion could have been a big payoff but it ended up just being they spent no onscreen time apart at all. The whole storyline of protecting Grogu and getting him where he needed to be was just dismissed immediately.

Yeah, it was really disappointing. I knew he'd come back, but I was really excited about Mando doing something else for at least half a season. To immediately have Grogu leave Luke and go back to Mando made the 2nd season feel even more unnecessary than it already did. And then to have the reunion in an episode of another character's show is even stranger. I absolutely loved the first season and Andor was my favourite Star Wars thing to date. I'd love to be surprised by season 3, but after Season 2 and Boba Fett, I'm not too optimistic.

 

[Phroobar]

Probably…

But from a financial standpoint…it’s diminishing returns…

Wonder what George did with that $4,000,000,000

Various charities, film restoration and the new museum.

 

[DKampy]

I wonder if their original plan was to take Grogu out of the picture for a bit and focus on a different story for the titular character, only to kind of be forced due to Grogu's breakout popularity.

The eventual reunion could have been a big payoff but it ended up just being they spent no onscreen time apart at all. The whole storyline of protecting Grogu and getting him where he needed to be was just dismissed immediately.

That’s my feeling… is they might have been planning a Grogu Mando reunion for the season 3 finale… but change their mind…would not be surprised if it was Disney mandate…. Gotta sell that baby Yoda merch

 

[Phroobar]

That’s my feeling… is they might have been planning a Grogu Mando reunion for the season 3 finale… but change their mind…would not be surprised if it was Disney mandate…. Gotta sell that baby Yoda merch

Judging by the amount of baby Yoda stuff sitting in Walmart and Target, Grogu has been seriously played out.

 

[DKampy]

Yeah, it was really disappointing. I knew he'd come back, but I was really excited about Mando doing something else for at least half a season. To immediately have Grogu leave Luke and go back to Mando made the 2nd season feel even more unnecessary than it already did. And then to have the reunion in an episode of another character's show is even stranger. I absolutely loved the first season and Andor was my favourite Star Wars thing to date. I'd love to be surprised by season 3, but after Season 2 and Boba Fett, I'm not too optimistic.

I do like the character of Kylo…I thought it interesting having a villain not always having control of his emotions… I actually like the Last Jedi more than most Star Wars fans…it was a different perspective for a Star Wars movie… but then again I am a Rian Johnson fan… if you wanted the person to follow the Star Wars playbook… then he was the wrong person for the job… but the og films and characters will always be my favorite, cause they were the reason I fell in love with Star Wars

 

[sedati]

Time to start a rewatch of the Mandoverse.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Bringing Grogu back pluses:

1. By visiting Luke's academy, it helps cement the timeframe of The Mandalorian in the minds of more casual fans. Once they see what Luke is up to, they can place the series in the bigger timeline.

2. Grogu levels up!! He completed the sidequest and gained 1,000,000 Mido Points. Now he'll be less of a toddler.

3. Grogu's story isn't really over... who's his parents? Where's his family and planet?

4. Hungry, hungry fan service.

 

[Disney Irish]

Judging by the amount of baby Yoda stuff sitting in Walmart and Target, Grogu has been seriously played out.

Honestly this idea that lack of toy sales equals lack of popularity has been seriously played out.

 

[Disney Irish]

Bringing Grogu back pluses:

1. By visiting Luke's academy, it helps cement the timeframe of The Mandalorian in the minds of more casual fans. Once they see what Luke is up to, they can place the series in the bigger timeline.

2. Grogu levels up!! He completed the sidequest and gained 1,000,000 Mido Points. Now he'll be less of a toddler.

3. Grogu's story isn't really over... who's his parents? Where's his family and planet?

4. Hungry, hungry fan service.

5. Grogu hasn't talked yet, still need to have the big reveal where he calls Mando "Daddy".

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Honestly this idea that lack of toy sales equals lack of popularity has been seriously played out.

How much licensed product sales has Star Wars generated?

Ballpark figure…there’s no exact number…0

 

[Disney Irish]

How much licensed product sales has Star Wars generated?

Ballpark figure…there’s no exact number…0

How much licensed product sales has all of Disney IP generated?

Current generations aren't collectors like the older generations.

 

[G00fyDad]

Bringing Grogu back pluses:

1. By visiting Luke's academy, it helps cement the timeframe of The Mandalorian in the minds of more casual fans. Once they see what Luke is up to, they can place the series in the bigger timeline.

2. Grogu levels up!! He completed the sidequest and gained 1,000,000 Mido Points. Now he'll be less of a toddler.

3. Grogu's story isn't really over... who's his parents? Where's his family and planet?

4. Hungry, hungry fan service.

I've wondered if they will ever tell this information ever since I saw Yaddle in the awful PT. Lucas has said himself that he never even bothered to come up with a backstory to a character that he did not feel would be as popular as Yoda became.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

How much licensed product sales has all of Disney IP generated?

Current generations aren't collectors like the older generations.

With the ease of online shopping and international connectivity…are you sure?

My Star Wars collection used to be based on what Kmart randomly had on the shelf that day…or Six months…because the truck didn’t come that often.

Things have changed to a degree…but if you think they didnt by LFL to sell Star Wars product…whew…then it’s gonna be a long day

 

[Phroobar]

I do like the character of Kylo…I thought it interesting having a villain not always having control of his emotions… I actually like the Last Jedi more than most Star Wars fans…it was a different perspective for a Star Wars movie… but then again I am a Rian Johnson fan… if you wanted the person to follow the Star Wars playbook… then he was the wrong person for the job… but the og films and characters will always be my favorite, cause they were the reason I fell in love with Star Wars

Problem is Kylo is he is not a scary villain. He is more of straw man for the heroin.

Let's compare him to Darth Vader. Vader is strong, powerful, smart, unemotional, people fear him and he is intimidating. Vader is cold and efficient. You never see him without his mask until Luke takes it off. This guy doesn't have a problem with killing his own underlings for failing him. He is driven and wants revenge. He will go to any length to get what he wants. He is villain with teeth and willing to use them on everyone. The hero constantly gets beat by him or at least barely escapes. He is scary.

Kylo was great until he tried to question Poe. Poe starts making fun of him right off the bat. Poe would instantly die if he did that to Vader. Why does he accept snarky comments unchallenged? Kylo has temper tantrums. He makes dumb command decisions. He punishes people for logical questions. He is openly conflicted with the path he wants to take. He keeps taking his mask off destroying any mystery about him. He broods over his choices and hesitates on his actions. Kylo is weak and unsure what he wants. He gets beat way too easy by someone that never held a lightsaber before. In fact, every time he goes against the heroes, he loses. He is an emotional emo man child desperately pretending to be something he isn't. He is unable to commit to any course of action. He isn't powerful and unstoppable. He is a villain without teeth. What good is a hero when the villain is weak and easily stopped?

Vader would have Rey for lunch.