The Imagineering Movie Discussion Thread

PerGron

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[Continued]

#10- Secret Lives of Orangutans
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[Watched on Netflix]

My obligatory nature documentary of the month! This one is narrated by Sir David Attenborough so that alongside the fact orangutans are super interesting species, I had to check it out. Unfortunately, for someone like me who is pretty knowledgeable about animals already, this documentary didn't really provide anything new or super interesting for me. The shots are gorgeous and seeing these animals in their natural habitat where they're very illusive is really interesting, but at the same time it didn't feel all that special as a doc. For people who aren't me though, I would recommend watching this to learn a bit about our most elusive and misunderstood cousins.

#09- Greedy People
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[Watched on VOD]

Greedy People wants to be a Coen Brothers film so bad it almost hurts. The performances are actually pretty solid, especially from Joseph Gordon-Levitt who I was very happy to see here. The movie is effective in being a fun enough mystery that goes off the rails in full Coen Bros. fashion, yet that stylism that they're going for is a bit distracting and I wasn't the biggest fan of the premise overall. That said, I really liked the ending and I'd probably watch the movie again.

#08- Jackpot!
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[Watched on Prime Video]

Card-carrying member of the "I hate Awkwafina" club here, but I didn't really mind her here shockingly enough. She plays against type and I think it works out enough to get through the movie. John Cena is a delight (as per usual) and Simu Liu is also a lot of fun, kind of unfortunate this is the closest thing to a Shang-Chi sequel as we can look forward to though.

The movie isn't anything particularly special, it's pretty generic and the premise isn't even that original. Still, I had fun with it, I thought the performances were solid enough, and it even got a few laughs out of me, so there's that.

#07- Inside the Mind of a Dog
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[Watched on Netflix]

It's a dog documentary. If you like dogs, you'll like it.

#06- Watchmen: Chapter 1
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[Watched on VOD]

I've been waiting a long while for a faithful adaptation of Watchmen and after the Snyder slop and the failed HBO series, I was beginning to think we'd never get it, yet here we are. Chapter 1 is a lot of setup so I don't know that I can put it any higher than this, but Watchmen is an all-time story that I'm happy to see get a solid adaptation. Hopefully the second chapter holds up as well.

#05- Incoming
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[Watched on Netflix]

I really like coming of age movies and I like teen high school party movies like Superbad, so while I wasn't excited for this movie, I knew it would probably at least be kind of alright. I didn't expect it to be as fun and sweet as it is. It's by no means a knock-your-socks-off type movie, it's pretty standard fare for this type of thing, but I had a decently good time with it, even if there is an incredibly cringy sing-along at the end that I'll never escape. It's nothing special, but it was a decently good time.

#04- The Instigators
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[Watched on Apple TV+]

This is the most Boston movie I've seen since The Departed and it doesn't even feature Mark Wahlberg. Matt Damon and Casey Affleck are really solid here and the movie has a ton of fun to it. It's a breezy action-packed comedy with some punchy little moments in it and a really realistic depiction of Boston where even with 20 cops lights on chasing a car, nobody moves over for them. That's commitment.

#03- Cuckoo
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[Watched in theaters]

I went into Cuckoo having had the concept kind of spoiled for me because I already knew about cuckoo birds and figured it out really quickly where the movie was going because of that. Still, Hunter Schafer and Dan Stevens absolutely stole the show here and this movie had some genuinely scary moments and jumpscares that I definitely recommend people check it out.

#02- Alien: Romulus
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[Watched in theaters]

Alien is in my top 10 favorite films of all time with Aliens in the top 25, so I was pretty ready for a new film in the franchise and while I totally get the qualms people are having with it, I really loved this movie. I found it the perfect level of creepy, atmospheric, and fascinating with some characters I found really enjoyable. The acid blood sequence is an all-timer and Andy is one of the best characters in sci-fi in recent memory. Plus, that at the end of the movie really worked for me. I'd definitely recommend this movie even if it isn't as scary or gory as I maybe wanted after seeing Fede Alvarez do Evil Dead (2013).

#01- Didi
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[Watched in theaters]

I don't even have anything to say here, just go see Didi. It's wonderful.


Anyway, we're into September and opening weekend this weekend is Beetlejuice Beetlejuice which is exciting. Honestly September is pretty stacked with ones I wanna see including Transformers One, The Wild Robot, My Old A*s, Wolfs, Megalopolis, and more. Let's hope for a great month!
 

TheOriginalTiki

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I'm a bit mixed on Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, but ultimately really liked it. It's far away the best Burton film since Frankenweenie. That's not even really a question. Everything here feels distinctly vintage, old school Tim Burton. From the production side of things this might be the single most visually impressive thing he's ever done. The returning characters in this one are probably among the best a "legacy sequel" has ever handled them. In particular I love how Lydia and Delia's dynamic has evolved since the first film. Keaton and Ryder are both great, but honestly Catherine O'Hara surprisingly kind of steals the show and for me gets all the biggest laughs. I love how over the top her character is and again it's right in line with how cartoonish Burton's characters used to be. There's a cameo towards the beginning that got a HUGE reaction out of the crowd.

Unfortunately, most of the new characters sort of fall flat for me and there's way too many of them, which is where the story really suffers. I think Jenny Ortega does a decent job and her vibe definitely fits in this world, but her whole storyline literally feels like it belongs in one of the next generation Ghostbusters movies more than a Beetlejuice movie, and is the first plot thing that really didn't need to be there. Justin Theroux as much as I love him in The Leftovers was easily the worst performance here and I think the movie did a sloppy job establishing that him and Lydia were actually in a relationship because when he first appears he's in full on "HR nightmare of a boss who can't keep his hands to himself" mode. I get that his character is supposed to be slimy but it's kind of impossible to buy that Lydia would ever give this dude the time of day (if the point of him is him using his position of power in her work to get close to her, the movie very much didn't feel like exploring that angle...)

Willem Dafoe's character is fun and an awesome design, but once again his whole presence kind of muddies the waters of the plot and doesn't really need to be there. I kind of feel like I might grasp what Burton was going for with her character more on a rewatch. Monica Belluci on the other hand has an AMAZING introduction and by the end of the movie has just kind of faded into the background. She easily could have been the central antagonist moving all the other plot threads instead of introducing literally three other antagonistic characters who all don't really add a ton on their own. The plot being too all over the place and the cast being too crowded is by far the biggest problem I have with the film as a whole. Honestly though, I feel like even in Burton's Golden age he always kind of suffered from bloated plots, so I feel like it's really not that out of character for him. I definitely need to watch it again, there was so much going on that I was struggling to keep up with all the different moving pieces of the plot, and there's also just so much to look at it's very much a theme park ride of a movie where it's impossible to visually catch everything on your first go.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Another thing I forgot to mention is I genuinely love how utterly gross and mean spirited this thing was. It definitely doesn't play it safe as far as trying to go for broad appeal.
 

PerGron

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Regal brought back the Monday mystery movie after being gone a month and this month it was My Old A*s. I love coming of age movies so I want to preface it with that, but genuinely as of just coming out of it, I think this may be my new #1.

Now, there was a tall scrawny white guy with a horribly patchy beard who left right ahead of me and was screaming about how it’s “literally the worst movie he’s ever seen and anyone who liked it should not be allowed to watch movies again” so different sides of the spectrum I guess lol. I assume for most of you it’ll fall between those two opinions.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Regal brought back the Monday mystery movie after being gone a month and this month it was My Old A*s. I love coming of age movies so I want to preface it with that, but genuinely as of just coming out of it, I think this may be my new #1.

Now, there was a tall scrawny white guy with a horribly patchy beard who left right ahead of me and was screaming about how it’s “literally the worst movie he’s ever seen and anyone who liked it should not be allowed to watch movies again” so different sides of the spectrum I guess lol. I assume for most of you it’ll fall between those two opinions.
I just want to know one thing. Does the title actually justify itself within the context of the movie? I HATE how it's used in within the context of the trailer and that's probably the single off-putting thing about it for me haha.
 

PerGron

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I just want to know one thing. Does the title actually justify itself within the context of the movie? I HATE how it's used in within the context of the trailer and that's probably the single off-putting thing about it for me haha.
It’s mostly just a cheeky nickname and plays almost zero role in the movie besides being a silly little name.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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I've got some really complicated feelings about Speak No Evil. First of all, I was lucky enough to avoid the trailers and in fact never once saw a trailer screened in my theater. My theater does this annoying thing were they basically just loop three or four trailers over and over again on every movie, not ever even changing them out for more recent trailers of the same movie (Romulus we only ever got the teaser trailer for example). Right now the rotation is currently Venom 3, Wolfs, and My Old As*. I'll definitely take this set up over AMC's half hour of trailers, but knowing EXACTLY what trailers you're going to get before you even walk in is pretty redundant in its own right.

Anyways, the original Speak No Evil still holds its place as THE single most disturbing horror movie I've ever seen. That film genuinely SHOOK me for weeks afterwards. While I knew there was virtually no chance this remake would hit the same horrific highs as the original, I'm a huge McAvoy fan so I knew I'd need to see it. Indeed, McAvoy is pretty much THE reason to see this movie. He's having such a fun time here but also very much understands the subtle horror of the character he's playing. Scoot McNairy was also PERFECT as the victim husband. I'm always a fan of seeing character actors getting to take on leading roles and I think Scoot also killed it with this. The character's mild mannered timidness just fits his on screen persona perfectly. The daughter being American also helped drive home the "instant connection" factor the audience has to her character. By and large I would say this movie has an even better cast than the original.

While they certainly recreate plenty of scenes, I also enjoy the fact that this is very much not a shot for shot remake. The extra character stuff they threw in works really well to flesh everyone out and makes it feel like a more complete story and not just a brutal morality fable. And that's pretty much where my compliments end. While I respect the fact that the third act is ENTIRELY different from the original, the impact is just so, so much less. The original had a freaking AGONIZING stretch of time in a car where the main characters basically know their fate and are powerless to do anything about it. In this the third act pretty much just turns into a home invasion movie, which I thought was lame. The original ends in the quarry which the remake does feature in one scene but never revisits. Bringing in the chef character as random muscle for the bad guys was seriously groan worthy. I wasn't expecting them to go all the way with the ending of the original, which is genuinely just freaking cold blooded, but I wasn't expecting a happy ending either. I also feel like the tension of what's really going on in the situation drags out a little less in this one, but that very much might be because I'm so familiar with the story to begin with. For example, in the original the line "...because you let me..." is pretty much THE ending statement of the whole story whereas here it pretty much just felt like "Yep, we need to have the line somewhere..."

One element of the ending I do like (spoilers for both this and the original...)
The original ends with the villain characters stoning the couple to death in the quarry after having cut off their daughter's tongue with plans on her being their new "replacement child" already in place. It's a very, VERY nihilistic ending and genuinely chilled me to the bone. I don't like that there were practically no real repercussions for the "good" family given the story leans so heavily into being a fable about standing up for yourself when things seem off in spite of it not being the socially appropriate thing to do. I do appreciate that they did incorporate the "stoning" element of the original's ending into how McAvoy's "son" kills him at the very end. That was a solid callback.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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This is seemingly a really small detail, but it annoyed the hell out of me that they cut out the McAvoy character's line about the father being a "hero" for going around town trying to find the stuffed rabbit at the very beginning. It's subtle as hell, but it's a pretty damn big part of how the character was able to get under his skin and manipulate him. Genuinely see no reason at all why they cut that line out. (Not to mention I feel like the emphasis on the rabbit goes a long way towards justifying THE stupid decision of the movie haha. If you know you know ;) )
 

Mr. Sullivan

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#14- Saving Bikini Bottom: The Sandy Cheeks Movie
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[Watched on Netflix]

Someone at Nickelodeon needs to just let this series go. It's been ongoing way too long and now the animation looks like this. The movie is really boring and really ugly to look at too. Sandy's voice actor is facing the Marge Simpson issue of just growing too old and sounding tired so having her take the lead in this movie was rough to listen to. The live action segments were brutal to sit through and did I mention the animation looks terrible because it does?

I think a Sandy Cheeks movie could work if it actually explored Sandy as the character was established: an intelligent scientific squirrel from Texas, but instead now she comes from a travelling circus driving around in Cousin Eddie's RV? I've been checked out of SpongeBob for a really long time and this absolutely reaffirmed that.​
The show is absolutely not like this if it helps. This movie’s issues are very unique to the Spongebob films which are operating in a very different territory to where the show is currently. The show is putting out some of it’s best episodes since S5, but the problem is the teams guiding the show aren’t bringing the same approach to the movies from story to animation (the 3D animation is unique to the movies and Camp Koral)
 

PerGron

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Hey @PerGron what movie are you most excited for that’s coming out this year? Just wanted to ask you a quick little question
Of what’s left for the year, here my top 10 most anticipated. We’re getting into awards season so it’ll be mostly art house pretentious stuff haha

1. Nosferatu
2. Saturday Night
3. Anora
4. A Real Pain
5. Heretic
6. The Brutalist
7. A Different Man
8. Terrifier 3
9. A Complete Unknown
10. The Piano Lesson
 

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