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Gabe1

Gabe1

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donaldtoo said:
Again, I’m the only person out of 30 people in my firm that doesn’t have a college degree of any kind (not even a crayon one I tried to write up myself 🤪;)
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Thank you.You speak volumes to my point and @MouseDreaming today.

You have a one in thirty chance of being hired by your firm if you lack a college degree. And that only if you were hired decades ago. You can hate on higher education, but the statistics you provide demonstrate that education is valued and valued by your firms hiring practices.

It is clear your firm and partners believe in higher education by hiring only people with college degrees and the lone one is someone closer to retirement age than youth of today. The only person without a college degree is a testament to a good firm that is loyal to their employees they employed decades ago when on the job training and a high school diploma might have been good enough. It is obvious they have changed their hiring practices in current times and the partners and firm values higher education more than you do if they are only hiring 29 employees that hold a higher education college degree.

Texas below is similar to Illinois U.S. licensing boards require that architects hold a professional degree from a NAAB-accredited program, which include bachelor of architecture, master of architecture, and doctor of architecture programs. More education is the norm not less for firms so hiring people lacking any higher education degrees is obsolete.
  1. Complete the Education requirement by obtaining your NAAB accredited professional degree in architecture.
  2. Fulfill the Experience requirement by enrolling in the Intern Development Program (IDP), a structured national training program that requires Interns to acquire experience under the direct supervision of a registered architect. IDP is managed by the National Council of Architectural Registration Boards(NCARB), which allows you to carry your experiences from job to job and state to state.
  3. Complete the Examination, where you must take and pass each of the 7 divisions of the Architectural Registration Exam (ARE).
As was @MouseDreaming point, times change.
 
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Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
donaldtoo said:
Like the ones I posted...?
Or, the same ol’ non-Mickey-shaped, plastic, color-changing, glow carp ones they’ve been ploppin’ in certain drinks that a lot of Guests are willin’ to pay more for, for decades now...or, are they now Mickey-shaped...? :cyclops:;):)
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figmentfan423 said:
Different colored Mickey shaped ones but they don't glow
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donaldtoo said:
Yea, I don’t need Mickey “ice cubes” that bad...!!! ;)
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Like Winnie the Pooh says: I know I don't need a balloon but I'd really like to have a balloon.

My Mickey ice cubes do not glow. :( I still enjoy them. They bring me happiness. My memories of Disney are 100% great. Any reminders at home of all our vacations are of good memories of our love of Disney. It is expensive yes, but it is a place my family has only good memories and good times. Any thing that reinforces our common bond of Disney isn't bad, it is our common bond.
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Public Service: No judgement intended

@MinnieM123

I saw what you paid for our beloved Jack's vaccinations. I genuinely believe our pets are like our children and each pet parent has to believe they are doing what is best for their Pup, so this is for you and others that may want to or not think outside the box on costs of our family Pups and Cats.

3 pets I have had vaccinated at Petco. It is always by a licenced veterinary doctor. Depending on the area Petco brings in Vets for pet vaccines. Suggest price comparisons for exact same requirements and vaccines. Also there isn't an office visit charge and blood pressures and weight etc are all done by the vet.

Pet Vaccination Prices & Packages

Discover the variety of vaccine packages we offer to keep your pet happy and healthy at any life stage.

Healthy Dog/Puppy — $69
  • Distemper/Parvo Combo
  • Bordetella
  • Lepto (optional)
  • Round/Hook Dewormer (included if necessary)
Healthy Dog Plus — $89
  • Distemper/Parvo Combo
  • Bordetella
  • Lepto (optional)
  • Round/Hook Dewormer (included if necessary)
  • Heartworm Test
** $10 Package upgrade includes a 4DX test to check for tick-borne diseases

Healthy Cat/Kitten — $59
  • FVRCP Vaccine
  • FeLv Vaccine**
  • Round/Hook Dewormer (included if necessary)
**Proof of previous FeLv vaccine required. Without proof, FeLv test may be required at an additional charge

Dog & Cat Package Upgrades
  • Rabies (1 or 3 year) — $10
  • Fecal Test — $15
  • Feline Combo Test (FeLv, FIV, HW) — $15
  • Canine Lyme Vaccine — $20
  • Canine Influenza — $25
  • Rattlesnake Vaccine — $25
A La Carte Vaccines & Tests

If you’re unsure of what protection your pet needs you can always stop by and speak to a licensed veterinarian.

  • Rabies (1 or 3 year) — $19 (CT/GA/WI: $25)
  • Distemper/Parvo (5 in 1) Combo — $35
  • Distemper/Parvo with Lepto (6 in 1) Combo — $45
  • Lepto — $35
  • Bordetella — $35
  • Lyme — $35
  • Canine Influenza (H3N2 & H3N8) — $39
  • Rattlesnake — $39
  • Feline 3 in 1 — $35
  • Feline Leukemia — $35
  • Round/Hook Dewormer — $21
  • Canine Heartworm Only — $29
  • Canine 4DX Test for Heartworm & Tick Diseases — $39
  • Feline Combo Test FeLv, FIV, Heartworm — $35
  • Fecal Test — $29
  • Microchip — $19
  • Tapeworm Dewormer — $35
My own opinions. I never gave my pets the lyme. I didn't like how the studies done by horse owners who do research studies and the auto immune deaths. I up in freezing temps didn't do heart worm year round. I yielded to the May to October first hard frost recommendation. If I was in Florida I'd be doing year round. Bordetella is a different thing. If you board your pet of course you must have this, they require it. It is human whooping cough. We vaccinate humans 2x in a lifetime. Animals every stinking year???? I didn't with Walter. He was never boarded so I wasn't mandated to do so. Nor did I opt to do all the various Worm tests beyond his Puppyhood 'cause they all seem to have that at birth. Beyond that you see it when you are cleaning up after them. I always did the 3 year vs the every year cause the rabies in pets is next to none in family pets and the less they endure annually IMO the better. PARVO is the one I will always get for my pets, did and always will. That can be picked up on a simple walk. It is beyond a quick death. If the Pup goes to dog parks or kennels I'd go with the influenza vaccine too. Me, we don't have rattlesnakes here so NO.

In Urban areas Pet care is big business. There are conventions for how the practices can bring more profit to their practices. Human Doc's write a prescription for meds. Vets mark up the prescriptions. Ways to save is to have the Vet write a script for the meds like human docs do. Local Pharmacies will honor the scripts which are more frequently than not human meds too. As high as human meds are Vet practices are higher in costs. It should not be the case. Human Doc's have high malpractice insurance, Vets do not. Pets by law are considered property. The maximum liability in most cases is limited to the Pets replacement value minus the depreciation value. It is cold to us as pet owners but something to keep in mind as we might be over paying for things like vaccines or meds that we can get at a human pharmacy or online with a script that human doctors write for their patients.
 
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Songbird76

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donaldtoo said:
Why is it assumed that everyone that didn’t get a college degree of any kind wanted more than what they already have...?
What about those of us who do plenty fine without a degree, because we paid our dues otherwise...?
What about those of us who couldn’t care less about being a partner with all the responsibiliy and liability that goes along with it...?
There are tons of college-degreed folks out there that couldn’t think their way out of a wet paper sack on their best day...it’s just a piece of paper.
Even when the 2 college-degreed partners were brought on by the original partner at the firm they resented me, because I didn’t go through what they did school-wise to achieve what I did. But, sure enough, as I continued to excel at what I did for them and the money kept flowin’ in the door, that respect level changed and has only increased.
I don’t look at where I am as a “glass ceiling” :rolleyes:, I look at it as I’m very much where I want to be. And, BTW, and again, the partners take very good care of me, because I can also do so many things that none of the younger employees can do, along with most of the things they can do. I busted my butt and take my career very seriously.
Don’t hate me or cut me down just because I didn’t give some college a buttload of money to get where I am, instead of doing it the way I did.
That’s just sad.
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I think nowadays it's more about new people coming into the field...you said they resented you at first because you didn't have that degree. Do you think, had you been starting out then, that they would have hired you? Probably not. They wouldn't have wanted to take the chance on you. That's what I see happening today. Employers want their new employees coming in to have a degree and several years of experience, but not have to pay them more than bare minimum.

Over here, they have an age system...you can't work until you are I think 15 or 16, but at 16, the minimum wage is something like 2.5 euro per hour. It increases as your age does, and with experience. So an 18 year old is way cheaper than a 25 year old. It caps out at 23, but companies want cheap labor. Everyone wants the 16 year olds that they don't have to pay much for, but they want that 16 year old to have studied or be going to school with that as their major. A lot of kids graduate only to find they can't get a job because suddenly they are too old and companies want someone they don't have to pay as much, but they also want someone with knowledge in that field. Companies take on interns because it's free labor, but in order to get the internship, you have to be studing in that field, working towards a degree.

You are a different case, because you already had been working there for a while. But had you applied with them and didn't have that degree, they probably wouldn't have hired you because of that. It's sad, because I think there are a lot of people who have skills and talents that are much more valuable than a piece of paper. There are people who go to school for years who just don't have the natural raw talent that someone else has without the degree. I look at musicians, and some of them have never had any formal training....they far surpass me in musicality, even though I went to school for 5 years to study it. I can sing, but I'm hopeless at theory. (key signatures particularly plague me) I am in awe of people who can just pick up an instrument as though it's intuitive to them. But, they won't be hired by a school to teach music because they don't have the degree that's supposed to prove they know what they are doing. We've become a society that requires that "proof" in the form of a degree and people don't want to take a chance on someone who doesn't have that, no matter how good they are at what they do. That's what I see as the glass ceiling. It's that you can do more than they would give you credit for, but they assume only someone with a degree can do that.
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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Songbird76 said:
I think nowadays it's more about new people coming into the field...you said they resented you at first because you didn't have that degree. Do you think, had you been starting out then, that they would have hired you? Probably not. They wouldn't have wanted to take the chance on you. That's what I see happening today. Employers want their new employees coming in to have a degree and several years of experience, but not have to pay them more than bare minimum.

Over here, they have an age system...you can't work until you are I think 15 or 16, but at 16, the minimum wage is something like 2.5 euro per hour. It increases as your age does, and with experience. So an 18 year old is way cheaper than a 25 year old. It caps out at 23, but companies want cheap labor. Everyone wants the 16 year olds that they don't have to pay much for, but they want that 16 year old to have studied or be going to school with that as their major. A lot of kids graduate only to find they can't get a job because suddenly they are too old and companies want someone they don't have to pay as much, but they also want someone with knowledge in that field. Companies take on interns because it's free labor, but in order to get the internship, you have to be studing in that field, working towards a degree.

You are a different case, because you already had been working there for a while. But had you applied with them and didn't have that degree, they probably wouldn't have hired you because of that. It's sad, because I think there are a lot of people who have skills and talents that are much more valuable than a piece of paper. There are people who go to school for years who just don't have the natural raw talent that someone else has without the degree. I look at musicians, and some of them have never had any formal training....they far surpass me in musicality, even though I went to school for 5 years to study it. I can sing, but I'm hopeless at theory. (key signatures particularly plague me) I am in awe of people who can just pick up an instrument as though it's intuitive to them. But, they won't be hired by a school to teach music because they don't have the degree that's supposed to prove they know what they are doing. We've become a society that requires that "proof" in the form of a degree and people don't want to take a chance on someone who doesn't have that, no matter how good they are at what they do. That's what I see as the glass ceiling. It's that you can do more than they would give you credit for, but they assume only someone with a degree can do that.
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This!

Not to mention that a lot of people go for "Why you dont just find a job going around your town"
Almost every single company now hires via online to save costs ( consolidated and centralized HR recruiters) or use third party recruiters..
The era of "I just walked in and asked for a job.. and got the job" is long gone.
 

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