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MySmallWorldof4

MySmallWorldof4

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21stamps said:
soccer drama update... the kid’s mom just sent this to me.

This was from the Director -
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They admitted the rules!!! This could have been handled so much better. They could have pulled the families aside during the season. I do think some of the other boys were struggling at this level, but not this specific one!
His parents are so sweet, not crazy soccer parents at all.. just confused over the blindside. I’m not sure what they’re going to do.. sounds like she’s going to reach out to the coach. I hope she keeps him on the team, even if T loses some playing time over it. Bottom line, the team shouldn’t have been put in this position. Who knows how large our final roster will be now.

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So is it now up to the parent if he stays on the team?
 
Songbird76

Songbird76

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21stamps said:
I’m heartbroken for one of the players who is being moved down. The mom wants to fight it, with an attorney if necessary, even if it means leaving the club next season.

I don’t know how far she will take it, but I’ve scouring over the bylaws as well..I wish I had more of a way to help her. Her son did not deserve it. I think there was a lot of politics involved, and I think they thought his family wouldn’t push back. They’re so quiet and sweet.. 5 kids, 4 of which play club soccer for that club. I think that makes it all the more heartbreaking. She hasn’t told him yet. It’s just an ugly situation all the way around.. but from what I see, she has a case to fight it, at least demand to be heard by the board.
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Well, you said they had to pay for the whole year, right? So they are paying for something they aren't receiving. I would hope the club will honor the contract. Do they give receipts or a letter that states which season they have been accepted for? If she has proof that he was accepted, it might be considered breach of contract? I hope she wins her case, to whatever extent she decides to fight.
 
Songbird76

Songbird76

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21stamps said:
This is an excerpt from the original email about tryouts, 2 months ago, from the club director..

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This was the team admin’s response to the Mom referencing that email..and how can her son be moved down at this stage..

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So that sounds like another parent had already found that section of the bylaws, and questioned it. There may be more people who are fighting.. we just don’t know who. I’m hoping they can work together. I can’t imagine the director is not aware of their own bylaws.. but he’s been contacted, I’m waiting to see how they respond.

I’m relieved that I’m not dealing with this, but I do not think any of this is ok. I almost hope that we’re missing some wording, somewhere, and that this isn’t as shady as it looks. Either way, T’s teammate of 12 months now, that kid specifically should not have been moved. I can’t even imagine how he will feel. It’s so ugly!! Him and T do every extra training they have..goalkeeper included.. they play so well together, that kid has been with the club for two years now, because he should be..he’s a good player...it just makes me so angry.
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I don't know how you feel about getting involved in it, but...my 2 cents, and this is just me, I'd fight with them. The fact that T kept his current position is great, but it's not fair to those who were promised they would have a spot and then got moved. And with any injustice, it's important to have support from the people who don't have a dog in the fight. It might carry more weight coming from you, since your child is not directly involved with that. And you can also speak to how it will affect those who DID remain on that team. It may not be T this time, but if they do it this time, they can do it next time, and next time it MIGHT be T. Not to mention the fact that you told him he wasn't being watched, it was only for new players...when he finds out that some of his teammates got moved down, he's either got to question whether you lied to him or you didn't know. Fighting this will let him know you weren't lying. And if they are allowed to move kids down, he's going to be nervous at the next try out, even if you tell him that it's not for him...he'll know that's not true. Obviously, it's up to you on how you want to handle it, but I'd fight against the club so you won't be dealing with this yourself next time.
 
Songbird76

Songbird76

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figmentfan423 said:
Not a good sign at all early dismissals are already starting to post. FLORIDA!
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Aww...I'm sorry. That's a bummer...they never close schools here really. I was shocked last year when DS got out early, but that was because most kids are brought by bus, since they don't live in our town. And the bus drivers were refusing to drive once the snow started, so they had to get the kids out before the snow started. That's the only time here I have ever experienced them closing early and DD is 12.
 
Songbird76

Songbird76

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Goofyernmost said:
Speaking of IT. I think that I mentioned having some computer problems, but, I don't think I told you that I decided to install Malewarebytes to see if that would help. So on Saturday I went to the website and attempted to download the "paid" version of the system. It got me through everything but every time I attempted to download it I got an error message. So I e-mailed them telling them that I needed help to install it. On Tuesday, I finally received the reply from a fellow named Adam. After reading my problems and sending me different links that also failed he finally asked to get access to my computer so he could help. I gave it to him and even he could not get it to download. He then asked for my phone number to see if he could walk it through with me. I have one stubborn computer. We eventually had to create another user to even get into safe mode.

To make a long story shorter, the man stayed on the phone with me for 2 1/2 hours, called in a number of associates and the boss to see if anyone could figure out why. It finally after countless attempts and his saying, let's try this, got it to download. He ran the scan and it picked up on 518 threats, eliminated them and I now have a computer that runs like new. It cost me $42.00 for the program, but, I was looking down the barrel of having to buy a new computer. I have nothing but praise for Malwarebytes at this point. BTW, in case anyone is depending on Windows Defense to catch problems, the most they ever found after multiple scans were 3 threats. Adam had the patience of a saint and the worse word he uttered was "darn". I told him that if nothing else I gave him a challenge. He replied that, yes, it was good and he was getting a little bored on the job, but, not anymore! :happy:
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Wow....that's some great customer service!! Is there somewhere online where you can give feedback/write a review? Adam deserves some recognition!
 
Songbird76

Songbird76

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21stamps said:
soccer drama update... the kid’s mom just sent this to me.

This was from the Director -
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They admitted the rules!!! This could have been handled so much better. They could have pulled the families aside during the season. I do think some of the other boys were struggling at this level, but not this specific one!
His parents are so sweet, not crazy soccer parents at all.. just confused over the blindside. I’m not sure what they’re going to do.. sounds like she’s going to reach out to the coach. I hope she keeps him on the team, even if T loses some playing time over it. Bottom line, the team shouldn’t have been put in this position. Who knows how large our final roster will be now.

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What this reads like to me is, "Oh carp....the rules say we can't do that. Cover our tushies and make up an excuse....ok...um...yeah, you're right...it's your CHOICE." It sounds like they were trying to pull a fast one and backpedaled when they got caught. On the one hand, good that the option is now in the parents' hands, but on the other, how can they trust the club after something like this? Maybe he can finish out the season and then go elsewhere.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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Songbird76 said:
I don't know how you feel about getting involved in it, but...my 2 cents, and this is just me, I'd fight with them. The fact that T kept his current position is great, but it's not fair to those who were promised they would have a spot and then got moved. And with any injustice, it's important to have support from the people who don't have a dog in the fight. It might carry more weight coming from you, since your child is not directly involved with that. And you can also speak to how it will affect those who DID remain on that team. It may not be T this time, but if they do it this time, they can do it next time, and next time it MIGHT be T. Not to mention the fact that you told him he wasn't being watched, it was only for new players...when he finds out that some of his teammates got moved down, he's either got to question whether you lied to him or you didn't know. Fighting this will let him know you weren't lying. And if they are allowed to move kids down, he's going to be nervous at the next try out, even if you tell him that it's not for him...he'll know that's not true. Obviously, it's up to you on how you want to handle it, but I'd fight against the club so you won't be dealing with this yourself next time.
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So, here’s my thoughts on it-

First of all, I do think 3 of the boys should be moved down. They have not developed over the season, and they are not the holding their own on the team, their mistakes and inability to grasp the game (at this point in time) must be obvious to their parents, as it is to the players, spectators, and coaches. They show individual skills, they had a good tryout last June, but when you don’t improve over a season, then it’s time to move and hopefully improve your skills and move back up.
I would have been in full agreement if those families were spoken to individually, towards the end of the season, and a move down recommended. That’s part of competitive sports and I’m OK with that.
What I don’t agree with is how this was handled.

As for the other boy; the one who’s Mom I’ve been talking to, I do NOT think he is one of the weakest players, and I don’t understand the decision to move him. Obviously I’m not the coach, but this specific kid was a blindside even to me as an observer. I think he should stay on the team.

It’s the family’s decision now, I hope they choose to stay, but I do hope the other families don’t make the same decision. Again, I would be angry at how it was handled, but I think they know that their son’s shouldn’t really be there.

I hope this doesn’t sound mean, I’m not trying to put that vibe at all. I’m angry at the club because if we end up with p-d off parents who refuse to move, then our team is going to be too big, and all players will be affected. All of this could have been easily avoided!!!
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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StarWarsGirl said:
Glad you were able to get help. I personally have yet to find an antivirus program that I like as of yet. They mostly slow down my computer too much for me to tolerate them. Then again, my parents had one of those ransomware viruses and I was able to get it off. So...

Windows Defender picking up anything would have set off alarm bells for me.
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My money has been with ESET NOD32 for almost a decade.


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Anyway, if your computer is already damaged, there is not much what can be done by installing programs to fix like malwarebytes.
Some trojans are VERY HARD to remove, require hands on to handle multiple reboots, multiple scans, registry edits, tweaks, etc..

Thats why I hate Windows 8+ and above.. they are a nightmare to work deeply to fix .
Windows 10 is mostly now "lol, reinstall, lose everything and call it a day! WHAT A FIX! YOU're WELCOME!"
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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MySmallWorldof4 said:
I am sure you said nothing to insult them.
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oh I didnt. I just gave him my honest information about not having work permit. He perhaps expected someone who could start working right away.

I hope he answers were we can get a compromise.
Aka I work for him from home with minimal pay and minimal hours so he tests me then we could go ahead to do the process of temporal work permit.

Well see. Hence why I fear the bridge burning, aka he might not think I'm viable anymore.
 
Figgy1

Figgy1

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Cesar R M said:
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Chicken
 
Figgy1

Figgy1

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Cesar R M said:
oh I didnt. I just gave him my honest information about not having work permit. He perhaps expected someone who could start working right away.

I hope he answers were we can get a compromise.
Aka I work for him from home with minimal pay and minimal hours so he tests me then we could go ahead to do the process of temporal work permit.

Well see. Hence why I fear the bridge burning, aka he might not think I'm viable anymore.
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Much pixie dust
 

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