The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
What about people who are not allowed to have a credit card? What do they do with that??

Yep the un-answered questions. Will they make it clear when making reservations that they are a cashless society? Its been years but we use to travel with travelers checks. We'd pay or cash $100 at a time and pay cash or travelers check. I'd say I still pay at least 50% cash in parks if not more, I really keep track of what I have allotted better when it is in my wallet vs chip n it. I do wonder what they will do when the Disney band or chip system goes down if they themselves eliminate the ability for cash at restaurants or carts. Slippery slope if they eliminate the extreme back up plan. Been there when band and credit were not accepted for hours. Then what, no merchandise, food or beverages? I guess they could have you pre purchase Disney Gift Cards in advance of your trip but how many hoops are guests willing to go through.
 

donaldtoo

Well-Known Member
Hee hee . . . even those of us who wore a veil (believe me, even a dawg can look pretty in a veil !! :joyfull: ) don't consider ourselves owned by anyone. ;) It is still a partnership. For me, I enjoy the old traditions (white dress, veil) and went with them, but I'm still the crazy gal I always was! :D

Well said!!!!!
Hahaaa...!!!
Yep, that is my lovely DWifey!
She wanted, and got all those things too, and she is anything but an "owned" shrinking violet...quite the opposite, indeed...!!!
We had a very traditional wedding (for our part of the country at the time, anyway) and wouldn't trade any of it!!! White dress, veil, garter, 2 cakes, country band, etc., etc., etc.
I asked her mother's permission to marry her, as her father was long out of the picture and incommunicado at the time. Her mother very much appreciated the respect!!!
DWifey wanted me to help pick out the China, silver, crystal, and everyday ware, and I did, and we had a lot of fun doing so and I actually picked our crystal...!!!
What she asked me to do I did dutifully, but never butted myself in...as far as I was concerned it was HER day (although, I knew it was mine too, as she is the most beautiful woman on the planet!!!!!!!).

Bottom line, we all agree upon and do what's right for our own relationships!
Whatever works..!!!!!!!
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
So, their Plan B is cash, if the electronics go down. Okaaayyy . . . yet, their message to guests is no cash--bring your Magic Band, credit or debit cards, or gift cards. Would prefer a more realistic message such as: Although WDW is moving toward electronic transactions at all outlets in the parks and hotels, it is suggested that guests still bring some cash, in the event that our electronic sales systems temporarily malfunction.

Yah, I know . . . :facepalm::banghead:


Yah, I know . . . :facepalm::banghead:

This portion of your post says it all. Disney knows in their heart that their tech, their system tends to crash, so moving forward to a cashless society is more a *pixie dust* wing and a prayer approach to saving on CM time and expense. If the system fails in the long run it will only inconvenience the guest not the corporation. Annoying. Hopefully the test at AKL will be as successful as the MK cabanas or the pay to ride internal bus between parks over attempting to fix their internal transportation system much like the $25 Minnie Bus Lyft pay to ride introduced.

Disney lowered the price of the pay for Extra Magical Hours/Pay for what resort guests were afforded previously with hopes that that price point will make guests comfortable with paying for EMH...hope that falls flat on their faces too once the day one (for the bloggers) Hit that sold out is done and over. Me, $100 a day to enter the MK per family member is kinda at its tipping point to start with, paying an addition $120+ for 3 more hours per family member....for what once was a resort guest privilege....well ouch! It is easier for those who travel as a single in some circumstances but a family of 3 or 4 doubling the cost of the MK for a day is mind-boggling. And I am a Disney addicted. Can't imagine families just beginning to look at WDW vacations and seeing 2 years of car payments. Oy.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Hee hee . . . even those of us who wore a veil (believe me, even a dawg can look pretty in a veil !! :joyfull: ) don't consider ourselves owned by anyone. ;) It is still a partnership. For me, I enjoy the old traditions (white dress, veil) and went with them, but I'm still the crazy gal I always was! :D

I to lean to @StarWarsGirl way of thinking when I look at my Daughter or my Son ever consider this custom of uncovering a woman or with the presentation of a woman to man tradition in a wedding ceremony. I look at woman covered on my DD University campus only eyes peeking out. Unmarried, covered. I looked at Nuns growing up in school only the rounds of their face uncovered, draped in black from head to toe. White gloves covering their hands.

It isn't balanced where a man is presented to a woman in any way, it is lopsided IMO. Am I missing something? I fail to see why covering a woman until presented to a man is acceptable or why any father would want this for their daughter other than control, woman strive so hard for equal rights and equal pay and respect yet willing would cover herself to a man for marriage? Benefits who? Why not cover both man and woman if that is important?

If I am missing something in covering a woman in a marriage ceremony I am all ears to why covering her face until her Daddy or whoever she is presented by uncovers her. I am open to why this is helpful to womanhood and their role in marriage. Me it is a very mixed message. We are equal only after we are veiled and presented? If it isn't sexist why is the man not covered?

I do get why some Dads and husbands to be enjoy the custom. Dads they can believe they have control over who their DD will be uncovered before, Husbands too can feel manly that a bride is unveiled before them by t choice of the bride. Willing to presented to man, still I struggled 35 years ago why my Mom insisted I be covered until my Dad presented me to a man? Ewe. Ewe. Ewe. 35 years ago I didn't grasp the desire of public display, custom to be marched down by a man and presented especially in the new millennium with the struggles of daughters and woman to be taken seriously as equals, presented covered doesn't scream equal. I've yet to hear why this custom is a plus or a benefit for woman entering a marriage. I'm uncomfortable with Nuns being covered for some unknown custom devised by men and equally appalled by woman being covered worldwide. I fail and struggle to see why woman in a free society want to be covered anymore than any woman supporting woman being covered anywhere worldwide. It haunts me to watch these woman on my DD University campus who have little choice given their customs of their societies, only their eyeballs exposed and sometimes screened. I don't find it pretty, I find it creepy everytime I pass them veiled.....Granted some brides here in the USA are only peeking through netting but to me it is the same principle. My take, a custom that should be forgotten.
 

Figgy1

Premium Member
Hopefully not, What he gave me seems to be helping. Although I had a case of sticker shock. It's that Spriva drug you see advertised. Yeah, $400 if you haven't hit a deductible. Thank goodness for smartphones and the internet and coupons. I told my parents I never want to hear another word about smartphones and data plans not being worth it even again.
Glad you're feeling better but 400 OUCH! As much as I like you glad not to be chit chatting at 4am stay in bed and GWS xoxo
 

Songbird76

Well-Known Member
Well, my company has decided that it is time to move me on from my position. And not just from my position, but from the department. I essentially told my boss that IT project management was not an ideal career path for me. He said okay, he understood, it happens more than he would care to admit where he brings in someone and they say that, but they've thought the quality of my work is so high that they want to keep me in the company, but not in IT (thank goodness, so much of this is over my head). So next week we'll have a meeting with HR to discuss what openings are available in the company and where I would fit. Meanwhile, I'm just over here being anxious because I thought I could just stay in my current position until the right position came up and they're like, "Yeah, no, time to move on!" And I'm also looking at other options, just in case (which my boss said if I did take that path, they would support me and give me high recommendations)

So the car purchase will definitely not happen until end of next month or end of March when I know what's going on with work. Ugh! Excited, but, oh my, I'm anxious.
Well, it's good that they want to keep you on. I hope they can find something that suits you so you don't have to look for something new.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Hopefully not, What he gave me seems to be helping. Although I had a case of sticker shock. It's that Spriva drug you see advertised. Yeah, $400 if you haven't hit a deductible. Thank goodness for smartphones and the internet and coupons. I told my parents I never want to hear another word about smartphones and data plans not being worth it even again.

I hope this really helps you. Just curious--with your coupons, etc., how much did it save you off the sticker price? Might be some useful information for people looking for pricing on medications. Another reason why I like chit chat--we all learn from each other here.
 

Songbird76

Well-Known Member
Sympathy likes. Stay safe my friends
We made it. It died down in the afternoon, but they said on the news today that trains are still not running because they are still repairing tracks and cleaning up the 45 trees that blew across tracks across the country. People traveling by train yesterday got stuck wherever they were.
DH asked for 1.5 hour off to come pick up the kids from school so they didn't have to bike in the wind. His boss gave him a hard time about it...how was he going to get all his work done, blah blah blah. So now he has to work on Sunday to make up for it. I swear, this one boss has NO empathy. He has no kids, so he just doesn't get how important that is to a person. Oh well....at least DH got to leave early.
And then DD decided she wanted to bike home anyway...it wasn't too bad by that time. But she got to one part where she has to go from the street to a narrow bike path and one of DS's bullies happened to be walking on that narrow bike path and saw her coming and stood across the bike path with his arms out and his feet wide, and she tried to stop but didn't have time so she hit him. She felt really bad and stopped to ask him if he was ok, and he swore at her. Well, if THAT doesn't tell you what kind of person he is, and what kind of person my DD is...I mean REALLY, what did he expect? He jumps in front of her bike and blocks her way....it's his own dang fault. I told DH I REALLY hope he went home and tattled to his mommy and we get a phone call demanding to know why our kid ran over him with her bike. I'd LOVE to give her an earful.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Yep the un-answered questions. Will they make it clear when making reservations that they are a cashless society? Its been years but we use to travel with travelers checks. We'd pay or cash $100 at a time and pay cash or travelers check. I'd say I still pay at least 50% cash in parks if not more, I really keep track of what I have allotted better when it is in my wallet vs chip n it. I do wonder what they will do when the Disney band or chip system goes down if they themselves eliminate the ability for cash at restaurants or carts. Slippery slope if they eliminate the extreme back up plan. Been there when band and credit were not accepted for hours. Then what, no merchandise, food or beverages? I guess they could have you pre purchase Disney Gift Cards in advance of your trip but how many hoops are guests willing to go through.

Yah, it's crazy. Oh, as a side note--I think read somewhere that people with older (unused AMEX) traveler's checks can also convert those over to AMEX gift cards. (Check with AMEX first online or via phone, on that. I vaguely recall hearing that banks that issued travelers checks, could do the card exchange at the bank.) I do know that travelers checks have no expiration, and supposedly are good forever. I used them a lot years ago, anytime I traveled.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
I to lean to @StarWarsGirl way of thinking when I look at my Daughter or my Son ever consider this custom of uncovering a woman or with the presentation of a woman to man tradition in a wedding ceremony. I look at woman covered on my DD University campus only eyes peeking out. Unmarried, covered. I looked at Nuns growing up in school only the rounds of their face uncovered, draped in black from head to toe. White gloves covering their hands.

It isn't balanced where a man is presented to a woman in any way, it is lopsided IMO. Am I missing something? I fail to see why covering a woman until presented to a man is acceptable or why any father would want this for their daughter other than control, woman strive so hard for equal rights and equal pay and respect yet willing would cover herself to a man for marriage? Benefits who? Why not cover both man and woman if that is important?

If I am missing something in covering a woman in a marriage ceremony I am all ears to why covering her face until her Daddy or whoever she is presented by uncovers her. I am open to why this is helpful to womanhood and their role in marriage. Me it is a very mixed message. We are equal only after we are veiled and presented? If it isn't sexist why is the man not covered?

I do get why some Dads and husbands to be enjoy the custom. Dads they can believe they have control over who their DD will be uncovered before, Husbands too can feel manly that a bride is unveiled before them by t choice of the bride. Willing to presented to man, still I struggled 35 years ago why my Mom insisted I be covered until my Dad presented me to a man? Ewe. Ewe. Ewe. 35 years ago I didn't grasp the desire of public display, custom to be marched down by a man and presented especially in the new millennium with the struggles of daughters and woman to be taken seriously as equals, presented covered doesn't scream equal. I've yet to hear why this custom is a plus or a benefit for woman entering a marriage. I'm uncomfortable with Nuns being covered for some unknown custom devised by men and equally appalled by woman being covered worldwide. I fail and struggle to see why woman in a free society want to be covered anymore than any woman supporting woman being covered anywhere worldwide. It haunts me to watch these woman on my DD University campus who have little choice given their customs of their societies, only their eyeballs exposed and sometimes screened. I don't find it pretty, I find it creepy everytime I pass them veiled.....Granted some brides here in the USA are only peeking through netting but to me it is the same principle. My take, a custom that should be forgotten.

Glad to hear that you approve of veils. ;) ;) :happy: (runs and hides . . . :cautious: ) :joyfull: You did present some interesting comments, though.

As others have shared, people do what's right for their own situation for personal reasons. Perhaps (for me, back when I was married) I never even considered any of the thoughts above, as I was very secure within myself, and certainly never thought of my role as being anything less than his. The traditional wedding outfit I chose was pretty fashion statement. Plus, at my wedding, I didn't have the giving away part by the dad, due to the fact that my father had passed away. (Although I have to smile here, thinking that if he was alive at the time, he'd probably say, "Take my daughter, Please!!" Reminds me a little of the old comedy gag routine by Henny Youngman.) :hilarious:
 

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
I to lean to @StarWarsGirl way of thinking when I look at my Daughter or my Son ever consider this custom of uncovering a woman or with the presentation of a woman to man tradition in a wedding ceremony. I look at woman covered on my DD University campus only eyes peeking out. Unmarried, covered. I looked at Nuns growing up in school only the rounds of their face uncovered, draped in black from head to toe. White gloves covering their hands.

It isn't balanced where a man is presented to a woman in any way, it is lopsided IMO. Am I missing something? I fail to see why covering a woman until presented to a man is acceptable or why any father would want this for their daughter other than control, woman strive so hard for equal rights and equal pay and respect yet willing would cover herself to a man for marriage? Benefits who? Why not cover both man and woman if that is important?

If I am missing something in covering a woman in a marriage ceremony I am all ears to why covering her face until her Daddy or whoever she is presented by uncovers her. I am open to why this is helpful to womanhood and their role in marriage. Me it is a very mixed message. We are equal only after we are veiled and presented? If it isn't sexist why is the man not covered?

I do get why some Dads and husbands to be enjoy the custom. Dads they can believe they have control over who their DD will be uncovered before, Husbands too can feel manly that a bride is unveiled before them by t choice of the bride. Willing to presented to man, still I struggled 35 years ago why my Mom insisted I be covered until my Dad presented me to a man? Ewe. Ewe. Ewe. 35 years ago I didn't grasp the desire of public display, custom to be marched down by a man and presented especially in the new millennium with the struggles of daughters and woman to be taken seriously as equals, presented covered doesn't scream equal. I've yet to hear why this custom is a plus or a benefit for woman entering a marriage. I'm uncomfortable with Nuns being covered for some unknown custom devised by men and equally appalled by woman being covered worldwide. I fail and struggle to see why woman in a free society want to be covered anymore than any woman supporting woman being covered anywhere worldwide. It haunts me to watch these woman on my DD University campus who have little choice given their customs of their societies, only their eyeballs exposed and sometimes screened. I don't find it pretty, I find it creepy everytime I pass them veiled.....Granted some brides here in the USA are only peeking through netting but to me it is the same principle. My take, a custom that should be forgotten.

Tens of millions of women choose to uphold these customs for a lot more reasons than "so my man can control me". In fact, you'll find most Muslim women do choose to wear the veil for the sake of modesty before God (same as Catholics covering their hair). Tens of millions of women choose to wear a veil on their wedding day because they find it pretty, or they want to look like their mom did, or they just like them, not because "my dad needs to pass me onto my husband as a possession".

Women can fight for equality without tearing other women down for making different choices than they would have made.
 

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