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ajrwdwgirl

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What movies did you watch? I love a sappy Christmas movie.:inlove:
Speaking of Christmas, I just got back from the mall in Zurich. It was a special Sunday here were all the stores are open as usually everything is closed on Sundays. I wanted to buy some new shoes but couldn't find any that fitted properly. I was able to take in the pretty Christmas decorations.
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This is a rotating tree with a free merry go round at the bottom. There is also a little train going round the base of the tree.

That tree is gorgeous! Sorry about the shoes but if you saw pretty decorations that is still a win.
 

ajrwdwgirl

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I am doing great. Yes,I can definitely crochet. I am even in the process of crocheting a few Christmas Presents. The first 24 hours were hard since I had to wear that eye shield and I could not put on my eye glasses. When I could take off the shield, I have been able to wear my glasses, I see well in both eyes, with my glasses on, despite the fact that I am still waiting to schedule my 2nd cataract surgery. Everything positive everyone told me about cataract surgery was indeed true. The vision in my right eye is definitely better. I have even lost that heavy feeling that I had. Not sure what was causing that, but the feeling is gone. Maybe a factor of my droopy eyelid, or my Trigeminal Neuralgia. For now, no heaviness at all. I see my eye doctor next week. My Primary Care Doctor on December 12. The Cardiologist on January 2nd. Not sure when I will schedule the 2nd cataract surgery. I'm sure I am going to need a 2nd Medical Clearance from my Primary Doctor before the surgery, so that may delay scheduling some. Anyhow I am glad I went ahead with this, and look forward to the 2nd surgery being completed, so I can finally get a new eyeglass prescription, and then both of my eyes will be in sync with each other. Things are fine, except when I shop in the grocery store. Then it's difficult to read the labels on the higher shelves. I am glad, that for the moment I don't have to do any more eye drops. It's the only part of the whole process I didn't like. My husband was a prince, though, and he administered my eye drops with great precision.

I'm glad to hear that your eye surgery went well. I too am not a fan of eye drops. I had an eye infection a couple years ago and the dr. prescribed a gel, and that was so much easier to put in, I just had to put it along the edge like eye liner and blinked it in.

What fun stuff are you crocheting? I still think that Cubs blanket you did was fantastic. I didn't dare show my husband the picture you shared because he probably would have tried to go out and buy me yarn to make it. I bought some yarn at the store yesterday to make some Christmas dishcloths.
 

Pixieish

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Really, my MIL is pretty great. She just thinks her taste is superior so I should do what SHE wants so my house will look better. I'm someone who doesn't really care about trends and what's "in". I care about what I like...I buy clothes because I like them and they are comfortable, not because everyone else is wearing such and such. Same with my house. When I first moved here, we lived with them and it was right around Christmas. My mom had just passed away the July before, and because we lived with my in-laws, everything I owned besides my clothes was in storage..she wouldn't let me put any of my own furniture or decorations in our room and I HATED the decor in our room...it's everything I hate. Stark white furniture, yellow walls, wicker chair, linoleum flooring....ugh...but it wasn't my house, so I wasn't allowed to change anything. I didn't speak a word of Dutch, I hadn't gotten my placement in school yet to learn it, so I was stuck at home all day while DH was at work. I was just in a really bad place emotionally, and I jumped at the chance to go to a garden center with her for Christmas decorations. I saw some beautiful blue Christmas ornaments that I loved and I put a box in the cart...she took them out and put them back on the shelf. I was like...no, I want to buy those....with my own money. She said no, because they were blue...blue hasn't been in style for a couple of years now. I wasn't hanging up blue ornaments in HER house. What would the neighbors think??? Um..that your American daughter-in-law likes blue and doesn't care what anyone else thinks? Nope...I could get a box of smaller blue ornaments to hang in our room, but not near the window, but that was it.
When my DH and I bought this house and were moving out of their house, they were helping us fix this place up so we could move. We had been in their house or 3 years. So she was used to calling the shots because I didn't want to make waves. But this was OUR house and I wasn't going to let her paint my walls yellow or tell me what kind of wallpaper to put up. She helped put up the wallpaper and then announced she didn't like it, we were going to take it down and she would pick something better out and put it up. I said no, this is what DH and I had picked, it's what we like, and it's staying up. And she said "But...people will know I helped put it up and they will wonder why I allowed you to put this ugly wallpaper up!" I said I didn't care what other people thought...it's MY house, I am the one who has to live with it, not them. She said "But don't you want people to feel comfortable here? And there are a couple of places where you can see it puckered a little bit!" I said no one was going to be looking that closely, and that people coming here are coming to see US, not our wallpaper. "But it looks bad! Those little places where you can see it isn't perfect". I was getting so frustrated. I said "Then I'll put a clock or a painting over those 2 little spots! We're NOT changing the wallpaper!!" Now that we've been in this house for 12 years, she doesn't try to change things anymore. She knows I'm not going to listen. She DOES still try to tell me stuff like...that I need to get a new winter coat for my son. Or that I should wear a blouse over my top. I just ignore her. She MEANS well, she just doesn't understand how anyone could choose something different than she does because she thinks her taste is so much better. Like...WHY would anyone choose to hang up blue ornaments instead of silver with red ribbons? Silver with red ribbons looks so much better! Sometimes I wear my Christmas sweater just to annoy her...she thinks it's so gaudy and "Dutch people would never wear such a thing". I said "Good thing I'm not Dutch!" Most of the time I play nice, but once in a while, I think it's good for her to be reminded that I have my own tastes and that I'm perfectly capable of making my own decisions about what I buy, what I wear, how I cook, etc. She doesn't have to like it, but she has to accept it.

She sounds like my mom! I feel the same way - don't pay attention to trends at all, and she's all "But this is in fashion!" I had yellow walls and yellow linoleum in my room growing up and I hate it (not to mention it makes my skin look horrid), but she's always trying to get me to do yellow somewhere...

She also does things like slam teachers and teachers' unions even though I'm going to be one, and thinks she knows better than than I do no matter what subject we're discussing. It can be very disheartening talking to her. Oh - and shredding random people we see while we're out and about...no one is off limits for fashion, body shape, hairdo, makeup, or whatever. I actually called and thanked her for such a fun time after a recent outing and mentioned that it was nice to have her in my "happiness bubble" with me because she didn't verbally bash anyone. (I literally notice basically no one outside of the party I'm out with, and I call it that.)

Most of the time she really means well...but holy critical.
 
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Cesar R M

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Really, my MIL is pretty great. She just thinks her taste is superior so I should do what SHE wants so my house will look better. I'm someone who doesn't really care about trends and what's "in". I care about what I like...I buy clothes because I like them and they are comfortable, not because everyone else is wearing such and such. Same with my house. When I first moved here, we lived with them and it was right around Christmas. My mom had just passed away the July before, and because we lived with my in-laws, everything I owned besides my clothes was in storage..she wouldn't let me put any of my own furniture or decorations in our room and I HATED the decor in our room...it's everything I hate. Stark white furniture, yellow walls, wicker chair, linoleum flooring....ugh...but it wasn't my house, so I wasn't allowed to change anything. I didn't speak a word of Dutch, I hadn't gotten my placement in school yet to learn it, so I was stuck at home all day while DH was at work. I was just in a really bad place emotionally, and I jumped at the chance to go to a garden center with her for Christmas decorations. I saw some beautiful blue Christmas ornaments that I loved and I put a box in the cart...she took them out and put them back on the shelf. I was like...no, I want to buy those....with my own money. She said no, because they were blue...blue hasn't been in style for a couple of years now. I wasn't hanging up blue ornaments in HER house. What would the neighbors think??? Um..that your American daughter-in-law likes blue and doesn't care what anyone else thinks? Nope...I could get a box of smaller blue ornaments to hang in our room, but not near the window, but that was it.
When my DH and I bought this house and were moving out of their house, they were helping us fix this place up so we could move. We had been in their house or 3 years. So she was used to calling the shots because I didn't want to make waves. But this was OUR house and I wasn't going to let her paint my walls yellow or tell me what kind of wallpaper to put up. She helped put up the wallpaper and then announced she didn't like it, we were going to take it down and she would pick something better out and put it up. I said no, this is what DH and I had picked, it's what we like, and it's staying up. And she said "But...people will know I helped put it up and they will wonder why I allowed you to put this ugly wallpaper up!" I said I didn't care what other people thought...it's MY house, I am the one who has to live with it, not them. She said "But don't you want people to feel comfortable here? And there are a couple of places where you can see it puckered a little bit!" I said no one was going to be looking that closely, and that people coming here are coming to see US, not our wallpaper. "But it looks bad! Those little places where you can see it isn't perfect". I was getting so frustrated. I said "Then I'll put a clock or a painting over those 2 little spots! We're NOT changing the wallpaper!!" Now that we've been in this house for 12 years, she doesn't try to change things anymore. She knows I'm not going to listen. She DOES still try to tell me stuff like...that I need to get a new winter coat for my son. Or that I should wear a blouse over my top. I just ignore her. She MEANS well, she just doesn't understand how anyone could choose something different than she does because she thinks her taste is so much better. Like...WHY would anyone choose to hang up blue ornaments instead of silver with red ribbons? Silver with red ribbons looks so much better! Sometimes I wear my Christmas sweater just to annoy her...she thinks it's so gaudy and "Dutch people would never wear such a thing". I said "Good thing I'm not Dutch!" Most of the time I play nice, but once in a while, I think it's good for her to be reminded that I have my own tastes and that I'm perfectly capable of making my own decisions about what I buy, what I wear, how I cook, etc. She doesn't have to like it, but she has to accept it.

Christ, you have the patience of a saint!!.

I definitively dont.

If someone was like that (I had someone who did). I told them to GET THE F** OUT and never return. (specially since the person in question just wouldn't listen that it was none of his/her business and it was my property). Turns out this person was just manipulative and controlling and did the same to everyone (The person in question was technically living her/his life of tastes by using other people to pay for it).

The good side is, this person started to get the hint as he started to lose friends everywhere.
 

Songbird76

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Blue is my favorite color. For a few years our tree was just completely silver and blue. We called it our Hanukkah Christmas tree.Then one year it was red, white, and blue. This year the kids were allowed to go put whatever up. While it is not the prettiest tree in terms of layout, it is beautiful to us and I don't really care what others would say. Our new tree itself is just gorgeous. I love the fake snow (flocking), and I love we can change the lights from all colorful to just all white. When it is all white it looks like a tree in Narnia.
I saw Etsy has lots of Potter robes. https://www.etsy.com/search?q=harry+potter+robe
Our tree has always traditionally been ornaments that were family things passed down, or gifts given to us, or ones we made....they are special. Then here, now that we have kids, we have a bunch of Disney ones that we got one year when the grocery store gave out an ornament for every 5 euros you spent. So ours is a bunch of Disney with some home made ones thrown in between. Probably wouldn't be special to anyone but us, and that's kind of the point. I don't need a showpiece...it's memories. With the Disney ones, DD REALLY wanted a pink one with Tinkerbell on it. We had gotten TONS of all the others, but hadn't gotten a pink one yet. It was the last day of the promotion, and DD was...4? She said how she just KNEW she was going to get a pink one this time. I told her we couldn't know that...they were wrapped, so you couldn't see. The cashier heard us talking and she and 2 other cashiers went through every remaining ornament to find a pink one for her. There was just a little clear spot along the edge of the wrapping where you could see if you placed it just right. They pulled out the last box and a half they had and literally stood there looking through every one of them and there was only the one pink one left. She was SOOOO excited. And it was kind of funny because then I needed to get something from the service desk and they had a few ornaments there, too...and we got a pink one, but it had Minnie Mouse on it and not Tinkerbell. So we ended up with 2 pink ones...one Tink and one MM. And then the next time we came to the store, they had taken all the promotional materials, like buttons, posters, and inflatable ornaments and set them aside for my kids. I LOVE my grocery store people here. So those ornaments are memories for us.

As for the robes, it's not school robes she wants...it's a marauders map dressing gown.
 

Songbird76

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@Songbird76 your MIL would hate how my house is decorated. Most walls are blue with white trim.
Oh her room is blue now...it was just the Christmas decorations that blue was out. It's a thorn in her side that I don't follow trends. She thinks it's a Wyoming thing because when she came to our wedding, which was in Wyo, no one was wearing the things that people in the Netherlands were wearing. Well...no...because it's a colder climate and the Netherlands are not really a hotbed of fashion trend setters. People wear more practical things, and they follow more trends from like...New York, rather than the Netherlands. But I was never a trend follower in Wyoming either. When you are poor and your wardrobe consists of throw aways from friends, or from thrift shops, you can't really afford to be picky about brand names or fashion trends. You take what you can get. I learned to appreciate whatever was affordable as opposed to what brand was hot at the moment. It has nothing to do with being from Wyoming.
 

Pixieish

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Oh her room is blue now...it was just the Christmas decorations that blue was out. It's a thorn in her side that I don't follow trends. She thinks it's a Wyoming thing because when she came to our wedding, which was in Wyo, no one was wearing the things that people in the Netherlands were wearing. Well...no...because it's a colder climate and the Netherlands are not really a hotbed of fashion trend setters. People wear more practical things, and they follow more trends from like...New York, rather than the Netherlands. But I was never a trend follower in Wyoming either. When you are poor and your wardrobe consists of throw aways from friends, or from thrift shops, you can't really afford to be picky about brand names or fashion trends. You take what you can get. I learned to appreciate whatever was affordable as opposed to what brand was hot at the moment. It has nothing to do with being from Wyoming.
AMEN.
 

Songbird76

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I was just about to say it was probably New Glarus when I saw your other post. Even though I live in Wisconsin I have only visited the town once, it is about a 3 1/2 -4 hour drive away. It was a cute little town. A lot of buildings were in a Swiss chalet style. The big thing it is known for here in Wisconsin now is the brewery. It has really good beer and is not sold outside of Wisconsin at all. I'm sure @donaldtoo would be interested in the beer!
Yeah, we went there one Summer when we were visiting the cousins....it was a cute little town. I bought a lot of swiss chocolate there. And I wanted a cuckoo clock.
 

Songbird76

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Christ, you have the patience of a saint!!.

I definitively dont.

If someone was like that (I had someone who did). I told them to GET THE F** OUT and never return. (specially since the person in question just wouldn't listen that it was none of his/her business and it was my property). Turns out this person was just manipulative and controlling and did the same to everyone (The person in question was technically living her/his life of tastes by using other people to pay for it).

The good side is, this person started to get the hint as he started to lose friends everywhere.
Well, with my MIL, she really does mean well. She just can't understand why you wouldn't like something she does...it boggles her. It's like..."But this looks so much better!" And I was also used to my mom...and my mom was 10 times worse. With my mom, I wasn't allowed to wear things if she didn't like them. Like...it was in style to "peg-leg" your pants...my mom thought it looked stupid, so I wasn't allowed to. I would to it at school and then undo it before I got home. Mall bangs....not allowed. Stonewashed jeans, not allowed. There were these boots with leather fringe that were all the rage...my mom said they were for hookers. Same with leather jackets. And with my mom, if you didn't do things her way, she took it as a rejection. The biggest fights we ever had were because I told her I needed to do something MY way, that I was a different person and what worked for her, didn't always work for me. She took that as me telling her that her way was wrong and not good enough for me. And my mom got ANGRY when you disagreed with her. My MIL is pushy, but she doesn't get ANGRY. My mom would freeze me out. She basically disowned me because I wouldn't dump my boyfriend in college. She avoided me, wouldn't speak to me, and wrote me long letters detailing how much of a disappointment I was and asking why I was being so difficult and not doing what she told me to do. She wrote letters to my friends asking them to "fix" me and talk sense into me. I had learned to kind of avoid confrontation with her, so dealing with my MIL wasn't as hard. She was manipulative about things, but she wouldn't yell at me or make me feel bad for my choices. I guess that's a form of patience...but it was just...what I was used to.
 

MySmallWorldof4

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Well, with my MIL, she really does mean well. She just can't understand why you wouldn't like something she does...it boggles her. It's like..."But this looks so much better!" And I was also used to my mom...and my mom was 10 times worse. With my mom, I wasn't allowed to wear things if she didn't like them. Like...it was in style to "peg-leg" your pants...my mom thought it looked stupid, so I wasn't allowed to. I would to it at school and then undo it before I got home. Mall bangs....not allowed. Stonewashed jeans, not allowed. There were these boots with leather fringe that were all the rage...my mom said they were for hookers. Same with leather jackets. And with my mom, if you didn't do things her way, she took it as a rejection. The biggest fights we ever had were because I told her I needed to do something MY way, that I was a different person and what worked for her, didn't always work for me. She took that as me telling her that her way was wrong and not good enough for me. And my mom got ANGRY when you disagreed with her. My MIL is pushy, but she doesn't get ANGRY. My mom would freeze me out. She basically disowned me because I wouldn't dump my boyfriend in college. She avoided me, wouldn't speak to me, and wrote me long letters detailing how much of a disappointment I was and asking why I was being so difficult and not doing what she told me to do. She wrote letters to my friends asking them to "fix" me and talk sense into me. I had learned to kind of avoid confrontation with her, so dealing with my MIL wasn't as hard. She was manipulative about things, but she wouldn't yell at me or make me feel bad for my choices. I guess that's a form of patience...but it was just...what I was used to.
It seems that your relationship with your mother prepared you very well for dealing with your MIL. You were blessed with a lot of patience.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Six made the cut and moved with us. We found a good home for one and sent another one back to her real home.

Hope the changes were all positive, and things worked out better as a result, for you and also the horses.

Edit: I just read your response to someone else, and I was sorry to hear that you lost your job. Thank God you landed on your feet though--as you said, not everyone would have been so fortunate. Glad to hear that you got through it.
 
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MinnieM123

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I made my traditional day after Thanksgiving mini feast too. No turkey, but 2 broiled chickens from Sam's as we only eat white meat. Lime Green Jello. Garlic mashed potatoes, green bean casserole in honor of @figmentfan423 , a mega pan of stuffing, gravy, corn and Hawaiian biscuits. Day after feasts gets served in Gladware and served on fancy disposable dishes. Minus the Jello made early, the whole meal took about an 1.5 prepare and to cook. Stuffing took an hour to prepare and 3 to cook. Nice, laid back but just as yummy.

Note: no sweet potatoes

Yum! Ours was good, too. Tonight we're having open faced, hot turkey sandwiches with stuffing and gravy, and also cranberry sauce. :hungry:
 

DryerLintFan

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I was SOOOO excited to find GS cookies when I was home for dad's funeral. They were just setting up outside KMart when we came out. So I bought Thin Mints, Tagalongs, and Samoas. And S'mores, but those were just for the kids as for me, I need the real thing, not a cookie composed of all the s'more elements. It's just not the same when it's not oozing freshly roasted marshmallows and melting chocolate. Half the appeal of s'mores is the gooey-ness. My kids had never had honest to goodness s'mores before since they don't have graham crackers here, nor hershey's, and the marshmallows aren't the same. So they wanted to try the s'mores cookies...whatever. BUT, I also bought REAL s'mores fixings to bring home and I have now properly educated them in the art of s'mores culinary delights.

The only way the s'mores cookies taste like s'mores is if you roast a Marshmallow and put it and chocolate in between two of them. Those were awful. Definitely sticking to thin mints and Samoas in the future!!
 

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