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betty rose

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Sounds like that is kind of what it is. I know that my skills and thought processes have changed over the years. I catch myself either on the verge of doing something stupid or after the fact, quite often. I'm only 68 years old. Old age and loneliness is an awful feeling. The need to feel like you are useful is strong and without it we kind of give up and decide that there really is no reason to live. Someone that she relied on died and left her alone to find a way to continue on and perhaps she isn't finding it easy. Instead of being a care giver, she has just found herself in the position of being dependent. Perhaps she wants to prove to herself that she can still be independent and do things that she once might have been able to do when she was younger. When depressed and feeling helpless we don't always think rationally. I cannot speak for her, but, I would probably drive myself to the hospital if I were bleeding from an artery, that is how bent I am on not being a burden and not getting "to old" to take care of myself.

Twenty one years ago my Father, at 74 years old, decided that he needed to fix a leak on his roof. He had angina and rheumatoid arthritis for many years. He could barely walk 100 yards without having to sit down and ease the pain. Yet, he dragged out his ladder and went up on the roof. He did it and fixed the damaged area and spent the rest of the evening bragging about how he was still able to do stuff for himself. Well, he bragged about that and also spent the rest of the time complaining about how he had awful heartburn that he could feel in his throat. If you hadn't guessed already he had just had the first of two heart attacks that week. The second one was his last. He hadn't lost his mind, he was sharp as a tack, but, the compulsion to feel like he was still useful was overpowering and it cost him his life. Why do we do something like that to ourselves, I wish I knew the answer because there is a better then even chance I will follow in his footsteps although I do not have a roof to climb onto, but, I'm sure I can be creative.

What I am seeing from your description is a woman that is lost. She is scared and she is trying to cope with her grief, anger and overwhelming anxiety about her future and what is next to come. I know it is easy to get angry at someone that seem to be doing things just to get attention, but, that is only part of it. She needs comfort, she needs to feel secure. You cannot give her that by just telling her... she has to be able to identify it on her own. If you love her just be as patient as you can be. Believe me, someday you might very well find yourself in exactly the same place and you will really need someone to realize just how much you are hurting.
I'm beginning to understand that's it's a difficult process to grow old. I can't do the things I used to.... hubby took me to the craft store to find a new craft to do.... I used to do cross stitch, I can't see the patterns, hubby, didn't understand, he wants to find something for me to do....I've disappointed him, I'm not sure where we go from here....He knows, I'm feeling this loss of what I could do , paint, sew, cross stitch, crochet, ice skate, sled, etc, I'm trying to find a new outlet, it seems cooking and coming up with new recipes are working at the moment, but we are gaining weight! I need to find a better hobby!
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Perhaps senility, or Alzheimer's. A lot of senior's have this by 80. I took a simple test a couple year's ago. It didn't show......but I had signs.....So I'm monitoring this....

Yeah, long before my Dad became very ill I was seeing things that made me ponder that. Saw more of it while Dad was real sick and when he passed. I tried to talk to my Sis about it but she strongly brushed it off that she can pay bills and shower etc. I'm seeing more, where she doesn't drift far from home, re-writes stories, but this idea of things that are dangerous is just crazy. My Mom said for a decade the day my Dad would pass she would sell the house. But now my Mom with my Sis strongly pushing for staying in the house is no longer wanting to move into a condo. My Sis is a very sentimental type person and while she lives out of state that house is 'home' to her as she can't remember living anywhere else growing up. My Eldest Aunt died at 83 and did have Alzheimer's/Dementia. There were 12 siblings, my eldest Aunt being the only one with any history of that type of senility. But yeah, I tend to agree.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Yep, I also much prefer the Imagineering story told on MSUSA back in the day.
The Castle not feeling nearly as much like it was part of Main Street, but, even more off in the distance beyond the trees and more like in it's own kingdom, the specialty shops, etc.
But, as it exists today doesn't make me want to be walking down it towards that Castle right now any less. ;)

Yep. Some are fine with it. Some love the new hub. Me, just not so much. I just favor the original design. Still happy to be in the park, just not in that area so much anymore. I feel the same way about the Studio's. I miss the imagineering portion of the park, walking in and having the feeling of things being created. It was a connection.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Sounds like that is kind of what it is. I know that my skills and thought processes have changed over the years. I catch myself either on the verge of doing something stupid or after the fact, quite often. I'm only 68 years old. Old age and loneliness is an awful feeling. The need to feel like you are useful is strong and without it we kind of give up and decide that there really is no reason to live. Someone that she relied on died and left her alone to find a way to continue on and perhaps she isn't finding it easy. Instead of being a care giver, she has just found herself in the position of being dependent. Perhaps she wants to prove to herself that she can still be independent and do things that she once might have been able to do when she was younger. When depressed and feeling helpless we don't always think rationally. I cannot speak for her, but, I would probably drive myself to the hospital if I were bleeding from an artery, that is how bent I am on not being a burden and not getting "to old" to take care of myself.

Twenty one years ago my Father, at 74 years old, decided that he needed to fix a leak on his roof. He had angina and rheumatoid arthritis for many years. He could barely walk 100 yards without having to sit down and ease the pain. Yet, he dragged out his ladder and went up on the roof. He did it and fixed the damaged area and spent the rest of the evening bragging about how he was still able to do stuff for himself. Well, he bragged about that and also spent the rest of the time complaining about how he had awful heartburn that he could feel in his throat. If you hadn't guessed already he had just had the first of two heart attacks that week. The second one was his last. He hadn't lost his mind, he was sharp as a tack, but, the compulsion to feel like he was still useful was overpowering and it cost him his life. Why do we do something like that to ourselves, I wish I knew the answer because there is a better then even chance I will follow in his footsteps although I do not have a roof to climb onto, but, I'm sure I can be creative.

What I am seeing from your description is a woman that is lost. She is scared and she is trying to cope with her grief, anger and overwhelming anxiety about her future and what is next to come. I know it is easy to get angry at someone that seem to be doing things just to get attention, but, that is only part of it. She needs comfort, she needs to feel secure. You cannot give her that by just telling her... she has to be able to identify it on her own. If you love her just be as patient as you can be. Believe me, someday you might very well find yourself in exactly the same place and you will really need someone to realize just how much you are hurting.

Some of what you say does ring true. Other parts not what so ever. The stupid things she is doing we have covered. She isn't grieving, never did and I didn't expect she would. She enjoyed playing the martyr when my Dad was ill, again doing things like washing his clothes, bring food etc when Dad was ill, all that were covered already.

I get more the bored out of wits but she has options if she so chooses, there are not any financial obstacles. At her age that house is way too big for her even though it is 'home' she is not a sentimental person and actually enjoys tossing things that have meaning to others. She has always been odd that way even when I was very young. She has always had a thing about others and herself being attached to objects. I'm not getting the risk of life and limb over the house that she lacks any bond with.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
I love Tangled for the music. Disney movies, has the best music.

I agree. Still every once in awhile they force a film and the soundtrack is just a fail. That is always disappointing 'cause the vocalists are beyond the best. I actually liked the soundtrack for Frozen a great deal. Then it was so overdone that there was no recovery for me, same with the product marketing for Frozen. I wasn't overly impressed with the movie, it was basically the same hard boiled, canned Disney princess movie but it was perfectly fine. The soundtrack grabbed me, it was excellent, just the overkill thereafter that got to me.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Here ya' go...!!! :)

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With pepperoni straws, too...!!!!! :joyfull: :hungry: ;)

Yes Please.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
You shared some good insight there. We all have a desire to be needed and feel productive.

I'm also independent, and I think I'd make a lousey senior citizen . . . I'd be out there in cold temperatures walking around in a blizzard, just as happy as can be . . . until I froze to death?! :eek: :p

Yep. Me getting lost on the Riverwalk with a Pup. Hopefully the Pup knows where Home is and would drag me there by their leash. All of my Pups knew where to turn to get home. They ALWAYS knew exactly where home was.

Sadly every senior is different. They all have their own story and health issues and strange coping mechanisms. Like I said I've been watching this with my Mom long before my Dad became very ill or passed.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
It's not my favorite either, but good Chinese restaurants have a lot of variety on their menus, so it's good to try multiple dishes that are different from one another. I like orange beef or orange chicken, or sesame chicken, but don't really care for other dishes. I don't have it a lot, but my brother loves Asian dishes and my mother loves Chinese, so I'll have it once in a while with them.

Although there was one time when we were going to get lunch to bring to my aunt's house, and my mom, brother, and aunt got Chinese and I went to Chipotle. :hungry:
Same here,I only like a few group of dishes from chinese, hate the rest.

In the other hand, havent tried chipotle.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
I know. Believe me I know. We shouldn't even talk about how many times I've watched that trailor...or how many times I've listened to the soundtrack Broadway version of Beauty and the Beast...or how many times I've seen the original...the most recent time being Friday because I was home sick and felt like I deserved it...

I just love Beauty and the Beast soundtrack. Actually my kids, in my opinion grew up with some of the very best of Disney soundtracks. Lion King, Beauty, Pocahontas, Aladdin, Little Mermaid, Mulan and so forth. They had Disney at their best.

Then came High School Musical and I had to hide.
 

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