The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

betty rose

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He has an aortic aneurysm where the aorta branches off to the kidney. Or...that's my understanding. A year ago, it wasn't bad enough to risk the surgery. He only has one kidney because the other one was removed when they found cancer in it. So, I guess the surgery was really risky because they didn't want to damage the remaining kidney, but now the weak spot in the aorta has grown larger and was a serious risk of rupturing, which would be fatal. (my friend's husband died of that a few years ago. He bled out too fast to be helped) So they had to go in and fix it, and because of the placement, it was very tricky. I just got word about 2 hours ago that the surgery went well. They are keeping him in the OR for a couple of hours to make sure he doesn't start bleeding, but he's expected to be just fine.
Good news, to hear.
 

Cesar R M

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Wow....why is this kid in a regular school? That sounds pretty serious and it can't be good for the learning environment of everyone else! Isn't there an alternative that would be a better fit for him, without disturbing the whole class?
Makes you wonder if the mother is pushing for the "my son is not retarded/xxx problem, my son is just special and needs to be treated like anyone but with special needs"
 

Cesar R M

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in other news.. big storm yesterday.. non stop rain for 12 hours and tons of thunder!
feels fresh this morning. hopefully we will get another storm later today and prevent the heat from getting intolerable.
I'm at 30% of all the photos I think. going slow as there is a lot to filter! (not all pictures came fine, so need to filter and delete)
 

Songbird76

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I had a very stressful day yesterday. Because of my son's emotional issues, the school signed him up for a 10 week program that helps kids with various problems...whether it's that they are shy, or they are bullied at school, or they have anger problems, etc. So yesterday was his first day and the cool thing is that it's held at the soccer stadium, so they get to interview professional soccer players, and such. But, it's a 15 -20 minute bike ride, and school gets out at 2:15 and we had to be there at 2:45 yesterday for this first one. I checked the tires on my son's bike, pumped them up, and we were headed to school and I realized my daughter's bike tires were really soft and she couldn't ride that far on them, but I couldn't get them to take air because there was a different....connector? I have no idea what that little tube thing is called. So I had to find another option for DD. I knew her one friend has dance on Wednesdays, so that wasn't an option, but the other friend maybe. But for the first time I can ever remember, her mom wasn't on the grounds to ask. So I asked another mom, but they had come by bike, so she had no way to transport DD to her house. I thought I was going to have to leave her for 2 hours by herself, which...she's 10, so I COULD, but I would rather not. The school grounds keeper has a bike pump, but he wasn't there on Wednesdays. So the principal came out and took a look, got one tire pumped up, but didn't have the right attachment for the other. I went home, found 3 different pumps, brought them all back and one of them worked, so I got her bike in order. I was so relieved. Until I got to the school to pick the kids up and there was a police car parked and an ambulance pulling up. I get around to the side where we pick up the upper grades and there's a courtyard full of crying children being comforted by parents and teachers. One of the fathers had been attacked 15 minutes earlier right next to the courtyard, and half the school had seen it. So now all the kids were afraid to walk home, lest they or their parents be attacked, too. (It turned out it was a bunch of the guys family members who attacked him...most likely an honor attack of some sort?) My kids were fortunately pretty much spared, DS being lost in his own world didn't even notice there was anything amiss and DD was too far back behind all the other kids to see anything through the windows. BUT, it was her classmate's father, and this girl is a friend of hers. Not a close friend, but a friend. And DD said that the little sister had been with the father and seen the whole thing and was found huddled in a corner crying, so her classmate ran outside and scooped up the little sister and brought her inside. When all the commotion was over and the kids returned to their classrooms, they found the girl sitting quietly with her little sister on her lap, crying. The whole thing was just disturbing. But we navigated our bikes through the sea of traumatized children and made our way to the street, but DD had fallen off her bike that morning and was nervous as anything about getting back on. DS bikes as slow as molasses, wouldn't let DD pass him, but she was having to go so slowly that she was wobbling and freaking out. Then we came to a giant hill on the bike path..it is SOOOOO poorly designed for bikes. It's steep and long and DS couldn't make it up. I was trying to get to the top before I stopped to wait because I'd never get going again on that incline. But DS is SCREAMING at me "Mommy STOP STOP STOP!!! I can't make it!! Stop!! Wait!" and I'm trying to shout to him that I'm going to just get to the top of the hill, and he's freaking out. I get up there and stop and DS walks up and then DD tries to get going again and falls off her bike. Again. So now she's freaked out and REALLY not wanting to go further, but we're only halfway there and I'm thinking we're NEVER going to make it. We made it across the train tracks without getting separated (barely. Just as we got across, the lights started flashing and the bars came down) and then the 2nd set of tracks, and we made it with 3 minutes to spare. Of course we were soaking wet with sweat because it was also over 90 degrees outside. Next week should be easier as it doesn't start until 3 and DD won't have to come with me because there won't be an informational meeting for the parents, so I can just drop him off and go home and go back at 5 to pick him up. AND it's supposed to FINALLY cool down starting this weekend. But I was a ball of anxiety yesterday and it didn't help that my husband was gone all day at some sort of fair for his work, so he didn't get home until 9 last night and didn't know anything about the incident at the school. And then my FIL had his surgery this morning so we were also all stressed about that. My friends have prescribed alcohol and cake.
 

Figgy1

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I had a very stressful day yesterday. Because of my son's emotional issues, the school signed him up for a 10 week program that helps kids with various problems...whether it's that they are shy, or they are bullied at school, or they have anger problems, etc. So yesterday was his first day and the cool thing is that it's held at the soccer stadium, so they get to interview professional soccer players, and such. But, it's a 15 -20 minute bike ride, and school gets out at 2:15 and we had to be there at 2:45 yesterday for this first one. I checked the tires on my son's bike, pumped them up, and we were headed to school and I realized my daughter's bike tires were really soft and she couldn't ride that far on them, but I couldn't get them to take air because there was a different....connector? I have no idea what that little tube thing is called. So I had to find another option for DD. I knew her one friend has dance on Wednesdays, so that wasn't an option, but the other friend maybe. But for the first time I can ever remember, her mom wasn't on the grounds to ask. So I asked another mom, but they had come by bike, so she had no way to transport DD to her house. I thought I was going to have to leave her for 2 hours by herself, which...she's 10, so I COULD, but I would rather not. The school grounds keeper has a bike pump, but he wasn't there on Wednesdays. So the principal came out and took a look, got one tire pumped up, but didn't have the right attachment for the other. I went home, found 3 different pumps, brought them all back and one of them worked, so I got her bike in order. I was so relieved. Until I got to the school to pick the kids up and there was a police car parked and an ambulance pulling up. I get around to the side where we pick up the upper grades and there's a courtyard full of crying children being comforted by parents and teachers. One of the fathers had been attacked 15 minutes earlier right next to the courtyard, and half the school had seen it. So now all the kids were afraid to walk home, lest they or their parents be attacked, too. (It turned out it was a bunch of the guys family members who attacked him...most likely an honor attack of some sort?) My kids were fortunately pretty much spared, DS being lost in his own world didn't even notice there was anything amiss and DD was too far back behind all the other kids to see anything through the windows. BUT, it was her classmate's father, and this girl is a friend of hers. Not a close friend, but a friend. And DD said that the little sister had been with the father and seen the whole thing and was found huddled in a corner crying, so her classmate ran outside and scooped up the little sister and brought her inside. When all the commotion was over and the kids returned to their classrooms, they found the girl sitting quietly with her little sister on her lap, crying. The whole thing was just disturbing. But we navigated our bikes through the sea of traumatized children and made our way to the street, but DD had fallen off her bike that morning and was nervous as anything about getting back on. DS bikes as slow as molasses, wouldn't let DD pass him, but she was having to go so slowly that she was wobbling and freaking out. Then we came to a giant hill on the bike path..it is SOOOOO poorly designed for bikes. It's steep and long and DS couldn't make it up. I was trying to get to the top before I stopped to wait because I'd never get going again on that incline. But DS is SCREAMING at me "Mommy STOP STOP STOP!!! I can't make it!! Stop!! Wait!" and I'm trying to shout to him that I'm going to just get to the top of the hill, and he's freaking out. I get up there and stop and DS walks up and then DD tries to get going again and falls off her bike. Again. So now she's freaked out and REALLY not wanting to go further, but we're only halfway there and I'm thinking we're NEVER going to make it. We made it across the train tracks without getting separated (barely. Just as we got across, the lights started flashing and the bars came down) and then the 2nd set of tracks, and we made it with 3 minutes to spare. Of course we were soaking wet with sweat because it was also over 90 degrees outside. Next week should be easier as it doesn't start until 3 and DD won't have to come with me because there won't be an informational meeting for the parents, so I can just drop him off and go home and go back at 5 to pick him up. AND it's supposed to FINALLY cool down starting this weekend. But I was a ball of anxiety yesterday and it didn't help that my husband was gone all day at some sort of fair for his work, so he didn't get home until 9 last night and didn't know anything about the incident at the school. And then my FIL had his surgery this morning so we were also all stressed about that. My friends have prescribed alcohol and cake.
That's horrible! I hope today is better and you can find some time to relax. Prayers and pixie dust. BTW some of our Potter pics are up in my TR hope you like them when you get a minute to look
 

Songbird76

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That's really sad. I wonder if he bullies at school.
My nephew? Well, that's how he got diagnosed. He was 3 and they were going to kick him out of preschool for aggression if they didn't have him tested and get some support in place. I have no idea if he is still that way at school. I know that my BIL didn't really start disciplining him until they caught him lying about everything under the sun. He would always just say it was an accident if he tripped my son, or threw something at him...or he'd say my son ran into the wall, or fell on the stairs, and they'd believe him. But then at school he started telling the teachers about their amazing trip to an amusement park and the teacher would say "Oh, it's so great he had such a good time there!" and my BIL would say "But...we never went there." He'd lie about what he ate for breakfast, or about things that happened at school, or what he said to someone. And once he started getting punished for lying, then he started saying everything was a joke. Oh, I was joking when I said I had a hotdog for lunch. I was just kidding when I said Opa hadn't told me not to do such and such. My BIL cracked down on him a bit more and he's gotten loads better. He'll still cheat at a board game every chance he gets, but for the most part, he doesn't pull the nasty physical stuff anymore.
 

betty rose

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My nephew? Well, that's how he got diagnosed. He was 3 and they were going to kick him out of preschool for aggression if they didn't have him tested and get some support in place. I have no idea if he is still that way at school. I know that my BIL didn't really start disciplining him until they caught him lying about everything under the sun. He would always just say it was an accident if he tripped my son, or threw something at him...or he'd say my son ran into the wall, or fell on the stairs, and they'd believe him. But then at school he started telling the teachers about their amazing trip to an amusement park and the teacher would say "Oh, it's so great he had such a good time there!" and my BIL would say "But...we never went there." He'd lie about what he ate for breakfast, or about things that happened at school, or what he said to someone. And once he started getting punished for lying, then he started saying everything was a joke. Oh, I was joking when I said I had a hotdog for lunch. I was just kidding when I said Opa hadn't told me not to do such and such. My BIL cracked down on him a bit more and he's gotten loads better. He'll still cheat at a board game every chance he gets, but for the most part, he doesn't pull the nasty physical stuff anymore.
That's good to hear. I'm glad BIL is straightening him out. It will be much better for him in the long run.
 

Songbird76

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Pervasive Developmental Disorder Not Otherwise Specified. That was my brother's diagnosis initially too. Autism used to just be the classic autism you'll see where the person doesn't function at all. They changed Autism several years ago to Autism Spectrum Disorder, which basically puts many different conditions, like Asperger's, PDD-NOS, and classic autism under the same "umbrella", so to speak.

My parents are normally pretty good about not letting his behavior slide. It seemed to be the hitting thing that they were letting slide. But if one of them got whacked, you could bet he'd be in trouble.

I've always been the target for when he gets angry. Ever since we were kids. There was one time he got mad because he didn't want to be in a store, so he kicked me in the shin. Even though I was not doing anything. I think he was four and I was 10. Then when he could reach my head, it got worse, and of course being the shortest person in my family, I was getting whacked long before he tried it with my parents. My dad especially would just tell me, "Oh, he's being a typical little brother." No, typical little brother behavior is when he comes to me and starts tormenting, and I tell him to knock it off and go away. Annoying, but harmless, and pretty typical. The hitting was not harmless.

I don't really place the blame at my brother's door for that one; I love my brother. My parents, although they've been good parents overall, made the mistake of not stopping that behavior is its tracks when it started.

There should have been severe consequences when that behavior started when he was three or four. Because for a while in elementary school, he was hitting there as well. If they had nipped that behavior at home when it started (or better yet, had consulted with a behavior specialist when all this started), it probably wouldn't have taken until middle school for his behavior to be better at school. And now he's one of the better behaved kids at school.

It's one of those things where you look at your parents and go, "Ya know what, if I have kids, I'm going to do that differently."
Yes...that's what it is. I knew the Not Otherwise Specified bit, but not the beginning. That's what my Nephew has. My son has not been diagnosed. I talked to specialists, we had him observed, etc, and then we finally got him to a psychologist a couple of years ago and she said while he has traits that are consistent with the spectrum, he's not needing any more specific help that would require a diagnosis, so she advised against getting him tested. Once they have that label, it doesn't go away, and if there's no benefit to having it, in terms of extra resources or assistance, there's really no good reason to label him for the rest of his life. He did go through a biting stage when he was about 2 or 3. When he was angry about something, he would bite. Usually his sister. So one time he did that and I told him that every time he bit her, I was going to bite him. I bit him one time, not even hard enough to hurt, just that he felt that it WOULD hurt if I bit any harder. He never did it again. And he went into the corner every time he hit or threw something, so that behavior was pretty short-lived as well.
 

Songbird76

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That's horrible! I hope today is better and you can find some time to relax. Prayers and pixie dust. BTW some of our Potter pics are up in my TR hope you like them when you get a minute to look
Oh fantastic!! I'll go look! Yes, today was better. The police came and went to each class to talk about what happened yesterday and answered questions. My daughter's best friend is terrified of police since her father was arrested once in front of her. (no idea what for, and he's not in jail now, so ???) DD was worried about her because she sat with her head in her arms so she couldn't see the policemen. So she had some problems today with the police being there, but other than that, it seems to have all gone smoothly, and the school is handling it well.
DS's soccer practice was canceled because of the heat, so we are having a nice relaxing evening, knowing that my FIL is doing well, and we have nowhere to be tonight.
 

donaldtoo

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I kind of miss the paper too but I'm with @Cesar R M, I like the magic bands so I can manage the fast passes without criss crossing parks to get the paper fast passes. It's okay at Disneyland because it is a smaller space to transport across but I did miss the magic bands when I was at DL.

Yep, I like the MBs, as well. We've only used them once back during our short Feb. trip, but, they worked fine for the most part. I think I only got the blue swirl of death once, maybe twice. :eek: ;)
I still can' believe we forgot all our pretty colored ones at home, and all ended up with gray ones that we picked up at the resort...!!! :hilarious:
 

donaldtoo

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I think I read something about the ability to change without costs if they force the change.The only change I could have made on Delta without taking a full day off would have been to another day which meant missing out on a half a day at WDW.

Fortunately I won't have to mess around. I talked to my boss this morning and he understood the situation. I didn't have to show him the proof of the change, although I offered. He said they haven't finalized plans for the inservice yet but it shouldn't be a problem to make up the time without using personal time either. So I was relieved about that. Now lets see if he remembers.....Although I did text hubby about it right after so I could use that to jog the bosses memory if need be.

Phew...
Glad ya' got it all worked out...! :)
 

donaldtoo

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I hope your day went better today. I think everyone has bad work days and I don't mind if people vent a little. I have! :) Hopefully those days were the "stuff" hits the fan are few and far between.

Like this...?! :eek: :oops: ;)

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