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Gabe1

Gabe1

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StarWarsGirl said:
I agree. It's different for marketers. Marketers need to understand trends within an age group to be able to market to that age group. That is needed. What is different is applying negative stereotypes to individuals. And then other stereotypes, such as entitlement, I think apply to the general human population, not just millenials.

As far as the DCP goes, I find that the two nicest groups of CMs are CP kids and older workers. I assume many older workers are ones who love Disney and decided to retire here and work here. The CP kids also genuinely want to be here and usually are very friendly and hard working. I find that CP kids are nicer to me than adult employees can be. Some are really quite rude, whereas the CP kids are never rude, to me or my parents.

So from Disney's point of view, they get a group that wants to be here and learns the ropes and may eventually transition into working for the company, plus they are cheaper and willing to do jobs many adults probably are not . Hmmm...
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I agree with the blah blah blah about the entitlement generation quips. Yesterday I saw a man with his wife in hobby lobby buying a wedding picture frame. He was in a high end country club outfit, emblem polo and hat. When the cashier said the amount he kinda tossed the cash at her on the counter and pulled out change from his pocket and tossed bouncing the coins at her one by one as he picked them out of his palm. Just icky. Jerks in every age demographic.

Besides if it was really the entitlement generation it would be the older generation's fault for molding these young adults in that manner and if it is the entire millennial group it would be every single adults fault that had a child poor child raising skills, that is why it is funny that us older folks would say such things. Are we not the ones that invented every child gets a trophy? No scores kept in T-Ball? I was raised with no pain no gain, these kids didn't start everyone's a winner their parents did. How do we think us older folks became dubbed the Helicopter Parents?
So it is weird for older adults to be pointing out some of things that backfired that were created by us. We as a generation are the ones that can't take responsibility for the parenting style. And it leached into everything, every kid got a sticker on their homework, red pens were no longer used because they were too cruel. Yep my generation came up with all this crud.

And yes you are right, the CPs on a whole are a good group of well educated kids. Sure a few bad apples but that would likely be the same from any age group of Disney employees. Yes they are paid poorly as are most CMs. These kids are not bitter about it, they are moving on. In theory I could retire and work for Disney for extra pocket money and something to keep my mind active. Trying to raise a family on those wages would have been very rough.
 
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Gabe1

Gabe1

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Dinglehopper86 said:
Disney is my #1 by far and will always be. No matter if the attractions are older and not as wild as the Uni rides. Disney for me is much more than that. It is the entire package. Seeing the characters in person I so love on the screen in the movies, having a Mickey Ice Cream Bar, listening to the park music as I stroll around looking at the smiling faces. That is just a few of the things that will keep me coming back to Disney. Now I do like Harry Potter so I did have to visit Uni for 1 day and see that park and it was stunning. Do I have to go back? No, unless they add something really new to it. Uni just does not have the same atmosphere as Disney where it will attract me day in and day out.
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And I still tend to favor Disney too but I have to say I am fond of Universal and their resorts and I am more fond of Uni's transportation for guests, ease similar to Disneyland. Me I could no more visit Potterland just once, I find it beyond creative than I could only visit, Splash, Thunder or the HM just once.

My point was more to why many of our children are happy with their experience at Uni. Not all of course but I like @figmentfan423 was surprised kinda by how much my then kids were willing to have have fun and enjoy Uni. My kids were raised Disney and I can say they are not overly impressed with updated attractions at Disney that is simply slapping an IP on it and calling it new. They were kids of the 90's and early 2000's when Disney was launching something new all the time. Uni is just picking up where Disney left off.
 
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Dinglehopper86

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Gabe1 said:
And I still tend to favor Disney too but I have to say I am fond of Universal and their resorts and I am more fond of Uni's transportation for guests, ease similar to Disneyland. Me I could no more visit Potterland just once, I find it beyond creative than I could only visit, Splash, Thunder or the HM just once.

My point was more to why many of our children are happy with their experience at Uni. Not all of course but I like @figmentfan423 was surprised kinda by how much my then kids were willing to have have fun and enjoy Uni. My kids were raised Disney and I can say they are not overly impressed with updated attractions at Disney that is simply slapping an IP on it and calling it new. They were kids of the 90's and early 2000's when Disney was launching something new all the time. Uni is just picking up where Disney left off.
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I will go back to Uni for HP again when they add something new. I have never stayed at a Uni Resort so I cannot comment on that, but my experiences at Disney Resorts have always been extremely pleasant.

I was also a kid in the 90's and I agree Disney was on the ball back then. Now they seem to have lost it when it comes to new ideas. Kids who frequent WDW/DL every year have to get bored with it. I myself could not even do that. I have only been to WDW three times in my life and they were all after the age of 21. My parents were not really into vacations to amusement parks. If a child does come into my life I will not take them every year. Instead I will expose them to many different vacation spots. That way when we do go back to Disney Parks it won't be all the same things.
 
MOXOMUMD

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Songbird76 said:
I want to go back to Uni just for the HP stuff someday. I'm a HUGE HP fan and I did the London studio tour and went through London and Lacock to see all the HP sites, like Platform 9 3/4, Godric's Hollow, etc. I went to Universal when Hogsmeade had JUST opened a month before and it was just too crowded. My kids were 2 and 4, so they were too small for any of the rides, the SHORTEST wait time was to get into Honeydukes...15 minutes...for a store. I've NEVER heard of a wait time for a store at Disney. To get into the main shop where all the regular souvenirs are sold it was 45 minutes to an hour. The Forbidden Journey ride was 3 hours, Ollivanders was 90 minutes. We got there before 10 am and Hogsmeade was already at capacity, so they told us they could put us on the waiting list, but it would be about 3-4 hours, OR we could come back at 3 or 4 in the afternoon and then usually people could get in. So we came back in the afternoon and we got in, but those were the wait times. I didn't really get to do anything. I couldn't stand in line for 3 hours, or even for 90 minutes with 2 munchkins. We had a butterbeer, got some postcards to send, went through...must have been Dervish and Bangs? where I got clobbered trying to look at the wands...it was just too packed in there..wasn't room to swing a kneazle. And then we went home. I ended up not even getting a wand because I couldn't get close enough and as soon as I would get near the wands, someone would come from behind, push me out of the way, or jump up above me to look and come crashing down on my head...it wasn't worth it. I was completely disappointed with it, having traveled over seas to see it and not really getting to DO anything. They just didn't anticipate the crowd size it would generate and they made it way too small. I'm glad they've added Diagon Alley now, and I'd really like to see it, but my kids are still a bit young and have only made it through movie 4 and book number 1. I didn't want them to see spoilers, which they would have if we had gone there this summer. So we opted not to do it this time. Hopefully I can talk my husband into another trip in 5-10 years and then we can do WWoHP. The only good thing was that the people we were staying with complained to Universal and they gave me a free wand. So I HAVE a wand....I just would have liked to choose it myself...or better yet, do the Ollivander experience and have it choose ME. Maybe next time.
But the rest of Universal I can skip. Most of it holds no interest for me, and I don't do coasters.
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SWWs always had a wait to get in to buy the new merch.
 
ajrwdwgirl

ajrwdwgirl

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Gabe1 said:

I look at @figmentfan423 comment about kids liking Uni better and yours about slipping away slightly differently.
Early on Uni wasn't very appealing to Disney fans, many went once and others hated the Uni Parks without ever stepping foot in the competitions parks. My kids never had the opportunity to like Uni better, we arrived in the Disney Bubble and stayed put. It has become difficult for most to rag on the Uni parks now. Some of their attractions are awesome and they have the ability to build quickly which keeps drawing guests back.

While the new Fantasyland is beautiful the new attractions are hardly a GRAB for preteens and teens. Even Dwarf while creative with the true Disney flair it is short, kinda tame and difficult to get on with FPs and standby waits. So my take is more the kids are just lately being exposed to an alternative theme park experience that prior their parents would never consider allowing (like with my Kids they were brought up Disney.) If it wasn't for my School Board convention a decade ago who knows when we would have left the Bubble.
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When I was a pre-teen/teen we went to Universal a couple times (before Islands of Adventure was built). It was okay, but we preferred Disney more. And now-a-days I am just more connected to Disney characters and storytelling and not so much to Universal owned characters and stories. I'm sure Universal is very nice, but I just want to stay in the bubble.
 
ajrwdwgirl

ajrwdwgirl

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MinnieM123 said:
Read on CNN and Fox news later today that the 4 guys made up the story. Still shaking my head over that one . . . :rolleyes:
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I heard that on the news tonight. Isn't it a disgrace?! And like my hubby said, if they had never lied in the first place no one probably would have known about them and their trashing of a bathroom as it seems the owner got his payment that night.

A disgrace that they would trash and wreck property, and another one that they would lie about it. Not good role models for kids at all.
 

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