The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Same, I just want to see if it tastes good (aka being curious).

anyway, like I had said a few times. The best burger I had was a simple big ground beef burger with fresh bread in a sports bar in vancouver near the airport.
I had never remotely close to that anywhere I went (that includes WDW and Houston and Pittsburgh). I guess I need to search a proper place to get a burger that is not fast food.

River Grill

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ratherbeinwdw

Well-Known Member
FYI.... Disney has metal detectors for the people coming into EPCOT without bags but no other park did.
My husband and son were picked to go through the metal detector without bags in every park. We had to go through the detectors every single day in at least one park every day. I had to go through four times in one day. Twice in MK and at the front and back of Epcot. It got to the point of being agrevating. If everyone was going through, it wouldn't have bothered me. It really is a joke the way they do it.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
It was a really good trip. However, it was so hot, we had to go back to the room for a break every day. We went to uni four times. I finally rode Jurassic Park. It was fun, but the drop was unexpectedly high. I looked it up, afterward, and it's 85 feet. Splash is only 52 feet. You do get soaked. I recommend a poncho. I bought some cute little zip up shoe covers that I wore when it rained and on the wet rides. It was great not to have to walk around in wet shoes.

Did you just return? (I came back Weds. night.) Although the heat was high in the afternoons, the mornings weren't too bad for the most part, and I didn't think the humidity was an issue until Weds. Anyway, I hate heat and I always get out of the sun every afternoon when I'm down there, too. So you're not the only one! :)
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
When I was in the busing business (retired about 5 years ago) the safety rules dictated that ecv riders must sit in a seat and not on the ecv. The reason is that generally anyone able to mount and dismount an ecv has a degree of mobility. Also, at the time, there was no effective way to secure the person via seat belt when an ecv was used, so, it was a requirement for us. They must use a seat and not stay on the machine. If the bus had to stop quickly or had a crash, it would be a real mess. ECV's also have a tendency to be top heavy with a person on board. Unlike wheelchairs that have a wide wheel base an ecv has a very narrow one, so sometimes even regular cornering could flip it on it's side

Interesting comments you mentioned, and thank you for sharing your experiences with this topic. All I can guess is that the rules must differ from state to state. I looked up our transit system's rules for wheeled mobility devices on the buses, and the bus driver is required to attach 4 securement straps (for wheelchairs), and 3 securement straps for scooters (ECVs), to the frame of the wheeled mobility device. The passenger remains seated in either the wheelchair or ECV for the duration of the ride.

(I put a picture below of one of our city buses, showing the folded up seat for the wheeled mobility devices, and the red, securement straps. (In front, to the right, you'll see a black shaded area--that is a 2-3 foot square, black block, about 3 1/2 feet high, and it is directly behind the bus driver's partition. Not sure if that is some sort of safety barricade for the driver, in case one of those scooters, for example, got loose--which I highly doubt would ever happen.) By the way, I've never seen anyone not give up their seat for a handicapped person; most people I've seen on public transit have compassion, and I've been riding the system for many, many years.

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MinnieM123

Premium Member
FYI.... Disney has metal detectors for the people coming into EPCOT without bags but no other park did.

I wasn't impressed with the "random" screening of people. Until they get enough of those detectors and screen everyone, I honestly believe (speaking for myself only here) that it's just theater. By the way, 3 days I was not randomly selected; one day I was randomly selected twice. :rolleyes:
 

ratherbeinwdw

Well-Known Member
Did you just return? (I came back Weds. night.) Although the heat was high in the afternoons, the mornings weren't too bad for the most part, and I didn't think the humidity was an issue until Weds. Anyway, I hate heat and I always get out of the sun every afternoon when I'm down there, too. So you're not the only one! :)
Yes. We got back last night.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Interesting comments you mentioned, and thank you for sharing your experiences with this topic. All I can guess is that the rules must differ from state to state. I looked up our transit system's rules for wheeled mobility devices on the buses, and the bus driver is required to attach 4 securement straps (for wheelchairs), and 3 securement straps for scooters (ECVs), to the frame of the wheeled mobility device. The passenger remains seated in either the wheelchair or ECV for the duration of the ride.

(I put a picture below of one of our city buses, showing the folded up seat for the wheeled mobility devices, and the red, securement straps. (In front, to the right, you'll see a black shaded area--that is a 2-3 foot square, black block, about 3 1/2 feet high, and it is directly behind the bus driver's partition. Not sure if that is some sort of safety barricade for the driver, in case one of those scooters, for example, got loose--which I highly doubt would ever happen.) By the way, I've never seen anyone not give up their seat for a handicapped person; most people I've seen on public transit have compassion, and I've been riding the system for many, many years.

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The red straps that you can see are to secure the wheelchair or ECV... the long one that you can see draped across the seat on the right is the over shoulder belt for the passenger. However, it only worked in a satisfactory fashion for those in a stationary chair whereas a person on a ECV was basically free standing with no other support other then the single belt. That left a lot of room for falling out of it. I'm not sure if it was state law, federal law or just something that our insurance company dictated, I really don't remember. I do remember hammering the procedure into the heads of new drivers over and over and over. A wheelchair passenger could refuse the belt and assume their own responsibility if injured, but, the ECV passenger was not given the choice.

The area just behind the driver is for the protection of the driver. Some of the wonderful public get enjoyment out of throwing things at the driver to get their attention. In many, cities, the drivers are completely closed in for their protection.
 

betty rose

Well-Known Member
That is kind of my horror scenario!! I wouldn't want to do that. I can't function on so little sleep, which is why I planned ours the way I did. If -I- can't function, no way could the kids. I want them to see everything they want to see, but it's not worth it if we can't enjoy it. Hopefully there will be more trips in the future and they can catch anything they miss this time on a different trip.
It is a horror scenario. I dread this every year. Next year, we will have dinner and go to the room. Nothing else. I'm getting to old to just keep going. I need an energizer bunny for this trip!
 

ratherbeinwdw

Well-Known Member
All week the stories on the news were about the long lines at airport security. They kept saying be at least three hours early. So, we got up at 5:30 to get my son and his gf on the plane to LA. They got packed, and we got them to the airport by 7. We dropped them in the garage by the elevator. Before we even got back to AoA, to pack our stuff to drive home, they called to let us know they were already through security. That was like 20 minutes from garage through security. I don't know if it was because they were so early or because it was Sunday. Either way, they didn't have to stand in line for three hours. I did have a hard time driving home after going to bed so late and getting up so early. Did anyone there last week have to wait an extra long time at the airport?
 

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