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ajrwdwgirl

ajrwdwgirl

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Songbird76 said:
Yeah, I think most of my mother's problem with the ELCA was the communion issue because they have open communion and my mom was against that. But over here, there's no separate denomination, it's just Lutheran. Open communion never bothered me, and the Lutheran church here does open. Or...at least we did when we still had a Lutheran church where I live, but they merged with the Protestant Church of the Netherlands about...8 years ago? It was after DS was born...he was the last child to be baptized into the Lutheran church, the week before they closed down. I think it also depends on the pastor and how he approaches it. We had one pastor in my home town who was very negative about the ELCA...we didn't have an ELCA church in our town and there was a family who moved in from North Dakota who had been ELCA and my mom (next door neighbors) invited them to our church. They joined and the daughter was at a bible study...she was only like 15, and a couple of the members ganged up on her and told her that she was lucky she moved to our town so she'd be saved, because the ELCA beliefs were heresy and she would see it after she had been there for a while. The girl never came back to our church, and I certainly can't blame her. But it pretty much comes down to the fact that the pastor had taught that and so, trusting in the leader's biblical training, etc, the members passed that message on. Very very sad. But I've never really understood the differences between MSL, ELCA, and ALC. I know they all branched off from each other, and that ELCA and ALC offer open communion, but beyond that, I have no idea what the theological differences are.
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It is kind of strange how religion branches of from one another. I will say that when some people from the MSL switched to our church before the MSL church closed, some of the people switching to our church got sent nasty letters from their old pastor condemning them and what not. And some of the questions the switchers asked my husband were crazy. Not to get all religious or anything...but one question my husband got was "So the ELCA does believe that Jesus is the savior because we were told the ELCA does believe in Jesus." It was kind of a shocking to hear, as this belief seems to be kind of the basis for every Christian denomination. So it is interesting sometimes to read up on the differences of the different Christian beliefs. But enough talk about religion....
 
ajrwdwgirl

ajrwdwgirl

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Songbird76 said:
No! I didn't know that! Guess I will have to look it up! Did you read it? Was it good?
I never read Judy Blume...I think that might have been when there was all the controversy about her books, in particular Are You There, God, it's Me, Margaret. I've kind of always wanted to go back and read them and see what all the fuss is about.
If you've never read Nora Roberts and you like Sandra Brown, you might try some Nora...they are very similar..in fact some of the books I get mixed up as to which one wrote what. I could come close to filling a book case just with those 2 authors if I only did single rows, but I have so many books that I have to double it up and stack some on top, and I already have 2 whole bookcases of my own, just MY books.
I'm sure Moby **** appeals to some people...it's a classic for a reason, right? I just HATED it. I kept falling asleep, and having to go back and read things over, but I just could not absorb it, even after reading 4 or 5 times. And it's very wordy....lots of TELLING instead of SHOWING. But some people apparently love it. Sometimes I wonder if I hadn't HAD to read it for school if I would have like it...but then, I read Wuthering Heights in school having loved Jane Eyre (different Bronte sister, but always compared) and couldn't follow it. I tried twice in later years to get through it and still can't, so I figure it's best relegated to the "Nope, not for me" section. Perhaps if a copy of Moby **** landed in my lap for free, I might start it and see if it is really as boring as I remember it being, but I won't waste any money on it, just in case.
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I have read some Nora Roberts. I do like her stuff too. I have read some of her JD Robb stuff too, and that is okay. I did read the Sweet Valley High adult book, and it was pretty good. It was interesting to see how the author continued the girls' story into adulthood.

Yeah, I don't think I would read Moby even if was a free copy. Maybe if I was stranded on a deserted island and that's all I had. I never could get into the Bronte or Austen stuff either.
 
donaldtoo

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MOXOMUMD said:
Try living in the country where you have well water. That's what my sister has. :depressed:
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My grandparents never had well water, it was all rainwater collected in cisterns.
There were underground ones that were outside by the tractor and car barns where the drinking water was collected. There was a galvanized bucket with a ladle that sat on a stand in the kitchen that we drank out of. I remember going out to the pump, to prime it with the little bit of water left in the bucket, and bring back another full one. Even in the heat of summer, that water was always so cool and clear. And, to this day, I can still honestly say that it was the best water I've ever tasted in my life...! :hungry: :happy:
 
StarWarsGirl

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Cesar R M said:
Wow,why its always has to do with the "us vs them" mentality?
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It wasn't even that. The OP posted, and a bunch of us were like, "Not this again, please," and the OP got all offended, and one thing led to another and it turned into basically people bashing one another. I was trying very hard to bite my tongue while reading that thread. I used memes and pictures the few times I posted mostly because saying what I was thinking probably would not have been a good thing
 
Gabe1

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Songbird76 said:
Well, I read that someone DID go check on him, but it sounds like most of the group had already left by then? I can see it...they didn't mention anything about family being there. And if these were just hunting buddies, they might not know him well enough to realize they should check on him. My dad will be 83 in a month...about a year and a half ago, he had some friends in to go hunting on his ranch, like he has every year. He took a group out and started feeling funny, lost feeling in his left side, his speech went wonky, and they asked him if they should take him to the doctor...he said no, it had happened before and was always over in about half an hour or so, and sometimes his left leg was a bit slow to recover, but other than that he felt fine. The hunting buddies said ok, and went about their hunting. A few weeks later, he gets a bloody nose that lasts for 4 days and he almost blacks out. Finally gets someone to come and pick him up and take him to the doctor. Treated and released, and no one mentions these episodes he's been having where his left side goes numb and he can't walk or talk or write, etc. A few days later, he's at the bank and has another episode and the lady at the bank doesn't ask him what he wants, she just calls an ambulance...he'd been having mini-strokes for 6 months and no one ever paid much attention even if they were with him when he had one. It's not that they didn't care, just that they didn't realize how serious it was. If Scalia went to bed saying he didn't feel well, how are they to know that "I don't feel well" isn't just "I think I'm coming down with the flu that's going around"? And what's the first thing we tell people when they think they are coming down with something? Go get some rest..the best thing for being sick is to sleep. So if they all thought he obviously needed the rest, the last thing they are going to do is go wake him up for recreation. They probably all thought "Let him sleep....he can come with us tomorrow." and asked someone at the hotel or wherever to go and check on him if he wasn't up by such and such a time.
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I guess my brain doesn't operate that way, I look for medical explanations and the amount of time over the last decade I've spent in hospitals with my Dad and FIL and rehab centers from various surgeries, my Dad would be long Dead twice, once complete blockage of heart and the other gall bladder jaundice, they rolled him immediately into surgery. Both times wishy washy as I called paramedics. My FIL would not have lived another 10 years after a fall/bleeding of brain. Me I just could not leave and not check in on someone who wasn't well and was expected to be up and about with us. We also had my MIL go missing in the mist and after 3 hours we had a Silver Alert APB out on her (elderly-Amber type alert) and when the police finally found her she was in the middle of the state on the Wisconsin Border a year and half ago. No clue as to where she was but ran out of gas in middle of the road. The police ran the plate and the Silver Alert popped up. I just tend to run on the precautionary side. Guess that is just how I'm wired.

As for Scalia he was hunting with men he knew for years, one especially for over 20 years both in Mississippi and elsewhere. It is sad to see a man with such a strong mind pass. Kinda cool he was still mentally strong enough to travel and still hunt at that age. There were US Marshals there, they have training as first responders. So close yet so far away I guess. While I really disagreed with the man on many of his professional views I had a lot of respect for his thought process and his convictions. He lived life and had an amazing one. I just try to block out the hunting thing.
 
Wrangler-Rick

Wrangler-Rick

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StarWarsGirl95 said:
It wasn't even that. The OP posted, and a bunch of us were like, "Not this again, please," and the OP got all offended, and one thing led to another and it turned into basically people bashing one another. I was trying very hard to bite my tongue while reading that thread. I used memes and pictures the few times I posted mostly because saying what I was thinking probably would not have been a good thing
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Yeah, you could just see early on where it was headed....
 

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