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MinnieM123

Premium Member
I know some don't believe in snow tires but it makes a world of difference having snow tires when encounters snow and the dreaded ice. I don't need it now but when in those climates years ago we were some of the few that had them. The way to go is to stay home but some have to get to work or other matters in wintry road conditions.
This!

In my work experience (regardless of employer) we were all expected to show up -- period, and that included whatever tires were on the car, or whatever public transportation we were taking. Many people were late, but everyone needed to report. And regardless of nowadays where some people can work remotely during inclement weather, many people do not have that option, for various reasons.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
I honestly think she doesn't believe I'm important enough to be scheduled. I also think she thinks she's my boss. So we're going to have a little calm and professional conversation clarifying that neither one is the case and that if this situation isn't working, I'll be discussing it with my actual boss. :angelic:
Bingo -- your first sentence says it all. She sounds like a horror show -- and I've known some bosses (temporary or not) who were awful. I think Lilofan had some good advice for you on this one.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Snow tyres don't make a difference on ice.
That is true; they only make a difference in the snow. No tires work on ice. -- except, studded tires. They're actually legal in my state from the end of November to April 1.

Price range for studded tires runs from $100 - $150 per tire, for a compact car. For an SUV or light-duty pickup, it would run $200 - $400 per tire. I've read that some people use 2 studded tires only, while others use all 4 studded tires.
 

Mr Ferret 75

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
Premium Member
That is true; they only make a difference in the snow. No tires work on ice. -- except, studded tires. They're actually legal in my state from the end of November to April 1.

Price range for studded tires runs from $100 - $150 per tire, for a compact car. For an SUV or light-duty pickup, it would run $200 - $400 per tire. I've read that some people use 2 studded tires only, while others use all 4 studded tires.
If you have a front wheel drive car rear studded tyres are redundant.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I met a guy who lived in Florence SC. One freak storm brought 5 inches of snow and that part of the state closed down.
It doesn't take anywhere near that much snow in the "south" to shut things down completely. We had a 10" snow storm the day after Christmas in 2010 when I was here spending the holidays with my family. I had billions of dollars of highways and streets all to myself. The following winter, after I moved here, we had a little over half and inch and it was the same reaction. The schools were closed for a week.
 

Lilofan

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Snow tyres don't make a difference on ice.
Snow tires are made of softer compound material and thereby better on ice. Is it a sure fire way to drive on ice without anything happening ? No . One guy I know survived a winter in NY by driving on summer tires. He drove on them in his new car because the tires came with the car from the factory. Not a smart idea to take that chance.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I know some don't believe in snow tires but it makes a world of difference having snow tires when encounters snow and the dreaded ice. I don't need it now but when in those climates years ago we were some of the few that had them. The way to go is to stay home but some have to get to work or other matters in wintry road conditions.
There are no tire types that make any difference on ice, not even studded are much help and it doesn't matter how many wheel drive one has. Ice will win every time.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
There are no tire types that make any difference on ice, not even studded are much help and it doesn't matter how many wheel drive one has. Ice will win every time.
Just read (various sources) that dispute that.

However, there does seem to be ongoing debates about studded tires. You're a well-seasoned, professional driver -- have you used them in the past, and they didn't work for you? (just curious only) Plus, you've driven large buses, and have a lot of driving experience in snow.


Anyway, below is (one of the) many points I found in a general Google search (bolded part was their emphasis, not mine) --

If you drive more on icy roads than on snowy ones in winter, studded tires are the choice for you. Studded tires are especially suitable if you live near the coast, where roads tend to be icy during the winter. Non-studded winter tires are a good choice for snowy roads.
 

Songbird76

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My aunt and I had this conversation after my grandma last stayed with her...
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So it's NOT just my MIL who does this?? It drove me crazy!! And when I asked her to stop, she said "But it's so much handier this way!!" No....no it's not. She put all the things that I use daily in a closet in the entrance hallway and moved things from the pantry into the cupboards that I never use. It took me weeks to find everything!
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
Nursing school is officially over! 🎉 Passed with a 3.5+

State test should be late next month.

Booked 2 nights at WDW next week for my bday. Our anniversary cruise is 4 days after we get back.

Reading stories and getting spooked about getting covid at WDW and missing the cruise.

Obviously it’s possible, but we are very careful. We’re staying in a cabin vs. a hotel. We’re only doing 1 park day, and it will be mostly Epcot for food & wine (outdoors) plus a hop to HS to see Julie at Tune-In, and the since it’s open really late, possibly MK at night.

We’ll wear KN95 masks indoors & on indoor attractions/queues but probably won’t even go on too many. Targeting: Ratatouille, CoP, and whatever is available as a walk-on at MK at night.

Had no issues in New Orleans with a similar strategy. But considering canceling WDW to protect the cruise. Thoughts?
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Just read (various sources) that dispute that.

However, there does seem to be ongoing debates about studded tires. You're a well-seasoned, professional driver -- have you used them in the past, and they didn't work for you? (just curious only) Plus, you've driven large buses, and have a lot of driving experience in snow.


Anyway, below is (one of the) many points I found in a general Google search (bolded part was their emphasis, not mine) --

If you drive more on icy roads than on snowy ones in winter, studded tires are the choice for you. Studded tires are especially suitable if you live near the coast, where roads tend to be icy during the winter. Non-studded winter tires are a good choice for snowy roads.
They might help to keep one on the road as long as nothing happens. Touch the brakes even lightly and you will be in a ditch just like regular tires. Any unplanned movement will be trouble. Driving slowly on icy roads may work but you are not in control on ice. Only ourselves think we are in control but that control can disappear in a New York minute. Studded tires might help you dig your way down to pavement but all the conditions have to be just right. Otherwise, the only safe thing is to stay off the roads until sand or salt trucks have had a chance to get through. Sometimes tire chains might be helpful but they are hard to find and even harder to put on. On top of that many states have outlawed studded tires due to the damage they have done to the asphalt so if you are going to travel that could create a problem. Snow is forgiving, ice is not.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
Nursing school is officially over! 🎉 Passed with a 3.5+

State test should be late next month.

Booked 2 nights at WDW next week for my bday. Our anniversary cruise is 4 days after we get back.

Reading stories and getting spooked about getting covid at WDW and missing the cruise.

Obviously it’s possible, but we are very careful. We’re staying in a cabin vs. a hotel. We’re only doing 1 park day, and it will be mostly Epcot for food & wine (outdoors) plus a hop to HS to see Julie at Tune-In, and the since it’s open really late, possibly MK at night.

We’ll wear KN95 masks indoors & on indoor attractions/queues but probably won’t even go on too many. Targeting: Ratatouille, CoP, and whatever is available as a walk-on at MK at night.

Had no issues in New Orleans with a similar strategy. But considering canceling WDW to protect the cruise. Thoughts?
I swear I will never understand those weird scores they use in many countries that makes no sense.

Example, grading from 1 to 4.
Why?
Using A B C D E when it could be just as easy to use 0 to 100.
Every certain group tries to differentiate themselves by inventing new grading idiocy. Example.. english exams worldwide.
Some are 1 to 7, others 1 to 11. WHY????

As for COVID, why not do the opposite? first the cruise then WDW.
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
I swear I will never understand those weird scores they use in many countries that makes no sense.

Example, grading from 1 to 4.
Why?
Using A B C D E when it could be just as easy to use 0 to 100.
Every certain group tries to differentiate themselves by inventing new grading idiocy. Example.. english exams worldwide.
Some are 1 to 7, others 1 to 11. WHY????

As for COVID, why not do the opposite? first the cruise then WDW.
To be even more confusing, my high school used 1-4 in backwards order - so a 1 was the best! College admissions departments had trouble with that. I was a straight 1 student lol.

Re: WDW: my bday is next Wednesday. We thought we’d do a quick visit for that. The cruise is for our anniversary 9/8.
 

Figgy1

Well-Known Member
@Tony the Tigger
Celebrate In Love GIF by HBO Max
to Brian. Wish you were closer I got a bushel of eggplants this weekend
 

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