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John park hopper

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When I traveled to Central and South America, while milk is expensive, a number of people drink a powered milk item called "Klim". It's made by Nestle. It's sold in ethnic grocery stores in the USA.
Never heard of Klim just looked it up seems to be sold every where. Back when my boys were young and drinking milk like crazy the price of milk sky rocketed so we used half powdered milk and whole milk to cut the cost. Mixed with a little Hersey's chocolate they never knew the difference
 

Songbird76

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I have a grandson that only ate Mac & Cheese, Chicken Fingers and Taco's with just meat and cheese until he was 18 and started noticing girls and decided that if he was going to do any dating he had better expand his culinary tastes. I also have a granddaughter that would eat different things differently. Pancakes, plain no butter, syrup or any other topping, Spaghetti plain, no sauce, no butter, just cooked pasta. Cereal dry only. There were other things as well but to numerous to remember. That lasted until she was around 16 and also decided she needed to expand the old taste buds.

Things have changed, I guess. When I was growing up and when my kids were growing up, they had a choice, eat what was cooked or go without. We were to busy trying to survive to make special meals for anyone. Your choices were only what was placed in front of you, nothing else. I don't remember having more then one problem with that and that was when my oldest decided that she wouldn't eat peas. We had a useless confrontation over it that nobody won! She continued to not eat them until one day, back when we had a small garden out back, I was sitting there eating peas directly out of the pods and she thought that was interesting and tried one. Peas have been her favorite since that day. The only time that I broke that rule for them was when their mother tried to feed them Liver and Onions and that is something that I won't eat. I got in trouble for not backing her on that item, but I couldn't see myself forcing my kids to eat something that I found disgusting. My wife used to eat things that were just odd to me. The one that I did try was cow tongue. I choked it down a couple of times before I just requested that not be included on any future menus. When we had that I wasn't sure if I was licking my lips or my dinner was. I am usually up for anything once except slimy stuff like oysters and snail. I've even tried pigs ears which, not surprisingly is mostly cartilage and rubbery like calamari and rubber bands. Certainly not a culinary delight.
Well, I'm a really picky eater, but I have nothing on my son. When I was growing up, food was a battleground and I refuse to make it that way for my kids. It only did harm for me. There was no option to just not eat that meal. You ate what my mother put in front of you, and you ate as much of it as she wanted you to eat, and don't you dare make faces or say you don't like it. Dinner time became a huge anxiety trigger for me and to this day, I get apprehensive about eating at someone's home, because it was so ingrained in my head that I wasn't allowed to not like something....it was rude. Someone took the time and energy to make a meal for you, and you'd better show your appreciation. And I do get that, but I also think it's a bad idea to pretend to like something when you don't. You shouldn't have to exclaim how great something is when you can barely choke it down. It's ok not to like everything and it's ok to say "No, thank you". And my mom would get angry if we went to a fast food place (pre-chicken nugget days) when I would order my burger plain and they forgot and put mustard and ketchup on it anyway and I would want her to take it back. She wouldn't do it. I still had to eat it. I'm a firm believer in if I ordered it and paid for it, it better be what I ordered. If it's not, you are making me a new one the way I ordered it. My mother would just get angry with me for not liking it and force me to eat it so she didn't have to go to the trouble of getting a new one. I won't do that to my kids. I know that anxiety and the fear of trying new things because I wasn't allowed to say I didn't like it, and I was going to have to eat it regardless. I'm in my 40s and just now getting to the point where I can try something new, knowing no one is going to be mad at me or force me to eat it if I don't like it. I can't expect more out of my kids than I'm willing to expect of myself, so I treat them like I wish I had been treated. And my mom was so hypocritical! She wouldn't eat things she didn't like, wouldn't try something new if it contained something she didn't like. My husband made a traditional Dutch meal for her and first she ridiculed him, then refused to take even a bite of it. If I'd have done that, she'd have tanned my hide!

My daughter has mostly grown out of her pickiness and she's willing to try new things. She knows it's safe. A hasn't really gotten that far, but I hope he will eventually.
 

Songbird76

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My mom made me eat pickled beets once and I think I gagged doing it so much I never had to again. I think because I was the youngest I got away with being a little more picky than my sister. We were allowed to not take food but we had to eat what we took, but I got away with picking out the celery and onions from my potato salad and macaroni salads as I didn't and still don't like crunchy stuff in that food. Maybe it helped that my mom and dad liked the celery and onions so I would pick it out and give it to them so then they had more!

Also when my dad was diagnosed with high cholesterol my mom immediately started cutting out our high fat foods, which she should have but we always had milk with our dinner and we switched right away from whole milk to skim milk, there was no using up the whole milk and a gradual shift to the skim. The day of our switch she wouldn't let us leave the table until we drank the whole glass of skim milk, it tasted so gross to us. We eventually got used to it but it was a rough switch at first. :cool:

I think it helped that my mom was a good cook so there wasn't much that we didn't want to eat although I didn't care for her scalloped potatoes with canned tuna, but I still ate it because I wanted my nightly treat.
Oh man, my mom would get furious at me for gagging. I swear, sometimes she delighted in giving me more of the foods she knew I hated to teach me a lesson. And what's stupid is that most of the things I didn't like were the things that were really bad for me anyway. I LOVED vegetables. Broccoli, spinach, green beans, brussells sprouts, carrots, cauliflower, squash, asperagus....almost anything. I did not like fried zucchini because it was slimy. (Now it's one of my favorites) And I didn't like raw tomatoes or cucumbers, and I don't like green peppers, though I recently discovered I'm ok with red....they aren't my favorite, but I'll eat them. The things I don't like are like...condiments. Butter (unless it's melted...melted is fine), mustard, ketchup, mayo, pickle rellish. So things like potato salad or egg salad...nope. I don't like the texture of boiled eggs, so I won't eat those. Coleslaw....blech. But none of those things are healthy except those few veggies, and since I ate all the others, it shouldn't have been a big deal. Why force feed me unhealthy food when I ate the healthier things without issue? It made no sense. She never had to fight me on fruits and veggies. But go to a BBQ with friends, and the friend brought potato salad, I HAD to eat the potato salad, even though I ate a burger or hotdog and a large helping of fruit salad and some carrots, etc. Like, do you WANT me to be obese and get heart disease? I still don't understand why it was such a huge deal to her. She just had to be in control of me, even if it wasn't in my best interest.
 

Songbird76

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Adventures in baking with Susan this morning.... I decided I wanted chocolate walnut biscotti... so I started looking up recipes.... found one I liked, mixed it up... and it was a bit dryer than it should have been, but I went with it... got it in the oven... took a shower... was on my way back downstairs and realized.... ummmm I didn't put any sugar in these?!!? UGH! Took them out of the oven... and mixed up the 2nd batch with the sugar this time... they are in the oven now... fingers crossed.

p.s. so I thought.. well they have chocolate chips in them.. maybe I can just do a chocolate drizzle and the first batch will be ok.... I sliced the end off and had a taste... at first I was like... yeah these could be ok... but as I kept chewing... I was like... yeah no... these will not be ok... and in the trash they went!
This Susan did that once with zucchini bread. Forgot to put in the sugar....fortunately I realized it when they had been in the oven for only a few seconds, because it just wasn't the right consistency, so I was going through the ingredients. I just took it out, mixed in the sugar and put it back in. I also forgot the cream once that you are supposed to mix in with the melted white chocolate for a cheesecake. That one was too late to fix, so I just made a 2nd one, in case the first didn't turn out....didn't need to bother. It was fine. But hey, then I had an extra cheesecake....happy little mistake!

I hope your second batch turned out!!
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
I grew up on junk food and lucky I take after my mom who was always thin there was not a time I can remember when we didn't have dessert or cookies or chocolate in the house. My poor wife has been battling the weight issue with one diet after another and has found she cannot eat processed carbs. She has been eating nothing but fresh veggies, fruit and various beans (protein), and fish no meat. She has lost 25 lbs (looks great) and has more energy, got to give her credit no way could I live without my junk food.

Wow congrats to her! I have had cut been considerably on junk food but I still crave it so I can't give it up. I couldn't give up meat either. I used to love to bake but now I rarely bake because of the high carbs. I miss it though, not necessarily eating but the baking part. I do give people a lot of credit who have the will power to stick to such healthy diets.
 

donaldtoo

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Wow! Good for you! Fifteen pounds is a lot of weight to drop. Hard to believe that beer has so many calories (I don't drink beer). But I certainly eat my share of tasty treats, that have plenty of empty calories. :cautious:

Thanks, Minnie...!!! :)
Yep, unfortunately, beer is A LOT of empty calories, and I’m not a fan of “light” beer...!!!!! :geek::hilarious:
Also, just like last time when I lost a bunch of weight (also cut way back on the beer), my sweet tooth has reared it’s ugly head...just had to have an M&M DQ Blizzard last night for a snack...!!!!! :hungry::hilarious:

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Figgy1

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Never heard of Klim just looked it up seems to be sold every where. Back when my boys were young and drinking milk like crazy the price of milk sky rocketed so we used half powdered milk and whole milk to cut the cost. Mixed with a little Hersey's chocolate they never knew the difference
I have no clue how much milk costs.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
*raises hand* Yep, that's me!!
My DD. She was a frequent flier Club member at our ER rooms. I actually alternated ER rooms. Only once did she hurt herself at home. Friends, school, daycare And sports. I always brought the incident Reports with me to ER rooms so we could skip the interrogation of cause of injury.
 

Figgy1

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My DD. She was a frequent flier Club member at our ER rooms. I actually alternated ER rooms. Only once did she hurt herself at home. Friends, school, daycare And sports. I always brought the incident Reports with me to ER rooms so we could skip the interrogation of cause of injury.
A kid broke my older ds's wrist and the school sent him home without a report or even a phone call. That wasn't a fun evening in the ER for the first hour. We had to sign the releases and he was done with X Rays before we could see him. He didn't go back to that school ever. We were in the superintendent's office first thing the next morning. The teacher "retired" a couple of weeks later
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Some peers of mine bought at their own expense a mini fridge to safely store their food and drink. They stored it right underneath their cubicles next to the illegal space heaters brought from their home to warm their cold feet and legs in the winter. The five finger bandits would always steal peoples food in the main company fridge. These are adults in professional roles, not children😒
My son did this when he returned to his office after working from home. He also brought a new coffee pot. His Building just finished gutting the employee lunchroom with very nice appliances etc just before isolation started.

It was the Covid germ factor of commonly shared things like coffee and fridge. He has a fairly large private office so he now keeps his stuff in there cause ya know we’re germaphobic prior to the pandemic
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
A kid broke my older ds's wrist and the school sent him home without a report or even a phone call. That wasn't a fun evening in the ER for the first hour. We had to sign the releases and he was done with X Rays before we could see him. He didn't go back to that school ever. We were in the superintendent's office first thing the next morning. The teacher "retired" a couple of weeks later
Want to know the rest of this story.
 

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