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[StarWarsGirl]

@SteveBrickNJ and @StarWarsGirl , as fellow musicians whose first language is English, can you please give me your definition of "Solfege"? My daughter's music teacher seems to be lacking in the terminology department and he keeps using music terms incorrectly. Or, I am out of the loop since my college days and have no idea what I'm talking about. But one of us is wrong, and I'm pretty sure it's not me.

Do re mi fa so?

 

[wdwfan4ver]

I got lucky that got 2 appointments next week including one for a urologist. What happened was my new regular doctor wanted me to go to a urologist ASP and also to get an x-ray.

I called it lucky because the regular doctor's office was going to schedule me on April 1st for seeing a urologist at the medical building my new regular doctor is in. I ended getting an appointment outside of the medical building my regular doctor is located.

Since Thursday, I have been have problems off and on for bleeding. I do not have all signs of a kidney stone due to me not having back pain after going. What I am facing right now is one I can't wait till April.

I didn't have any pain, but I wanted it to be checked out. I had kidney stones in 2012 and a laser was needed remove them at the time due to the size of the kidney stone.

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Do re mi fa so?

 

[Songbird76]

Although I am a band director and I'm never using that term with my instrumental music students... I thought it was spelled Solfeggio and I thought it meant singing by assigning the first note of the scale as "do"...second note "re"...3rd note "mi"...4th note "fa", etc.

I've never heard the term "solfeggio" actually, but solfege is indeed the do-re-mi. Did you not do sight singing in college? All our music majors, both instrumental and vocal had to have 2 years of sight singing. It was part of Aural theory. I thought it was a standard thing, so I figured you'd know.

I'm a bit concerned about my daughter's music teacher. She's in a dual immersion program in which 60% of her classes are in English. Music is one of those classes. But she already speaks fluent English and she says her teacher's English is terrible and he's really hard to understand. ("Open your mouse" mouth. "One two tree") But last year, she asked me to quiz her on theory, and she handed me her book. It had a Treble Clef and it was labeled "Violin Clef". So I showed her a picture and asked what it was called, she said Violin Clef. I had NEVER heard it called that in English. So I asked all my music friends from college and even my Theory Professor, and I asked a professional musician in the UK just to make sure it wasn't a difference between British English and American English. I asked for every term they've ever heard for that symbol...no one had ever heard of a violin clef, and a google search of violin clef only came up with the Treble Clef being the one used for Violin. So I told my daughter that actually, that was incorrect, told her the correct term, and told her she might want to let the teacher know, because I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and assumed it's probably called violin clef in Dutch and he translated it literally instead of looking up the term in English. So she went to him and told him that her mom was American, and thus a native speaker and that she had a degree in music and that the term was actually Treble Clef. He said "Yes, it's sometimes called that, too." This year's book was edited to add Treble Clef as a 3rd term for it, after violin clef and G clef, but he can't admit that Violin Clef doesn't exist in the English language and insists it is the main term for it.

Then she came home after a test and said the test had 3 parts: Written Theory, Listening, and Solfege. I said "Oh! You're learning sight reading?" And she said no. And I was like..."But you said solfege." And she says yeah, that's one of the parts of the test. I told her solfege is do-re-mi...it's sight reading. She said that's not what her teacher calls solfege. So I asked her what he calls solfege. She says she doesn't really know, but it's not sight reading. So then she came home a few days ago and said she got a 9.6 on what he calls solfege. I asked her if she knew what it was now, and she said not really. She has to do written theory, has to do a listening section where he plays a part of a song and they have to tell him if it's Jazz or classical or pop, etc. And then there's the solfege and she mentioned something about him tapping out rhythms and they have to notate it, and something about finding differences in written notation and what he plays, so it sounds like Aural theory/notation maybe. But it's not solfege, whatever it is. I'm kind of thinking maybe I should look over her book and check what he's teaching them. He wrote the book himself, and he obviously isn't proficient in his English. It's not important in the grand scheme of things, except if they choose music as one of their subjects for the upper grades because then the test is made by a national pannel, not the teacher. So anything HE has it wrong, the kids will have wrong and it will count against them on the exam. And where he can't admit to making a mistake with the Treble Clef, I have to wonder what else he's got wrong. I can't blame him for making a mistake in his Engligh, but I can blame him for not being willing to correct it when he finds out he was wrong. But before I say he's wrong, I want to make sure that my other musician friends haven't heard of the terms in the context he is using....I want to make sure it is HIM that has it wrong and not me, because I certainly don't know everything. But so far, everyone agrees with me that they've never heard of a violin clef, and that solfege is a system of naming the notes in a scale for teaching sight reading. So I'm farely confident that it's not me.

 

[SteveBrickNJ]

I've never heard the term "solfeggio" actually, but solfege is indeed the do-re-mi. Did you not do sight singing in college? All our music majors, both instrumental and vocal had to have 2 years of sight singing. It was part of Aural theory. I thought it was a standard thing, so I figured you'd know.

I'm a bit concerned about my daughter's music teacher. She's in a dual immersion program in which 60% of her classes are in English. Music is one of those classes. But she already speaks fluent English and she says her teacher's English is terrible and he's really hard to understand. ("Open your mouse" mouth. "One two tree") But last year, she asked me to quiz her on theory, and she handed me her book. It had a Treble Clef and it was labeled "Violin Clef". So I showed her a picture and asked what it was called, she said Violin Clef. I had NEVER heard it called that in English. So I asked all my music friends from college and even my Theory Professor, and I asked a professional musician in the UK just to make sure it wasn't a difference between British English and American English. I asked for every term they've ever heard for that symbol...no one had ever heard of a violin clef, and a google search of violin clef only came up with the Treble Clef being the one used for Violin. So I told my daughter that actually, that was incorrect, told her the correct term, and told her she might want to let the teacher know, because I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and assumed it's probably called violin clef in Dutch and he translated it literally instead of looking up the term in English. So she went to him and told him that her mom was American, and thus a native speaker and that she had a degree in music and that the term was actually Treble Clef. He said "Yes, it's sometimes called that, too." This year's book was edited to add Treble Clef as a 3rd term for it, after violin clef and G clef, but he can't admit that Violin Clef doesn't exist in the English language and insists it is the main term for it.

Then she came home after a test and said the test had 3 parts: Written Theory, Listening, and Solfege. I said "Oh! You're learning sight reading?" And she said no. And I was like..."But you said solfege." And she says yeah, that's one of the parts of the test. I told her solfege is do-re-mi...it's sight reading. She said that's not what her teacher calls solfege. So I asked her what he calls solfege. She says she doesn't really know, but it's not sight reading. So then she came home a few days ago and said she got a 9.6 on what he calls solfege. I asked her if she knew what it was now, and she said not really. She has to do written theory, has to do a listening section where he plays a part of a song and they have to tell him if it's Jazz or classical or pop, etc. And then there's the solfege and she mentioned something about him tapping out rhythms and they have to notate it, and something about finding differences in written notation and what he plays, so it sounds like Aural theory/notation maybe. But it's not solfege, whatever it is. I'm kind of thinking maybe I should look over her book and check what he's teaching them. He wrote the book himself, and he obviously isn't proficient in his English. It's not important in the grand scheme of things, except if they choose music as one of their subjects for the upper grades because then the test is made by a national pannel, not the teacher. So anything HE has it wrong, the kids will have wrong and it will count against them on the exam. And where he can't admit to making a mistake with the Treble Clef, I have to wonder what else he's got wrong. I can't blame him for making a mistake in his Engligh, but I can blame him for not being willing to correct it when he finds out he was wrong. But before I say he's wrong, I want to make sure that my other musician friends haven't heard of the terms in the context he is using....I want to make sure it is HIM that has it wrong and not me, because I certainly don't know everything. But so far, everyone agrees with me that they've never heard of a violin clef, and that solfege is a system of naming the notes in a scale for teaching sight reading. So I'm farely confident that it's not me.

I also never heard of violin clef. As you obviously strongly know, it is treble clef. G Clef is just a nickname. Yes in the early 1980s I did solfege/solfeggio singing at West Chester University. It's been awhile since then

 

[SteveBrickNJ]

I've never heard the term "solfeggio" actually, but solfege is indeed the do-re-mi. Did you not do sight singing in college? All our music majors, both instrumental and vocal had to have 2 years of sight singing. It was part of Aural theory. I thought it was a standard thing, so I figured you'd know.

I'm a bit concerned about my daughter's music teacher. She's in a dual immersion program in which 60% of her classes are in English. Music is one of those classes. But she already speaks fluent English and she says her teacher's English is terrible and he's really hard to understand. ("Open your mouse" mouth. "One two tree") But last year, she asked me to quiz her on theory, and she handed me her book. It had a Treble Clef and it was labeled "Violin Clef". So I showed her a picture and asked what it was called, she said Violin Clef. I had NEVER heard it called that in English. So I asked all my music friends from college and even my Theory Professor, and I asked a professional musician in the UK just to make sure it wasn't a difference between British English and American English. I asked for every term they've ever heard for that symbol...no one had ever heard of a violin clef, and a google search of violin clef only came up with the Treble Clef being the one used for Violin. So I told my daughter that actually, that was incorrect, told her the correct term, and told her she might want to let the teacher know, because I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and assumed it's probably called violin clef in Dutch and he translated it literally instead of looking up the term in English. So she went to him and told him that her mom was American, and thus a native speaker and that she had a degree in music and that the term was actually Treble Clef. He said "Yes, it's sometimes called that, too." This year's book was edited to add Treble Clef as a 3rd term for it, after violin clef and G clef, but he can't admit that Violin Clef doesn't exist in the English language and insists it is the main term for it.

Then she came home after a test and said the test had 3 parts: Written Theory, Listening, and Solfege. I said "Oh! You're learning sight reading?" And she said no. And I was like..."But you said solfege." And she says yeah, that's one of the parts of the test. I told her solfege is do-re-mi...it's sight reading. She said that's not what her teacher calls solfege. So I asked her what he calls solfege. She says she doesn't really know, but it's not sight reading. So then she came home a few days ago and said she got a 9.6 on what he calls solfege. I asked her if she knew what it was now, and she said not really. She has to do written theory, has to do a listening section where he plays a part of a song and they have to tell him if it's Jazz or classical or pop, etc. And then there's the solfege and she mentioned something about him tapping out rhythms and they have to notate it, and something about finding differences in written notation and what he plays, so it sounds like Aural theory/notation maybe. But it's not solfege, whatever it is. I'm kind of thinking maybe I should look over her book and check what he's teaching them. He wrote the book himself, and he obviously isn't proficient in his English. It's not important in the grand scheme of things, except if they choose music as one of their subjects for the upper grades because then the test is made by a national pannel, not the teacher. So anything HE has it wrong, the kids will have wrong and it will count against them on the exam. And where he can't admit to making a mistake with the Treble Clef, I have to wonder what else he's got wrong. I can't blame him for making a mistake in his Engligh, but I can blame him for not being willing to correct it when he finds out he was wrong. But before I say he's wrong, I want to make sure that my other musician friends haven't heard of the terms in the context he is using....I want to make sure it is HIM that has it wrong and not me, because I certainly don't know everything. But so far, everyone agrees with me that they've never heard of a violin clef, and that solfege is a system of naming the notes in a scale for teaching sight reading. So I'm farely confident that it's not me.

Never saw solfege referred to as solfeggio? @Songbird76
How about here?

 

[donaldtoo]

Thank you

No prob...!!!
How’s your arm today...?

 

[donaldtoo]

Headin’ off to SonIL’s pops 60th birthday surprise party here in a coupla’ hours...damn, that dude is gettin’ old...although, compared to @Goofyernmost and my folks, a spring chicken...!!!!!

 

[donaldtoo]

A little cool here today for some, but, sunny and a very pretty day, nonetheless...!!!

 

[Songbird76]

Never saw solfege referred to as solfeggio? @Songbird76
How about here?

Interesting. No, I've never heard of it referred to as solfeggio before. See, this is why I wanted to make sure that it wasn't just me not knowing some other usage. I don't know everything. I haven't had theory for 20 years. But, so far, I've found nothing to suggest that "solfege" is anything other than the naming of notes in a scale for the purposes of sight singing. Thank you for your input! And bonus, I learned something new today! That's always fun.

 

[donaldtoo]

I can't make any promises as tomorrow is DMV day

Have to do that every 4 years here, too. I posted about the “Real ID” fun I had on that first Half-day Friday visit, and made sure I brought my birth certificate, passport, and social security card the next Half-day Friday to get it done...PITA, but, now I don’t hafta’ worry about it again ‘til 2024...!!!
Hope your visit went as smoothly as possible...!!!

 

[donaldtoo]

the turret is a staircase connecting the 2 blocks?

No, the turret is actually near the top of a staircase that goes to their only child’s (a 7-year-old daughter) area on that side of the home. That part of the home will include a bedroom, playscape, loft, etc. There is another staircase on the other side of the home that goes up to 2 guest bedrooms with ensuite baths.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

I've never heard the term "solfeggio" actually, but solfege is indeed the do-re-mi. Did you not do sight singing in college? All our music majors, both instrumental and vocal had to have 2 years of sight singing. It was part of Aural theory. I thought it was a standard thing, so I figured you'd know.

I'm a bit concerned about my daughter's music teacher. She's in a dual immersion program in which 60% of her classes are in English. Music is one of those classes. But she already speaks fluent English and she says her teacher's English is terrible and he's really hard to understand. ("Open your mouse" mouth. "One two tree") But last year, she asked me to quiz her on theory, and she handed me her book. It had a Treble Clef and it was labeled "Violin Clef". So I showed her a picture and asked what it was called, she said Violin Clef. I had NEVER heard it called that in English. So I asked all my music friends from college and even my Theory Professor, and I asked a professional musician in the UK just to make sure it wasn't a difference between British English and American English. I asked for every term they've ever heard for that symbol...no one had ever heard of a violin clef, and a google search of violin clef only came up with the Treble Clef being the one used for Violin. So I told my daughter that actually, that was incorrect, told her the correct term, and told her she might want to let the teacher know, because I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and assumed it's probably called violin clef in Dutch and he translated it literally instead of looking up the term in English. So she went to him and told him that her mom was American, and thus a native speaker and that she had a degree in music and that the term was actually Treble Clef. He said "Yes, it's sometimes called that, too." This year's book was edited to add Treble Clef as a 3rd term for it, after violin clef and G clef, but he can't admit that Violin Clef doesn't exist in the English language and insists it is the main term for it.

Then she came home after a test and said the test had 3 parts: Written Theory, Listening, and Solfege. I said "Oh! You're learning sight reading?" And she said no. And I was like..."But you said solfege." And she says yeah, that's one of the parts of the test. I told her solfege is do-re-mi...it's sight reading. She said that's not what her teacher calls solfege. So I asked her what he calls solfege. She says she doesn't really know, but it's not sight reading. So then she came home a few days ago and said she got a 9.6 on what he calls solfege. I asked her if she knew what it was now, and she said not really. She has to do written theory, has to do a listening section where he plays a part of a song and they have to tell him if it's Jazz or classical or pop, etc. And then there's the solfege and she mentioned something about him tapping out rhythms and they have to notate it, and something about finding differences in written notation and what he plays, so it sounds like Aural theory/notation maybe. But it's not solfege, whatever it is. I'm kind of thinking maybe I should look over her book and check what he's teaching them. He wrote the book himself, and he obviously isn't proficient in his English. It's not important in the grand scheme of things, except if they choose music as one of their subjects for the upper grades because then the test is made by a national pannel, not the teacher. So anything HE has it wrong, the kids will have wrong and it will count against them on the exam. And where he can't admit to making a mistake with the Treble Clef, I have to wonder what else he's got wrong. I can't blame him for making a mistake in his Engligh, but I can blame him for not being willing to correct it when he finds out he was wrong. But before I say he's wrong, I want to make sure that my other musician friends haven't heard of the terms in the context he is using....I want to make sure it is HIM that has it wrong and not me, because I certainly don't know everything. But so far, everyone agrees with me that they've never heard of a violin clef, and that solfege is a system of naming the notes in a scale for teaching sight reading. So I'm farely confident that it's not me.

We always just called it sight singing honestly. But violin clef? Really? I played violin in middle and high school and we never called it that. Sometimes we lazily called C clef the viola clef since viola is one of the few instruments to use it, but good grief.

 

[MinnieM123]

3 floor library...that's crazy. The town I grew up in had 36000 people but only a one floor library.

In our case, the additional space was not just for books, periodicals, media, etc., the meeting areas are also used for community events and seminars. So the library is a multi-use facility.

 

[MinnieM123]

I got lucky that got 2 appointments next week including one for a urologist. What happened was my new regular doctor wanted me to go to a urologist ASP and also to get an x-ray.

I called it lucky because the regular doctor's office was going to schedule me on April 1st for seeing a urologist at the medical building my new regular doctor is in. I ended getting an appointment outside of the medical building my regular doctor is located.

Since Thursday, I have been have problems off and on for bleed. I do not have all signs of a kidney stone due to me not having back pain after going. What I am facing right now is one I can't wait till April.





I didn't have any pain, but I wanted it to be checked out. I had kidney stones in 2012 and a laser was needed remove them at the time.

Based on what the doctor found out he wanted me to go to Urologist ASP, but the office was going to schedule me for April 1st to see one.

Hope this situation gets resolved soon for you. Once you have some sort of diagnosis, you'll be able to deal with it easier. It's the waiting to find out what's going on, that makes it all seem worse. Sending you pixie dust, my friend.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I got lucky that got 2 appointments next week including one for a urologist. What happened was my new regular doctor wanted me to go to a urologist ASP and also to get an x-ray.

I called it lucky because the regular doctor's office was going to schedule me on April 1st for seeing a urologist at the medical building my new regular doctor is in. I ended getting an appointment outside of the medical building my regular doctor is located.

Since Thursday, I have been have problems off and on for bleeding. I do not have all signs of a kidney stone due to me not having back pain after going. What I am facing right now is one I can't wait till April.

I didn't have any pain, but I wanted it to be checked out. I had kidney stones in 2012 and a laser was needed remove them at the time due to the size of the kidney stone.

Lack of pain isn't necessarily an indication of anything. Blood is! I had one massive stone that had to be removed surgically and all I had with it was an annoying ache. Nothing that I would call pain. The second had no pain at all except that ache again. I headed out as soon as I connected the dots and Sepsis kicked in on the way there. Close to buying the farm on that one. Please don't mess with it. I don't want to scare you, but it really is nothing to be messed with.

 

[Rista1313]

I found a few minutes this morning and gave them a try. Bottom line: one less thing on my plate. Taxes both Federal and State filed and accomplished. Thanks for the suggestion, it was easy and more importantly done. (and reasonably priced)

You are welcome! I’ve used it for the past three years. Next year it will remember all your info as well, so the process is even faster.

 

[Rista1313]

Thanks Rista just used freetaxusa good deal

you are welcome. Next year it’ll remember your info to make everything even easier!

 

[21stamps]

Interesting. No, I've never heard of it referred to as solfeggio before. See, this is why I wanted to make sure that it wasn't just me not knowing some other usage. I don't know everything. I haven't had theory for 20 years. But, so far, I've found nothing to suggest that "solfege" is anything other than the naming of notes in a scale for the purposes of sight singing. Thank you for your input! And bonus, I learned something new today! That's always fun.

I’ve been playing piano since young childhood and have never heard either of these terms.

I learned something new today, too!

 

[21stamps]

Never saw solfege referred to as solfeggio? @Songbird76
How about here?

I just watched this whole thing.. I guess I learned with “moveable do solfege”. That’s how I read music, and how I play by ear as well. I don’t ever remember this term, though. I might have to call my mom and ask if she remembers me learning the term.

Is it commonly used in piano lessons?