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Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
There will not be a lawsuit. The gym owner didn’t have a non-compete. They were not contracted, just employees. It is just sad when coaches got their names dragged through the mud due to overzealous parents.
I do agree. Even when I was screaming in my head for my kids while racing it was only under my breath I was cheery and my kids appreciated us not fighting with parents, coaches or leagues they were in. When they played softball and little league their Dad avoided certain kids during draft not because of kids but there parents were always starting fires and just had the reputation for being exhausting. On high school some kids didn’t make teams more because of the history of parents. While not announced everyone knew the whys.
 

21stamps

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I do agree. Even when I was screaming in my head for my kids while racing it was only under my breath I was cheery and my kids appreciated us not fighting with parents, coaches or leagues they were in. When they played softball and little league their Dad avoided certain kids during draft not because of kids but there parents were always starting fires and just had the reputation for being exhausting. On high school some kids didn’t make teams more because of the history of parents. While not announced everyone knew the whys.

At our school it’s in our athletic agreement that a parent can and will be permanently barred from attending games if they act unbecoming to the school’s reputation. I would not think that any of our coaches would ever want to prevent a kid from playing, though, unless the kid themselves are the problem/disruptive to the team. I’d think they’d just talk to the parents and lay down strong warnings, ban if necessary.

At kiddo’s soccer academy it’s in our contract that not only the parent will be banned, but the kid may be benched/removed from the club as well.

I think finally sports are starting to take a stand against obnoxious parents, but too many people still get away with way too much.
 
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21stamps

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There will not be a lawsuit. The gym owner didn’t have a non-compete. They were not contracted, just employees. It is just sad when coaches got their names dragged through the mud due to overzealous parents.

I’m so confused and may have missed part of the convo.

Are the parents badmouthing the coaches and recruiting people to go somewhere else?
Or are the coaches the ones unhappy with the current facilities/shared training space and backhandedly went about branching out on their own?
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
At our school it’s in our athletic agreement that a parent can and will be permanently barred from attending games if they act unbecoming to the school’s reputation. I would not think that any of our coaches would ever want to prevent a kid from playing, though, unless the kid themselves are the problem/disruptive to the team. I’d think they’d just talk to the parents and lay down strong warnings, ban if necessary.

At kiddo’s soccer academy it’s in our contract that not only the parent will be banned, but the kid may be benched/removed from the club as well.

I think finally sports are starting to take a stand against obnoxious parents, but too many people still get away with way too much.

I’m removed from it now. But as most of you know my son was a Parks and Rec major. Where he worked for worked for over a decade, the soccer and football were the most troublesome parents each had a few that ruined it for most families. Most the trouble families had nice kids and talents. The trouble parents lacked awareness to how much second guessing they did each year, complaints about everything from what the philosophy of the program should be, who should play more, practice and game schedules, late registration wants, if they could play up or down also age vs grade level teams and why their kid should come late and leave early. Parents can be exhausting. The great parents that just sold popcorn and hotdogs at the concession stand and let their kids just play and be coached were awesome. But it only takes a few parents to upset a team or sport. Unfortunate.

He had enough. Now parents have a bull pen area they can’t leave depending on the sport. They till then had a parents advisory board and volunteers. Gone for everyone. No more input on uniforms or anything. It is better. Coaches coach. Kids learn and play. Know it all parents were finally silent. Majority elated.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Suddenly, I’ve been hearing everyone talking about getting their dogs’ teeth cleaned, and it costing anywhere from $300 to $600.

I don’t get it.

We've never had teeth cleaning for any of our dogs -- ever. None had dental issues straight into their senior years. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but at least in our case (and hubs has had dogs his whole life), it just wasn't done.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
For those who were following the saga of that idiot who wanted Target to sell him a toothbrush for 1 cent...the manager is going on vacation

 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
For those who were following the saga of that idiot who wanted Target to sell him a toothbrush for 1 cent...the manager is going on vacation

Good!

Hopefully everyone will be aware of that clown that tried to get her fired.
He has a long line of abusing every single thing to get what he wants. Including ridiculous straw grasping idiocy to get free stuff.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Good!

Hopefully everyone will be aware of that clown that tried to get her fired.
He has a long line of abusing every single thing to get what he wants. Including ridiculous straw grasping idiocy to get free stuff.
Yeah, apparently he contacted Dunkin Donuts because they had a location that wouldn't take cash.

He harassed a Walmart manager for not honoring a price match (apparently, the policy didn't apply to that item).

And he claimed not to have been to the dentist in over three years when he had a tweet about how he got his dentist's office to turn off Fox news less than two years ago.

There are words to describe people like him. This is a family forum, however...
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
Yeah, apparently he contacted Dunkin Donuts because they had a location that wouldn't take cash.

He harassed a Walmart manager for not honoring a price match (apparently, the policy didn't apply to that item).

And he claimed not to have been to the dentist in over three years when he had a tweet about how he got his dentist's office to turn off Fox news less than two years ago.

There are words to describe people like him. This is a family forum, however...
Reminds me of some guests at WDW, the more they complain, the more they get compensated.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
I’m removed from it now. But as most of you know my son was a Parks and Rec major. Where he worked for worked for over a decade, the soccer and football were the most troublesome parents each had a few that ruined it for most families. Most the trouble families had nice kids and talents. The trouble parents lacked awareness to how much second guessing they did each year, complaints about everything from what the philosophy of the program should be, who should play more, practice and game schedules, late registration wants, if they could play up or down also age vs grade level teams and why their kid should come late and leave early. Parents can be exhausting. The great parents that just sold popcorn and hotdogs at the concession stand and let their kids just play and be coached were awesome. But it only takes a few parents to upset a team or sport. Unfortunate.

He had enough. Now parents have a bull pen area they can’t leave depending on the sport. They till then had a parents advisory board and volunteers. Gone for everyone. No more input on uniforms or anything. It is better. Coaches coach. Kids learn and play. Know it all parents were finally silent. Majority elated.

You basically listed most of my concerns over the past 2 years. 😂😂

However, as someone on the athletic board and a coach, I hope that I have more say on how our school handles youth sports and not just expected to “shut up and sell popcorn”.
Someone has to make the decisions on those things, without an athletic board there wouldn’t be an athletic program. In youth sports, it should be parents on these boards, not outsiders, imo.


Select sports are different, those won’t be player parent boards, but should still put the general well being of kids first and foremost above anything else. Even our academy sends seasonal surveys asking for feedback. At the end of the day, it’s “our” kids. Fees and/or fund raising shouldn’t be the only time they want to hear from us.

Without involved parents, especially former athletes, at any competitive or non competitive level, we would have never seen things like pitch count rules and no head balls prior to a certain age, which falls under general well being., had all of the parents of the injured kids just continued to stay silent, more and more kids would have been medically out of sports before finishing high school, with a heck of a lot more injuries as well even if they weren’t career ending.

We have so many problems with youth sports in this country, coaches and programs who expect one sport athletes all while knowing that it’s against every orthopedic recommendation, who push kids too hard and overlook their health. As well as too many bad coaches who drive kids out of sports, because the coach doesn’t know how to handle a youth team. I do hope that parents continue to speak up and be involved for the youth players in sports... it’s about the youth, not a coach. I also hope coaches and organizations realize that parental input and open communication is an integral part of youth sports. Parents are trusting us with their kids, possible injuries, confidence, so much in development.. we shouldn’t shut ourselves off from them. I couldn’t do that with the families of the kids that I coach. I would never allow my child to play for an organization with that mentality. Philosophy is the most important part of a youth program- school, recreational, or select/travel.


Obnoxious parents on the sideline are something different, and are unacceptable at all levels. One rule that I think works well to avoid parent-coach confrontations is the “no contact for 24 hours after a game”. I think that’s best for all. It’s also good to have team admins who act as a buffer between coaches and parents in select sports, when needed. Coaches also face plenty of abuse from irate parents and I think the admins and waiting time have helped.

ETA- after writing the paragraph I had to knock on wood. 😂. We’ve been sooooo lucky that our soccer team has not had any completely demanding parents who think their kid is the next Messi and cause problems with other parents, players, and the coach. I do not take this for granted, as I know this is rare, even within our club. I hope it remains this way for as long as possible. We’ve had a tight knit group even with all of the player changes over the past few years. The new families have fit right in so far. I realize that both T and I are lucky for that..it could have gone much differently.
 
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MySmallWorldof4

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@21stamps I spoke to one of the coaches. She gave dd private lessons. She said she didn’t tell of a new gym, she just mentioned she wouldn’t be back next year. It turns out that only 1 coach had ever mentioned opening her own gym. The other 2 were going along. She insists she didn’t solicit. I gathered information from a few parents that last day and change. Some overzealous parents found out they were going to have a huge cheer gym in the area and took it upon themselves to tell a selective few that they wanted to go with them to the new gym. The gym owner found out about this rumor when a friend of mine went to her after hearing from her friend about it. I found out today from talking to a gymnastics coach (the owner wasn’t in and dd had her private lesson with her), that my instincts that at least some firings were unwarranted. She said there was only one coach who was actively find a division 1 cheer gym to come to the area. The other 2 were duped into it because of the glorious idea of working one of those gyms. Those are the ones that have higher level teams that can compete at the more famous competitions. Anyway I found out from this coach that she thinks the president if the parent board signed a non-disclosure form with this coach. She wanted info on how to run a parent board and didn’t want anything getting out. Well she told the wrong person because it did. If he was the one she told initially then he is the reason that the chaos has been created and the kids are suffering. Apparently the owner had known for months. Guessing she was hoping nothing would come out during the season. The coach I spoke with thinks that if the owner had confronted this coach sooner none of this would have happened. Anyway this board president then told his wife I am sure and they told their clique of friends. Rumors were getting spread by kids who overheard their parents and then it all blew up over the weekend, a successful weekend for the gym. Just sad. Anyway, I asked this coach who has the owners ear to tell her she needs a meeting with coaches, parents, and the owner so the air can clear. If not then I said there will be a cloud over the gym for a few years.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I remember a discussion I believe with @dryerlintfan a few weeks back. A good read


I read that the other day. It is a bummer because my temperature is always 97.6 unless I am sick. I've told that to ER people on the occasions that I went there. Bums me out though because all of a sudden I'm normal and I always prided myself on being able to survive with a lower temperature. Now there is nothing superior about me. :cry:😱😲🤒
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
Suddenly, I’ve been hearing everyone talking about getting their dogs’ teeth cleaned, and it costing anywhere from $300 to $600.

I don’t get it.

We had our dog's teeth cleaned this past summer and it was around $250-350. She had to have some teeth extracted at that time too. My girl didn't do that well this time with the anesthesia though, or maybe it was the fact that it was done on the hottest and most humid day last year. She ended up needing a couple days to bounce back, so it does make me reluctant to have it done again.
 

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