NiarrNDisney
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The Brazilian tour groups: is Disney taking action?
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OneDNP
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Just because it irks me: disliking the behavior of a subset of a culture in a specific situation is not xenophobia. Phobia accusations seem to get thrown around whenever someone is not 100% on-board with the particular behaviors or wants of the people being described. One can think tour groups are obnoxious without irrational hatred or fear of the entire culture.
I have only encountered a few tour groups and they did not harsh my mellow. But, I also have not been line-jumped, struck with a selfie-stick (so glad I missed that era), shoved out of the way, suffered a headache or tinnitus from the loud shrill of chanting/screeching, or experienced any similar impacts that would fall under the category of rational distaste for teenage tour groups, regardless of country of origin.
I have only encountered a few tour groups and they did not harsh my mellow. But, I also have not been line-jumped, struck with a selfie-stick (so glad I missed that era), shoved out of the way, suffered a headache or tinnitus from the loud shrill of chanting/screeching, or experienced any similar impacts that would fall under the category of rational distaste for teenage tour groups, regardless of country of origin.
G00fyDad
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They're here. They'll shut the thread down when it gets to be too much. We are adults. We shouldn't have to have someone come in and tell us to behave. Unfortunately, there are some who do not think before they act and that is when the thread will get closed.
Nemo14
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Mods on here are very good when questionable posts are reported to them.
If you look at the bottom of the post, you will see that along with "quote" "like this post" and "reply" it says "report." Which will alert a moderator to a problem post, as we do not have time to read every new post in every thread 24 hours a day. It has worked fairly well over the past decade.
Most long time posters know how to behave.
HolleBolleGijs
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Also, some posts in this thread have already been deleted, so the mods apparently think that we're behaving for the most part.
Let's not ruin it
Ulysses McGill
Active Member
Nothing special. I just happened to be sitting next to a group of resorts CMs during the crazy lightning storm that caused the 4th of July fireworks (the first of two showings of the Symphony in the Sky) to be delayed 2 hours and we got on that topic. The topic was inspired because a tour group gathered in front of Cinderella's Castle to do a chant in the middle of the rain and lightning. Anyhow, that's how the topic came up.
Apparently one of the damage stories was that at All-Star Resort, they have a replica of Herbie the Love Bug on property in one of the lawns (I've never stayed there, but I've seen pictures of the car). At some point, a bunch of the kids got together and managed to somehow move the car completely across the area and into a spot where it was really messing up foot traffic.
As for that lightning storm, this is what we sat thhrough: http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/05/travel/disney-world-lightning-storm-feat/
No they are rude... You have to act like the giving country...We always hear about rude Americans when they travel, but I think we are way better than Asians and central/south Americans act here.... It is not even close.
BJones82
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Just because you have been lucky doesn't make it true... Avg temp in June in WDW: 92 Degrees, September: 89 Degrees, late June it stays up at: 92 on average in late September/October it gets down to: 85 degrees.
http://www.visitorlando.com/plan-your-trip/weather/
The South American tour groups are more prevalent during their winter and summer breaks. So June- Aug and then Jan - March just like we go on vacations during our breaks they do too.... SO... Once again just like you said, just because of your 1 time experience that does not make it fact for everyone and everything. If you go on a ride once and it breaks down is it fair to say it always breaks down?
General knowledge and science shows that on average June is hotter than September, this year is El Nino so temps will be more mild. In 2011 I went in late June and it was over 100 Degrees still at midnight when we got back to the hotel... See I take your 1 experience of it being mild in June and show you my 1 experience of it being extreme in June
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
Most of the tour groups people are complaining about were made up of large amounts of teenagers without parent or major adult supervision. Most teens have at some pointed acted up or without consideration for others, when their parents or authority figures are not around. Put them in large groups and you tend to exacerbate the situation.
Many teens do not realize they are annoying others with there chants, singing etc. It is not exclusive to a specific country. I have been in line with cheer leading groups from the US who have decided to chant in line. We have had members on this site admit to chanting or singing in line when they were at Disney as teens.
I personally can recall when a group of friends and I were obnoxious as teenagers at a local restaurant, talking to loud and having to be asked to quite down.
I'm glad Disney is doing something to help solve the problem but I hate to see people bashing one country when this is a problem with other teen groups from many countries.
Many teens do not realize they are annoying others with there chants, singing etc. It is not exclusive to a specific country. I have been in line with cheer leading groups from the US who have decided to chant in line. We have had members on this site admit to chanting or singing in line when they were at Disney as teens.
I personally can recall when a group of friends and I were obnoxious as teenagers at a local restaurant, talking to loud and having to be asked to quite down.
I'm glad Disney is doing something to help solve the problem but I hate to see people bashing one country when this is a problem with other teen groups from many countries.
G00fyDad
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Ultimately THAT is the real issue. Regardless of country the fact that teens and pre-teens are allowed to run around unsupervised is the problem. Now, compound that on top of these children that come from a country where this behavior is relatively accepted and you have some real eye opening moments.
aw14
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Back in '98, my now DW and I stayed at ASMu and had a late night run in with a tour group. I ran outside the room in the middle of the night in just my shorts and let loose on them for being too loud. @awheartsdw could give a better breakdown, but needless to say, the rest of the nights were quiet.
awheartsdw
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G00fyDad
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The same can be said for American Cheerleading Competition children. They can be just as rude and obnoxious as other groups of teens. I know a mother of one that used to go to Disney every year with her daughter and their group. She thought the looks on people's faces were funny when her daughter's group would let loose with a loud cheer in the middle of a crowd. She once asked me why it matters because it is hurting no one. I waited for her to be in the middle of a conversation with someone else and walked up right behind her and started screaming very loud. It scared the living daylights out of her and she got all mad. I just looked at her and said "What does it matter? It isn't hurting anyone."
ohiodisfan
New Member
My family was in the world in January and had several tour groups, primarily from Brazil, cut in line in rides. To be honest most of the cutters were the adults and when addressed to a cast member he told me that I needed to go to the back of the line because he didn't see us walk past him. Write off the fact that he spoke to both of my kids as we got in the line. As for the adult cutters, who were from tour groups from Brazil he made four go to the back of the line where they jumped into the fast past line and then cut back in with their group that had removed chains to get in the line.
asianway
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I saw a group empty the contents of an entire room - all of the furniture, into the deep end of the pool one year. And yes security was on the way as I was about to go report it
Bingo on that one. For the xenophobes it wouldn't matter if it was a group wearing union jack shirts chanting in Russian, they would assume they were a Brazilian tour group because "brazilian tour" group has become a catch all for foreigners that are speaking something other than English.
If you were familiar with South Americans in general you would also know that folks from Argentina are probably among the rudest you'll find from the area... Only adults I've ever had trying to cut through lines and then act like they were completely unaware that they were doing it or it was wrong were from Argentina... That was the country I never liked to have to go to for business because the people seem to be trying to outdo the quintessential rude New Yorker to the nth degree. I would rather be surrounded by chanting Brazilians tour groups all day than have to deal with Argentinians for 10 minutes.
draybook
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Most long time posters know how to behave.
Get off of my back, I said I'm working on it! Geez..............
righttrack
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There are good groups and bad groups. I find the best ones stay together but don't build a "blockade". There was one group a few weeks ago, in orange, that formed a blockade at the exit of Epcot so they could gather their group together. The leaders were pushing people not part of their group back. It was ugly because you know, normal night at Epcot, Illuminations ends, and it's just a flow. I would think this problem could be alleviated if WDW gave them a place to meet. There is a lot of unoccupied space in the park. Give these groups a place to gather at the end of their park day, and you won't have a problem.
I think the inherent problem with the parks and these groups are, is that the ride systems, the dining, the parks in general are not architected to keep large groups of people together safely and comfortably. I'd also imagine that these kids are high school age. They would want to have free time too, not just group time. I dunno am I crazy?
I think the inherent problem with the parks and these groups are, is that the ride systems, the dining, the parks in general are not architected to keep large groups of people together safely and comfortably. I'd also imagine that these kids are high school age. They would want to have free time too, not just group time. I dunno am I crazy?