talk for a new park to come

[Sumshine 904]

So the other night i was speaking to a friend of mine who is a animator/designer for Disney. He has worked on things such as toy story 2, the Cinderella castle suite, a new movie introducing the FIRST black princess and has been asked to join fellow employees on creating/building a new park.

I couldn't get him to tell me ideas they were tossing around, but assured me that he would update me with something as soon as he knew, which in return i'll let you all know as well.

As for the villain park that has been in the making for a very long time now, it seems, that will starting up again as well.

The only possible way that your friend could be a legitimate source is if they're some sort of art designer/architect or something, and that I very highly doubt. As much as I'd like to see a fifth gate, I don't see one happening anytime soon.

 

[-SIR-]

It's rude to completely blow someone off when you dont know that they are wrong.

Disney is a huge company

and full of suprises... be careful what you say now, you may regret it later.

 

[JML42691]

So who wants to buy the popcorn for this thread?:lookaroun
The way these threads work out is always interesting.

 

[Fun2BFree]

I agree. I think a villians land on the old 20,000 Leagues plot would be a much better idea. To me it seems a waste to build a 5th gate when so much could be added or refurbed at the other parks.

I think a Villains *anything* is a waste of time. Seriously, the theme is just general bad guy things? When you have so many different Disney villains in so many different spectrums and timezones, it just makes it impossible to design a single architecture or story to work them all in. Not to mention that villains are completely non-kid friendly. :brick:

 

[unkadug]

Yeah...unless your friend is Walt Disney,this aint happening.

Sorry.

That's what I was thinking....how high up in The Disney Corp. is he?

Either that or a Jungle Cruise Skipper...honestly how many times have we been told that we're not going to get another park for atleast 8-10 years...MGM will get work and AK will be getting work done before a new park is even throught of.

~Chag

8 to 10 years at least.

So who wants to buy the popcorn for this thread?:lookaroun
The way these threads work out is always interesting.

 

[WaltsApprentice]

Really? Where did they launch the fireworks when 20K was still there? :shrug:

I don't see where else they could add a new land to MK unless they bulldozed Toon Town.

The launch site for the fireworks...is way farther than just behind 20K, its maybe about 1/4 of a mile back ....give or take...

Also I do like the idea of a new park, but again I would prefer to just work on the ones we have! DAK is still a baby!

Oh and about the comment about moving around in the company.... Disney changes management and castmembers around all the time... at least every 5 months there is a change. And also didn't many animators use to create parks and attractions...wasn't that who the orginal Imagineers were, for example the women who help designed It's a small world, also worked on Lady and the Tramp and other films?? Or am I mixing my facts up, sorry...

 

[DisneyAnole]

Oh and about the comment about moving around in the company.... Disney changes management and castmembers around all the time... at least every 5 months there is a change. And also didn't many animators use to create parks and attractions...wasn't that who the orginal Imagineers were, for example the women who help designed It's a small world, also worked on Lady and the Tramp and other films?? Or am I mixing my facts up, sorry...

Past tense. Not anymore. Isn't WDI a separate company?


Back on topic, I bet the OP was talking about the new Disney park that's being built in Texas.


Or is it Branson, Missouri?

 

[Justin Jones]

I can’t believe that some people on this thread are so quick to say that the original poster is full of rubbish.

It is completely possible that someone could be a part of so many diverse projects within the company. I’m not saying it’s necessarily true, but it could happen and has happened before.

Let me explain:
With the merger of Disney and Pixar, it is very likely that a Disney/Pixar employee has worked on both Toy Story 2 and the new hand-animated feature film (he/she could’ve moved to Disney animation after the merge).

People love to assume that Imagineering is this group of wizards that can do any and everything on their own with no help from outside. Well, this just isn’t true. An attraction like Fantasmic, for example, was a collaboration between Entertainment, Imagineering, and (here it comes) the Disney Animation. The list goes on and on: Mickey’s Philharmagic combined the talents of Imagineering and Animation to be completed; Illuminations is a collaborative effort between Entertainment and Don Dorsey Productions, an outside company; The old Legend of the Lion King show at Magic Kingdom enlisted the talents of Imagineering and Animation; Disney Theatricals called upon Imagineering to help them redesign the New Amsterdam Theatre, in New York, for the opening of the Broadway Lion King; etc; etc; etc…

Does anybody think that Imagineering completely designed Disney’s Hollywood Studios with no consultants or input from the actual studios in Burbank, CA? I don’t think so.

For a fictitious example, I could say that I know somebody who worked on the Broadway Lion King, Disney World’s Millennium Celebration, the super bowl halftime show in 2000, and Cirque Du Soleil’s “Ka” in Las Vegas. Some people may say that I’m crazy, but if my friend worked for Michael Curry Design, then it would be completely possible.

I just wanted to throw this out there.

Thanks
:wave:

 

[ChrisFL]

I just posted this over on micechat, but same issue:

I've been going over the recent posts about what's rumored and what's actually happening around WDW.

Here is what we know:

*Major Hotel Expansion happening in the Western Way near AK
*Pleasure Island may be going through some changes to make less night clubs, more shopping
*Animal Kingdom, on average, is open until early in the evening, not late at night
* Disney currently has approximately 55,000 employees working at WDW, making any addition of more quality employees for a full-scale 5th park difficult.

Here is what has been rumored in the past several years/recently:

* Thrill rides/Villains park to attract the people who might prefer other parks for those kinds of rides (IOA)
* Recent talk of an exclusive, later hours park for a few hundred dollars that's all inclusive (meals/drinks, etc.) similar to how Sea World runs Discovery Cove.

Now taking all of that into consideration, it could be that Disney is planning a smaller park with more adult themed areas, more exclusive, limited to a small number of guests daily, with possibly using some of AK's daytime staff to work this park. Thus, it would be bypassing the need for hiring more employees, and potentially even having some of the things that Pleasure Island has had.

 

[doop]

They have enough to worry about with their current parks, no need for a new one just yet.

 

[raven]

I can’t believe that some people on this thread are so quick to say that the original poster is full of rubbish.

It is completely possible that someone could be a part of so many diverse projects within the company. I’m not saying it’s necessarily true, but it could happen and has happened before.

Well, (like the members you may be talking about) if you've been here for over 5 years and have read hundreds of bogus threads about rumors like this, then you will understand why it's getting bashed. It's just that all of the threads like this have rarely held any weight. It's like crying "wolf."

 

[DisneyMusician2]

I agree. I think a villians land on the old 20,000 Leagues plot would be a much better idea. To me it seems a waste to build a 5th gate when so much could be added or refurbed at the other parks.

Especially when people are complainging about waining maintenance, upkeep, and new attraction humbers as it is.

One would think Disney should improve rather than grow at this point.

 

[ImaYoyo]

In short, it's highly unlikely. The person would have had to have worked for different companies back and forth in a relatively short span of time, which is fairly unusual for the time period stated. Not to mention the use of the word "employees", the location (Chicago), ect ect. Not to mention many of us are Cast Members in non-front-line LOBs who understand these scenarios first hand, and can be quick to dispell rubbish.

I can’t believe that some people on this thread are so quick to say that the original poster is full of rubbish.

It is completely possible that someone could be a part of so many diverse projects within the company. I’m not saying it’s necessarily true, but it could happen and has happened before.

Let me explain:
With the merger of Disney and Pixar, it is very likely that a Disney/Pixar employee has worked on both Toy Story 2 and the new hand-animated feature film (he/she could’ve moved to Disney animation after the merge).

People love to assume that Imagineering is this group of wizards that can do any and everything on their own with no help from outside. Well, this just isn’t true. An attraction like Fantasmic, for example, was a collaboration between Entertainment, Imagineering, and (here it comes) the Disney Animation. The list goes on and on: Mickey’s Philharmagic combined the talents of Imagineering and Animation to be completed; Illuminations is a collaborative effort between Entertainment and Don Dorsey Productions, an outside company; The old Legend of the Lion King show at Magic Kingdom enlisted the talents of Imagineering and Animation; Disney Theatricals called upon Imagineering to help them redesign the New Amsterdam Theatre, in New York, for the opening of the Broadway Lion King; etc; etc; etc…

Does anybody think that Imagineering completely designed Disney’s Hollywood Studios with no consultants or input from the actual studios in Burbank, CA? I don’t think so.

For a fictitious example, I could say that I know somebody who worked on the Broadway Lion King, Disney World’s Millennium Celebration, the super bowl halftime show in 2000, and Cirque Du Soleil’s “Ka” in Las Vegas. Some people may say that I’m crazy, but if my friend worked for Michael Curry Design, then it would be completely possible.

I just wanted to throw this out there.

Thanks
:wave:

 

[wdwmomof3]

Especially when people are complainging about waining maintenance, upkeep, and new attraction humbers as it is.

One would think Disney should improve rather than grow at this point.

I feel the same way. I would love to see new attractions in the parks that we have now, for get a new park for now. There is so much that could be done at the ones that we have. Besides, if they charge hundreds of dollars to go to that one park, I wouldn't go anyway.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Really? Where did they launch the fireworks when 20K was still there? :shrug:

I don't see where else they could add a new land to MK unless they bulldozed Toon Town.

It's behind the 20K Sight but if you were to add a whole land there...it would have to be pretty short.

As for Toontown,kinda.Or they could just pull out the Indy speedway and make that the entrance to a land East of there.

Or just pull out the speedway 'cause it looks terrible.That's good too.

 

[fizzle75]

Get your hip boots out folks, it's gonna get deep in here tonight!

 

[Enderikari]

I just posted this over on micechat, but same issue:

Wow, you dragged it through that slime? I hoped you washed afterwards...

 

[Tim G]

So the other night i was speaking to a friend of mine who is a animator/designer for Disney. He has worked on things such as toy story 2, the Cinderella castle suite, a new movie introducing the FIRST black princess and has been asked to join fellow employees on creating/building a new park.

I couldn't get him to tell me ideas they were tossing around, but assured me that he would update me with something as soon as he knew, which in return i'll let you all know as well.

As for the villain park that has been in the making for a very long time now, it seems, that will starting up again as well.

*cough cough* Crap! *cough cough*

 

[grunter]

I don't see where else they could add a new land to MK unless they bulldozed Toon Town.

All I heard was " . . . . they bulldozed Toon Town."

To which my reaction was: :sohappy:

And then I read it again.

For those complaining that a villain themed 5th park would be too limited, that's exactly what I'd say about a certain "theme park" devoted to animals. *yawn*

 

[prberk]

It's true. Disney does not move people from animation to Imagineering like they did back in the days of Walt. They have plenty of people now to cover all aspects and they don't mingle their departments.

Sort of off topic for this thread, but I believe that this is one of the reasons that the company has stagnated sometimes in the imagination and creativity department. I think that they SHOULD co-mingle the department staff again, like Walt did, from time to time. Isn't that what John Lassiter's co-titles of both head of animation AND chief creative officer for WDI suggests?

I do not believe this particular rumor, but I do think that creative license which co-mingles the creative minds within the company is a great thing -- and the very reason that Walt succeeded like he did. He didn't put everyone in a box. He led where the ideas led...

Paul