Surprise! Red Tier Now Begins Sunday; Downtown Disney Restaurants???

[DCBaker]

 

[Darkbeer1]

California’s new regional coronavirus stay-at-home order: What you need to know – Orange County Register (ocregister.com)

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What happens after the regional stay-at-home order is lifted?​

Once a region is no longer under the stay-at-home order, the tier system would go back into effect. Every county in the Southern California region except for Inyo County is currently in the most restrictive tier.<<


Welcome to Southern California Inyo County. As of tomorrow, you are now closed!

 

[TP2000]

Well, that's gotta hurt. Right before Christmas.

At least Disney is paying them to not work their scheduled shifts for the next two weeks.

This is still a big financial hit to TDA. This wasn't how it was supposed to go when they launched Buena Vista Street three weeks ago.

 

[el_super]

This is still a big financial hit to TDA. This wasn't how it was supposed to go when they launched Buena Vista Street three weeks ago.

They reopened a shopping district in the middle of an uncontrolled pandemic and at the same time they were told they couldnt open their theme parks. They knew what they were getting into.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I would like to know from those that are unabashedly in favor of all of these regulations in California.... how many of you have been impacted financially in a major way and how many of you Have young kids? I don’t know everybody’s personal life around here but I have been around long enough and know that a few of the most Vocal “shut it downers” do not have kids or at least do not have young kids. Let me just say to those of you- this pandemic has forced me to take my patience to levels of Sainthood. Having a newborn and a 5 year old at home who is going stir crazy at home because he should be in school or playing with friends has been something. On one hand I appreciate all the time with family. On the other, you know the saying ... life is all about balance. We ve had to continue working and be our kids teachers among all the other ordinary duties. This has been extremely tough on young families and Im positive my son is Falling behind and will probably graduate high school when he’s damn near 20 now. And he called a stick of legos his friend the other day.

This just kind of reminds me how peaceful those Buddhist monks look and how they look like the have it all figured it out but then I wonder how peaceful they would be if they weren’t living in a garden and were thrust into my life.

Who cares what the Shut It Downers think. They're not essential in my life. In fact, they're all on Ignore! I'm as powerful as Gavin on this forum!

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Who cares what the Shut It Downers think. They're not essential in my life. In fact, they're all on Ignore! I'm as powerful as Gavin on this forum!

For the record I hope you don't consider me a "shut it downer." When the pandemic started and everything started closing i was for it but everything should have opened up months ago in my eyes including Disneyland. but when it was clear it was not going to open this year i was looking forward to it in January but now that does not seem possible. i think we need to get back to some type of normal life. so i hope you don't have me on ignore because i love interacting with you and your posts

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

And yet, per all I can tell, I am still required to report for jury duty this month where I could be sequestered in an enclosed space with multiple people who are not part of my household. So...

Of course, what could be nerve-wracking about that thought - enclosed space with no ventilation, minimum of two dozen people in the courtroom who are not in my household that I would have to be exposed to for days, weeks or months? And that's not counting the jurors alone in the juror room talking to each other for hours, days, weeks, to determine a ruling. Great idea during this pandemic. Per the government: safe.

And yet, getting a seasonal churro from an outdoor vending cart to eat socially distanced on a planter? Per the government: deadly.


(For reference: I'm not advocating for the churro here. Confession: I don't like churros. But how is that deadly and jury duty not only safe but mandatory?)

 

[TP2000]

They reopened a shopping district in the middle of an uncontrolled pandemic and at the same time they were told they couldnt open their theme parks. They knew what they were getting into.

Airplane, 1980. Gosh, I wish they'd make movies like that again!

 

[lazyboy97o]

And yet, per all I can tell, I am still required to report for jury duty this month where I could be sequestered in an enclosed space with multiple people who are not part of my household. So...

Of course, what could be nerve-wracking about that thought - enclosed space with no ventilation, minimum of two dozen people in the courtroom who are not in my household that I would have to be exposed to for days, weeks or months? And that's not counting the jurors alone in the juror room talking to each other for hours, days, weeks, to determine a ruling. Great idea during this pandemic. Per the government: safe.

And yet, getting a seasonal churro from an outdoor vending cart to eat socially distanced on a planter? Per the government: deadly.


(For reference: I'm not advocating for the churro here. Confession: I don't like churros. But how is that deadly and jury duty not only safe but mandatory?)

You’ll also be paid less than minimum wage.

 

[disneycp]

They reopened a shopping district in the middle of an uncontrolled pandemic and at the same time they were told they couldnt open their theme parks. They knew what they were getting into.

The people on this forum are truly something else. Before Disney reopened the shopping district, all anyone had to say was “why does Disney have to keep laying people off?? Why can’t they get creative like Knott’s and open up some of their restaurants and shops and help keep cast members employed?” And now that they actually did that and have to close down again it’s an abrupt 180 to “they had it coming for opening anything in the first place.”

 

[MisterPenguin]

Cutoff of funding is being used as a bargaining chip by the state to punish citizens... Riverside's sheriff has something to say about it, I wonder if others will follow (shut it downers need not watch, it'll hurt fee fees)-

"..not representative of true numbers..."

Oh, is there a hoax you'd like to share with us about how the numbers are fake?​

"..when the medical field is so split about this virus..."

No. It is not split. Yes, there are outliers, but by definition 'outliers' our outside the consensus of the majority view. Looks like our sheriff hero is getting his info from the wuu wuu media outlets, and is the most telling that he's operating from an ideological point of view rather than a realist point of view.​

"I believe all jobs are essential to someone..."

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Okey dokey. He's a nutcase. He's taking the phrase "essential jobs" which has a particular context within an emergency pandemic response and pretending he doesn't understand that context to twist it to personalizing it as every job is "essential" to one one who works it.​

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When we had lockdowns, policing and grocery stores were essential to life and security... the very definition of "essential." Gyms and barber shops were not essential in balance of stopping a virus that was killing people. Keeping people alive is essential, again, the very definition of "essential"... as in life or death.​

Now, does the sheriff make other points that are salient? Yes.

Does that excuse the "open now" distortion of facts and policies so that he can cherry pick data and cast doubt on real data and good policy that allows him and his cohort to keep doing whatever they want to do despite a world-wide pandemic? No, it doesn't.

 

[Sailor310]

And yet, per all I can tell, I am still required to report for jury duty this month where I could be sequestered in an enclosed space with multiple people who are not part of my household. So...

Of course, what could be nerve-wracking about that thought - enclosed space with no ventilation, minimum of two dozen people in the courtroom who are not in my household that I would have to be exposed to for days, weeks or months? And that's not counting the jurors alone in the juror room talking to each other for hours, days, weeks, to determine a ruling. Great idea during this pandemic. Per the government: safe.

And yet, getting a seasonal churro from an outdoor vending cart to eat socially distanced on a planter? Per the government: deadly.


(For reference: I'm not advocating for the churro here. Confession: I don't like churros. But how is that deadly and jury duty not only safe but mandatory?)

For what it's worth, I'm high risk in a couple of categories. I read all the VERY EFFECTIVE steps that the state was doing to ensure my safety...like wiping down the elevator buttons at least two times per day and setting up chairs for a room full of jurors 6 feet apart. I got a note from my doctor mentioning my risk factors, so they let me off. Of course they didn't text or email. I had to log on to the site and there was a teeny paragraph saying my service was complete.

 

[drizgirl]

There also are not "millions of people in California have recovered and are immune to the disease." cases are rising everyday. beds are running low. things are horrible in califorina because poeple like you keep going to downtonw disney to get your corn dog from Award Weiners.

Has anyone gotten Covid buying a corn dog from Award Wieners?

How do you feel about the 350 people being furloughed YET AGAIN? Are you willing to give up your income to continue this mirage of absolute safety?

Many experts say the real spread is happening in people's homes. And closing more businesses, ruining more lives, will do absolutely nothing to stop that.

 

[drizgirl]

Death is not the only negative outcome or negative impact. Figure out what causes the flu yet?

Figure out what causes poverty and hunger yet?

 

[drizgirl]

He's gonna hate the summers there.

But he's gonna love tax day.

 

[drizgirl]

And yet, per all I can tell, I am still required to report for jury duty this month where I could be sequestered in an enclosed space with multiple people who are not part of my household. So...

Of course, what could be nerve-wracking about that thought - enclosed space with no ventilation, minimum of two dozen people in the courtroom who are not in my household that I would have to be exposed to for days, weeks or months? And that's not counting the jurors alone in the juror room talking to each other for hours, days, weeks, to determine a ruling. Great idea during this pandemic. Per the government: safe.

And yet, getting a seasonal churro from an outdoor vending cart to eat socially distanced on a planter? Per the government: deadly.


(For reference: I'm not advocating for the churro here. Confession: I don't like churros. But how is that deadly and jury duty not only safe but mandatory?)

I got called for jury duty last month as well. I have a risk factor and got postponed. But I have no reason to believe anything will be any better in May than it would have been in November. Definitely not thrilled with my husband losing his job because it was too dangerous to congregate, but I'm supposed to show up and hang out in an old building with old ventilation systems with a bunch of people from outside my bubble.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Figure out what causes poverty and hunger yet?

Job losses and economic damage began well before government restrictions. Places with less or near no restrictions are not avoiding economic losses. Economic activity is susceptible to outside interference and in no case throughout history has it been protected and expanded by ignoring those outside influences. We have the word quarantine because of merchants.

 

[drizgirl]

Job losses and economic damage began well before government restrictions. Places with less or near no restrictions are not avoiding economic losses. Economic activity is susceptible to outside interference and in no case throughout history has it been protected and expanded by ignoring those outside influences. We have the word quarantine because of merchants.

What a crazy argument. Because there is some economic damage, it's OK to double, triple or quadruple down and add a bunch more? The more the merrier?

Has your income been stopped because of this? Have you lost a business?

 

[lazyboy97o]

What a crazy argument. Because there is some economic damage, it's OK to double, triple or quadruple down and add a bunch more? The more the merrier?

Has your income been stopped because of this? Have you lost a business?

What evidence is there that the scale is orders of magnitude different? Sweden’s economic hit wasn’t a blip compared to others. Since we’re on a Disney site, the scale of the job losses at Walt Disney World were comparable to those at Disneyland showing that restrictions were not the big driver.

 

[drizgirl]

What evidence is there that the scale is orders of magnitude different? Sweden’s economic hit wasn’t a blip compared to others. Since we’re on a Disney site, the scale of the job losses at Walt Disney World were comparable to those at Disneyland showing that restrictions were not the big driver.

So your response is that closing businesses down doesn't cost jobs? Seriously? Tell that to all the small business owners who are losing everything. Most people can't just put their lives on pause.

It's a position of immense economic privilege to not be able to see that.

I'm sure you know DLR and WDW are not identical situations. Nor can you compare TWDC with mom and pop businesses all over the country.

I'm not a "throw it all open with no safeguards" person. But I'm also not a "shut it all down" person. I think we need to use a scalpel rather than a chainsaw when shutting things down. Allow businesses to open with a reasonable plan in place for mitigation. Closing business with no compensation (because all the politicians are politicking rather than doing their jobs) is a huge step. And people just sit around saying "But we need to be safe!" without caring what happens to the people left in its wake.

You didn't answer. Has your income been interrupted through the shut downs? Have you lost health insurance?