EPCOTCenterLover
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I think I’d elect Riverside's sheriff to replace Newsom!
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Surprise! Red Tier Now Begins Sunday; Downtown Disney Restaurants???
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el_super
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How could they have not realized it was a possibility when they decided to reopen? That was always part of the risk.
The goalposts aren't shifting. The goal has always been to limit the spread of the virus to protect lives and conserve health care capacity.
The hospitals are nearing capacity. The alarm bells are ringing. San Bernardino is no longer able to send ambulances to 911 calls. How bad does it have to be before Downtown Disney closes? Bodies in the street bad?
lazyboy97o
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Only bodies that count.
Stevek
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I live out here and he's getting a ton of support for speaking up. That being said, while I'm totally behind him not enforcing certain things, it's still up to every one of us to do the right things.
el_super
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And exactly what are all those counties doing to reduce hospitalizations and ensure emergency capacity? Anything?
If OC runs out of hospital beds, who should we direct our anger to? Michelle Steel? Sherriff Barnes? Ken Potrock?
westie
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Princess Leia has spoken! Watching diners, drive-ins and dives make me wonder how many of these places will survive? Not only the eatery but the suppliers, manufacturers, farmers, all the way up and down the chain. Oh how I'd love just to be worried about a drought and taking shorter showers again.
mickEblu
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Here's the apparent timeline, after the official announcement was released last night at 10pm (so odd on that timing!).
The order began at 12:59pm today, but businesses have until 11:59pm Sunday to comply.
So when Downtown Disney opens on Monday morning, in addition to the stores only allowing 20% of their capacity in to shop, the following locations will be closed;
Carthay Circle Al Fresco Dining
Award Weiners
Taste Pilot's Grill
Fiddler Fifer & Practical Cafe
Ballast Point Brewing Co.
La Brea Bakery Cafe
Naples Ristorante
Uva Bar & Cafe
Ralph Brennan's Jazz Kitchen
Splitsville Luxury Lanes
Tortilla Jo's
Restaurants may still offer "take-out" and "delivery". I can't imagine any of the Downtown Disney places were offering delivery via Doordash or Uber, so the "take-out" is their only option.
What's not quite understood is if you get something via "take-out" at Downtown Disney, are you allowed to sit on the planters in the mall and eat it?
Because the order from the state clearly states that "Outdoor Recreational Facilities" may remain open, but that "no food, beverage or alcohol sales are allowed". What is an "Outdoor Recreational Facility" in the minds of Sacramento? Is that a state campground, and the campground's snack bar must close? Or is an Outdoor Recreational Facility an outdoor mall like Downtown Disney or Fashion Island and all food and beverage stands in an outdoor mall must close? It's very unclear.
Assuming that Downtown Disney does not qualify as an Outdoor Recreational Facility, the following food/beverage locations would be allowed to remain open with their patio tables off-limits on Monday for take-out service only;
Asian Street Eats
Black Tap Burgers & Shakes
Earl of Sandwich
Jamba Juice
Ralph Brennan's Express Window
Salt & Straw
Sprinkles
Starbucks
Wetzel's Pretzels
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el_super
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All food options will be take out only, and no food consumption will be allowed on Disney property.
I thought of you when I read this quote from an OC Register article talking about how restauranteurs are in misery over all the wasted food and supplies they ordered, only to be shut down with very little warning...
Shachi Mehra, chef-owner of Adya in the Anaheim Packing House and Irvine, said when Newsom announced the new state order, the immediate concern was staffing and what to do with perishable items.
“So if you’re in a restaurant preparing for the weekend and you ordered a bunch of stuff and now you have to turn it into to-go? Are you going to use all of that before you have to throw it away? Either you’re going to end up wasting it or donating it, ideally donating it,” Mehra said. “But it’s an expense that you took on that now you can’t use.”
Of course, the larger concern is the overall financial burden. Mehra’s not just worried about her restaurant’s revenue; she’s worried about her staff and the whole industry.
“I have a skeleton crew right now, but I’m going to have to cut it down further if we’re just doing takeout,” she said. “I’m concerned for the people that are working in restaurants. Their sources of income are gone.”
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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As long as people can still go shop to get their $78 over priced 1990's Spider-Bots everthing will be fine.
That's what I feared. That basically shuts down food service at Downtown Disney.
It's a 2,500 foot walk from the middle of Simba parking lot to Black Tap, or roughly a half mile walk. Plus Security/Medical screening. I can't imagine anyone would take anything to-go with those logistics, as whatever hot food you bought would be cold, ice cream melted, etc. by the time you got back to your car. And will Disneyland Security bust you for tailgating in Simba?
I think the exceptions here might be Sprinkles, and maybe select items from Earl of Sandwich.
Otherwise? The restaurant industry at Downtown Disney is dead as of Monday. And the retail locations are now limited to 20% capacity.
Which is why I started this thread, with this sinking feeling that Downtown Disney may be headed to closing again under this current Regional Stay-At-Home-Order for the Mono County Metro Area.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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To be honest I never saw the point of opening DownTown Disney without the parks being open themselves in the first place. Always seemed pointless to go there. There is nothing there retail wise (except the stuff at World of Disney but why would you shop there if you are not visiting the parks?) that you can't get anywhere else. Never should have been opened.
SuddenStorm
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Is there any evidence that Downtown Disney in Anaheim being open contributes to a lack of ambulances in San Bernadino?
Has contact tracing identified a mass covid outbreak that spread amongst patrons of Downtown Disney?
What's the science and data that backs up closing Anaheim because of San Bernadino?
I'm right there with you on the entertainment value of Downtown Disney without the parks open.
Honestly, who would purposely seek out the awful sushi at Splitsville without Pirates of the Caribbean? Why would anyone walk half a mile from a satellite parking lot for a Starbucks without Cars Land?
I do understand there are people who just love all the cheap Chinese made crap they sell at World of Disney and need to fill their homes and their lives with it, but that's not me.
But it was explained to me months ago that for legal and contractual reasons with all their third-party renters that Disney had to reopen Downtown Disney once it was legally allowed last spring. Disney is the property manager here and much of Downtown Disney's tenants are not Disney businesses, and if they had tried to keep businesses closed when it was legal for them to reopen, they had to.
The Mono County Metro Area is a tightly integrated community, but it's not easy to prove those things.
If a butterfly flaps its wings in La Jolla, does a racoon then climb a tree at Mammoth Mountain?
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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Let those retailers leave I say and make it a parking lot again.
Just because I find this so fascinating, the combined population of the Mono County Metro Area (AKA "Southern California") is quite large. It's 23,112,445 people. 23 Million! That's just slightly less than the population of Australia, and two Million more people than the entire state of Florida. Mono County Metro Area rules!
From most populous to least, these are the county totals for the Mono County Metro Area;
Los Angeles County = 10.1 Million
San Diego County = 3.3 Million
Orange County = 3.2 Million
Riverside County = 2.5 Million
San Bernardino County = 2.2 Million
Ventura County = 850,000
Santa Barbara County = 450,000
San Luis Obispo County = 300,000
Imperial County = 180,000
Inyo County = 18,000
Mono County = 14,445
From most populous to least, these are the county totals for the Mono County Metro Area;
Los Angeles County = 10.1 Million
San Diego County = 3.3 Million
Orange County = 3.2 Million
Riverside County = 2.5 Million
San Bernardino County = 2.2 Million
Ventura County = 850,000
Santa Barbara County = 450,000
San Luis Obispo County = 300,000
Imperial County = 180,000
Inyo County = 18,000
Mono County = 14,445
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