Super Early Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 Thread

King Panda 77

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ImperfectPixie said:
You simply can't group Roseanne and James Gunn under the same category. What Gunn did was BEFORE he was hired by Disney, and while he was working for Disney, he did not repeat the behavior. Roseanne has repeatedly said/tweeted horrible things while employed by Disney.

James Gunn being fired was the equivalent of punishing a teenager for something they did when they were 5.
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I agree its apples and grapefruit comparrison.
 
ImperfectPixie

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I did countless hours of research into the whole thing because I didn't want to defend someone who didn't deserve it (Gunn), nor did I want to accuse someone of something they didn't do (Cernovich). Cernovich basically put out a hit on Gunn and used Disney as the hit man. This is yet another perfect example of why zero tolerance doesn't work. I should write a paper about it, lol.
 
Tony Perkis

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ImperfectPixie said:
For serious? Because I really hope so... you got to give the man credit for refusing to accept the horrible treatment of his friend. Not many people would go to bat for someone like that.
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Contrary to what some would suggest, Bautista didn’t burn any bridges at Disney.

There isn’t even a credible rumor out there suggesting he’s not in Vol. 3.

He is still under contract with Disney, and I can say with absolute certainty Gunn doesn’t return if Bautista isn’t in it.
 
MisterPenguin

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Magenta Panther said:
Oh, so you don't see how that works. Pity. And I could turn that comment around and say that you're holding Roseanne to a different standard because her politics don't conform to yours. Which you clearly are. Since you have no trouble defending an ant-Semite, it seems.

And don't make such narrow assumptions about me. You don't know my political leanings. Just because you echo what insiders say on here and set yourself as some kind of authority on the parks doesn't mean you know all, see all. So back off.
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LOL. No. Your arguments are incoherent. I won't stop pointing that out.
 
Tony Perkis

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Magenta Panther said:
Oh, so you don't see how that works. Pity. And I could turn that comment around and say that you're holding Roseanne to a different standard because her politics don't conform to yours. Which you clearly are. Since you have no trouble defending an ant-Semite, it seems.

And don't make such narrow assumptions about me. You don't know my political leanings. Just because you echo what insiders say on here and set yourself as some kind of authority on the parks doesn't mean you know all, see all. So back off.
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Contrary to what you may think, most of us don’t care about Roseanne, just like nobody cared about when Tim Allen’s mediocre show got cancelled.

It’s incredibly evident that you’re coming from a perspective that believes in conservative persecution, and you’re using Gunn has an attempt to even the playing field.

If your point of contention hinges on the inclusion of Roseanne Barr, your initial argument wasn’t particularly strong to begin with.
 
erasure fan1

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Tony Perkis said:
Contrary to what some would suggest, Bautista didn’t burn any bridges at Disney.
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I guess you would have to define burn bridges. He was very outspoken with his criticism of Disney and their decision. And I don't think it's too far off to think he could be on the outs with them. I don't think he will be just for the simple fact that this project has alresdy been so mishandled that from a financial standpoint Disney is just going to shut up and let Marvel do its thing. I could see them killing him off early in the movie so then they fulfill his contract and are done with him.
 
Tony Perkis

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erasure fan1 said:
I guess you would have to define burn bridges. He was very outspoken with his criticism of Disney and their decision. And I don't think it's too far off to think he could be on the outs with them. I don't think he will be just for the simple fact that this project has alresdy been so mishandled that from a financial standpoint Disney is just going to shut up and let Marvel do its thing. I could see them killing him off early in the movie so then they fulfill his contract and are done with him.
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Burn bridges implies erivocably damaging and severing a relationship. Bautista is under contract for a third film, and it has been widely confirmed that they will use the script Gunn wrote prior to his firing.

There isn’t anything out there that suggests he’s about to be blacklisted from Disney, and soon Fox. Literally nothing. This isn’t like Entourage where the petty executive writes Drama off the show for vindictive reasons. Gunn is still writing the script, and agreed to direct the film. Again, there isn’t a shot in hell Gunn returns to this franchise if one of the stipulations means killing off Drax for no other than reason than an executive is butthurt. There’s a less than zero percent chance of that occurring.

And yes, Disney is going to let Marvel do its own thing. Marvel didn’t screw up the Guardians franchise with Gunn’s initial ousting. Alan Horn and Marvel’s parent company did.
 
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Tony Perkis

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Princess Leia said:
Wasn’t there a thread in the politics forum that was strictly for the James Gunn firing? I feel like most of this discussion belongs there.
Edit: here it is: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads...-from-disney-for-inappropriate-tweets.945590/


So, to try and steer this conversation to the actual movie: any guesses on who will be cast as Adam Warlock?
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I’m banned from the politics sub, so I’m not attempting to drive that discussion elsewhere if there are still conversations to be had.
 
Magenta Panther

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ImperfectPixie said:
You simply can't group Roseanne and James Gunn under the same category. What Gunn did was BEFORE he was hired by Disney, and while he was working for Disney, he did not repeat the behavior. Roseanne has repeatedly said/tweeted horrible things while employed by Disney.

James Gunn being fired was the equivalent of punishing a teenager for something they did when they were 5.
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It was Disney firing an employee who posted Tweets involving "jokes" about child molestation, AIDS victims, sexual abuse of women, and so on. Hell, Gunn wrote posts where he identified HIMSELF as a child molester. Not a great fit for a company that's known for family-friendly entertainment. It doesn't matter WHEN Gunn posted that stuff. The mind that would think such stuff was funny in the first place is the issue.

For crying out loud, think about it - would YOU post garbage like that in an attempt to be funny and get attention? And as for Roseanne continuing to be abrasive while working for Disney - well, Gunn left those awful tweets up while working for Disney. He didn't delete them until they were found out. I really don't see how Gunn is more excusable than Roseanne. I think she's got issues and posted a very dumb tweet and she should have kept her mouth shut, but at least she's not a perv.

Now, I'm exiting this conversation. Rationalize all you want about Disney selling out its once-wholesome image for a buck. Such obliviousness and ignorance of what Disney once stood for is something I will never understand from anyone who calls themselves a Disney fan.
 
Tony Perkis

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Magenta Panther said:
It was Disney firing an employee who posted Tweets involving "jokes" about child molestation, AIDS victims, sexual abuse of women, and so on. Hell, Gunn wrote posts where he identified HIMSELF as a child molester. Not a great fit for a company that's known for family-friendly entertainment. It doesn't matter WHEN Gunn posted that stuff. The mind that would think such stuff was funny in the first place is the issue.

For crying out loud, think about it - would YOU post garbage like that in an attempt to be funny and get attention? And as for Roseanne continuing to be abrasive while working for Disney - well, Gunn left those awful tweets up while working for Disney. He didn't delete them until they were found out. I really don't see how Gunn is more excusable than Roseanne. I think she's got issues and posted a very dumb tweet and she should have kept her mouth shut, but at least she's not a perv.

Now, I'm exiting this conversation. Rationalize all you want about Disney selling out its once-wholesome image for a buck. Such obliviousness and ignorance of what Disney once stood for is something I will never understand from anyone who calls themselves a Disney fan.
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You can stop putting jokes in quotations. They were clearly jokes. They weren’t funny, but they are obviously jokes.

Feel free to continue to not respond to my comments, and don’t let the door hit you in the area Trump grabs on the way out.
 
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ImperfectPixie

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Magenta Panther said:
It was Disney firing an employee who posted Tweets involving "jokes" about child molestation, AIDS victims, sexual abuse of women, and so on. Hell, Gunn wrote posts where he identified HIMSELF as a child molester. Not a great fit for a company that's known for family-friendly entertainment. It doesn't matter WHEN Gunn posted that stuff. The mind that would think such stuff was funny in the first place is the issue.

For crying out loud, think about it - would YOU post garbage like that in an attempt to be funny and get attention? And as for Roseanne continuing to be abrasive while working for Disney - well, Gunn left those awful tweets up while working for Disney. He didn't delete them until they were found out. I really don't see how Gunn is more excusable than Roseanne. I think she's got issues and posted a very dumb tweet and she should have kept her mouth shut, but at least she's not a perv.

Now, I'm exiting this conversation. Rationalize all you want about Disney selling out its once-wholesome image for a buck. Such obliviousness and ignorance of what Disney once stood for is something I will never understand from anyone who calls themselves a Disney fan.
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The difference between your argument and mine is that yours is your opinion. I'm not rationalizing anything. He didn't do anything wrong while working for Disney. End of story. You are entitled to your opinion, but opinion doesn't hold water in a court of law, and if this case went to court, Disney would have no recourse against him.
 
BrianLo

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Bautista suddenly shut up months ago out of the blue, he clearly knew.

This whole James Gunn returns decision started occurring months ago over multiple meetings. Bautista got what he wanted and quieted down politely as soon as he was asked.

I see no real risk of his non-return, especially since he was technically 'in the right' on the side of which way the decision blew.
 

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