Storyliving by Disney - a Disney-branded, master-planned home community

[DCBaker]

"Disney will host a groundbreaking ceremony on April 26 for Cotino, its new Storyliving community in Rancho Mirage.

Invitations to the 10 a.m. ceremony were emailed to the media Tuesday.

A spokesperson for Disney said Thursday afternoon that the groundbreaking would not be a public event."

Disney: Groundbreaking ceremony for Cotino in Rancho Mirage set for April 26

Invitations for the April 26 event were emailed out Tuesday.

www.desertsun.com

 

[Disney Irish]

"Disney will host a groundbreaking ceremony on April 26 for Cotino, its new Storyliving community in Rancho Mirage.

Invitations to the 10 a.m. ceremony were emailed to the media Tuesday.

A spokesperson for Disney said Thursday afternoon that the groundbreaking would not be a public event."

Disney: Groundbreaking ceremony for Cotino in Rancho Mirage set for April 26

Invitations for the April 26 event were emailed out Tuesday.

www.desertsun.com

But, but, but, I was told this wasn't going to actually happen because at best it was just a press release and no substance, and that if it did it was going to take years to get out of the development phase....

 

[Californian Elitist]

But, but, but, I was told this wasn't going to actually happen because at best it was just a press release and no substance, and that if it did it was going to take years to get out of the development phase....

California will soon be no more because of the mass exodus.

 

[Disney Irish]

California will soon be no more because of the mass exodus.

And don't forget that Disney isn't investing in California anymore because of that.

 

[truecoat]

California will soon be no more because of the mass exodus.

Yes, the price of housing must be in a free fall.

 

[Californian Elitist]

And don't forget that Disney isn't investing in California anymore because of that.

Get your final Disneyland visits in now!

 

[TP2000]

I just got home this afternoon after a week out there in the desert. All us old fogeys purposely leave town before the Coachella crowds show up. And these are folks that have owned their vacation homes there for many years, or retired there on purpose 5 years ago. You could see all the trucks coming into town full of party tents and furniture and accoutrements, and that's our cue to leave!

That area was bustling even without Coachella! There's so much pent up demand for travel and missed family events, that it will take the rest of 2022 to work through all those cancelled events of the last two years in big vacation areas like Palm Springs Metro.

What's stupid is that I'm headed back there to Rancho Mirage next week, but during the weekdays, to have a nice Easter vacation with my extended family. But we'll be miles from Coachella and up on a hill, instead of down in the valley.

But that doesn't mean that the California exodus is not real, or that Los Angeles is not draining away tax-paying, law-abiding middle and upper-middle class familes to leave that once great city to homeless druggies and meth zombies camping under freeway overpasses. That's happening. It's real. It's going to be a huge problem for years. You can't scare away middle-class families of taxpayers and replace them with homeless people and meth addicts living in old Winnebagos parked on streets and think your society will be just fine.

How many people moved away from Los Angeles in COVIDâs 1st full year?

Here’s a look at how the 10 most populous metro areas in the U.S. changed during the first full year of the pandemic.

www.foxla.com

 

[TP2000]

And don't forget that Disney isn't investing in California anymore because of that.

I don't know anyone who has ever said that, do you?

Disney is moving thousands of good paying, white-collar jobs out of California to Florida. But I haven't seen any statement or sentiment from anyone here, or from Disney itself, that Disney will be stopping investment in California.

 

[TP2000]

Yes, the price of housing must be in a free fall.

The speed and admittedly hugely profitable ease that I was just able to arrange to sell my OC home of 30 years to an investment firm was mind-boggling. Not a single open house, nor a sign on my lawn. I didn't have to have pro cleaners, or stagers, or a crazy realtor baking cookies in my oven to evoke homey vibes (Annette Bening in American Beauty reference).

It was all done via emails, a home visit and then an inspection, and a few Zoom calls and FedEx deliveries.

I'm still in awe. Yet thrilled.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don't know anyone who has ever said that, do you?

Disney is moving thousands of good paying, white-collar jobs out of California to Florida. But I haven't seen any statement or sentiment from anyone here, or from Disney itself, that Disney will be stopping investment in California.

Yep it was said here many times by different posters.

Even you yourself intimated that Disney wouldn't invest in California in any significant way due to all the strife they've gone through with Anaheim, and then again with California during the pandemic.

 

[Disney Irish]

The speed and admittedly hugely profitable ease that I was just able to arrange to sell my OC home of 30 years to an investment firm was mind-boggling. Not a single open house, nor a sign on my lawn. I didn't have to have pro cleaners, or stagers, or a crazy realtor baking cookies in my oven to evoke homey vibes (Annette Bening in American Beauty reference).

It was all done via emails, a home visit and then an inspection, and a few Zoom calls and FedEx deliveries.

I'm still in awe. Yet thrilled.

I'm happy you got your house sold. But do you really think it'll sit vacant? It only get bought so quickly because it'll be used likely as a rental property by the investment firm. If they didn't see a way to make money from it they wouldn't have bought it so fast.

 

[TP2000]

Yep it was said here many times by different posters.

Even you yourself intimated that Disney wouldn't invest in California in any significant way due to all the strife they've gone through with Anaheim, and then again with California during the pandemic.

I don't remember that at all. I do believe that the timeline for investment in Marvel Land is pushed further into the 2020's, and I have long said the Disneyland Forward plan is something for the 2030's. (For those folks who thought they'd start building a bridge from Critter Country over Disneyland Drive next year or something).

Yet those delays in Anaheim investment are mostly about the ongoing closures of the two Chinese theme park resorts. Hong Kong Disneyland and Shanghai Disneyland are still closed. That's gonna leave a mark on future investment plans for all parks.

But I don't remember anyone saying or "intimating" that capital investment in Disney's Anaheim theme parks was going to stop because of the exodus of the middle class from this state.

If anything, all those middle class families leaving California for Arizona and Utah and Texas and Tennessee will want to come back to vacation here every year or two. Because Grandma is still here, or Uncle Bert still has a place in Huntington Beach. And also because Disneyland is here.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don't remember that at all. I do believe that the timeline for investment in Marvel Land is pushed further into the 2020's, and I have long said the Disneyland Forward plan is something for the 2030's. (For those folks who thought they'd start building a bridge from Critter Country over Disneyland Drive next year or something).

Yet those delays in Anaheim investment are mostly about the ongoing closures of the two Chinese theme park resorts. Hong Kong Disneyland and Shanghai Disneyland are still closed. That's gonna leave a mark on future investment plans for all parks.

But I don't remember anyone saying or "intimating" that capital investment in Disney's Anaheim theme parks was going to stop because of the exodus of the middle class from this state.

If anything, all those middle class families leaving California for Arizona and Utah and Texas and Tennessee will want to come back to vacation here every year or two. Because Grandma is still here, or Uncle Bert still has a place in Huntington Beach. And also because Disneyland is here.

If you say so my friend, if you say so.

 

[TP2000]

I'm happy you got your house sold. But do you really think it'll sit vacant? It only get bought so quickly because it'll be used likely as a rental property by the investment firm. If they didn't see a way to make money from it they wouldn't have bought it so fast.

No, it will be sold quickly, I'm sure.

It's a gorgeous home with a huge lot of mature landscaping and a great hillside view. Villa Park's public middle and high school is top rated, and there's an excellent private high school a mile away. The crime rate here in this part of OC is so low it's non-existent. The OC Sherriffs patrol the streets, wave at everyone, and respond immediately to anything. The streets are clean and well maintained. Laughing children ride their bikes around with American flags flying off the back, and there's a fun social scene during patio season and at Christmas. It's a suburban paradise. Location, location, location.

 

[TP2000]

If you say so my friend, if you say so.

I would not expect Disney to be building any more cubicle farm office parks in Glendale or Burbank.

Maybe that's what you're thinking about? Disney clearly has a plan to move 2,000 good paying white-collar jobs for middle and upper-middle class wage earners out of California to Florida. And that big Lake Nona campus they are all being moved to has only had Phase One announced. There's a Phase Two and Phase Three, with a few thousand more white-collar Californian jobs being shipped out of the state later in the 2020's.

But capital investment in Disney's movie studio complex or it's Anaheim theme park complex? I don't remember anyone here talking about that investment stopping at all, aside from the usual Covid related problems that all industries have faced for the last two years.

The middle classes are leaving California in droves. But that doesn't mean they'll stop adding new rides to Disneyland.

 

[Disney Irish]

But that doesn't mean that the California exodus is not real, or that Los Angeles is not draining away tax-paying, law-abiding middle and upper-middle class familes to leave that once great city to homeless druggies and meth zombies camping under freeway overpasses. That's happening. It's real. It's going to be a huge problem for years. You can't scare away middle-class families of taxpayers and replace them with homeless people and meth addicts living in old Winnebagos parked on streets and think your society will be just fine.

How many people moved away from Los Angeles in COVIDâs 1st full year?

Here’s a look at how the 10 most populous metro areas in the U.S. changed during the first full year of the pandemic.

www.foxla.com

And yet those houses that those people who might have left aren't left empty, they are snatched up real quick just like your house.

So its disingenuous to state that California is having a mass exodus if houses aren't remaining empty, someone has to be filling them.

Also as has been discussed here many times a majority of moves that happened during the pandemic was intrastate, ie moves to other regions in California. Not to mention that a majority of incoming residents to California for the past several decades are immigrants from other countries who earn high wages, most of which stopped during the pandemic and are now starting up again.

 

[Disney Irish]

I would not expect Disney to be building any more cubicle farm office parks in Glendale or Burbank.

Maybe that's what you're thinking about? Disney clearly has a plan to move 2,000 good paying white-collar jobs for middle and upper-middle class wage earners out of California to Florida. And that big Lake Nona campus they are all being moved to has only had Phase One announced. There's a Phase Two and Phase Three, with a few thousand more white-collar Californian jobs being shipped out of the state later in the 2020's.

But capital investment in Disney's movie studio complex or it's Anaheim theme park complex? I don't remember anyone here talking about that investment stopping at all, aside from the usual Covid related problems that all industries have faced for the last two years.

The middle classes are leaving California in droves. But that doesn't mean they'll stop adding new rides to Disneyland.

Again if you say so my friend, if you say so.

Oh and after recent events in the news about Florida and Disney, I wouldn't be surprised if Disney wasn't rethinking about some of those 2000 jobs moving, especially since it appears a large majority of them don't want to move.

 

[TP2000]

And yet those houses that those people who might have left aren't left empty, they are snatched up real quick just like your house.

So its disingenuous to state that California is having a mass exodus if houses aren't remaining empty, someone has to be filling them.

Also as has been discussed here many times a majority of moves that happened during the pandemic was intrastate, ie moves to other regions in California. Not to mention that a majority of incoming residents to California for the past several decades are immigrants from other countries who earn high wages, most of which stopped during the pandemic and are now starting up again.

Since you used to work in the mortgage industry, you likely know more about it that I do. I sold my house to an investment firm. They'll sell it to some family at some point, but I'm not going to worry about it. I'm thrilled with how it all turned out and I'm moving to Utah after a summer at the beach house.

Look, I know it's embarassing for some folks to admit that California is losing a few hundred thousand people per year while states like Texas and Florida grow by hundreds of thousands per year.

But it's happening. It's not a typo. It's being tracked by the US Census Bureau. California saw a net loss of 262,000 people between 2020 and 2021.

Big population drops in Los Angeles, San Francisco transforming urban California

Los Angeles lost more residents than any other county in the nation during the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic, new census data show.

www.latimes.com

The data, published Thursday by the U.S. Census Bureau, show California as a whole saw a net loss of nearly 262,000 residents between July 1, 2020, and July 1, 2021, with the lion’s share of the losses coming from Los Angeles County: 159,621 people. The second-largest countywide loss in the nation was New York, which declined by about 111,000 residents.

 

[TP2000]

Again if you say so my friend, if you say so.

Find some quotes. There's a search function. I think you are confused about what we've been talking about here for the past year or two.

I don't remember anyone saying that the middle-class exodus from California was going to stop Disneyland from building new rides. I'd remember something like that, because I would argue against them that they are wrong.

The cubicle army is being moved to Florida. The theme parks will remain here and continue to expand.

Oh and after recent events in the news about Florida and Disney, I wouldn't be surprised if Disney wasn't rethinking about some of those 2000 jobs moving, especially since it appears a large majority of them don't want to move.

I doubt it. The time to announce that was a few weeks ago. Unless Florida really does make life painful for Disney by revoking their Reedy Creek exemptions from 1967, Burbank will continue to ship good paying jobs to Florida. But then, even if Reedy Creek gets blown up by Tallahassee, it will just make the operation of WDW subject to only a weaker and lighter version of California's theme park industry oversight they wield over Disneyland.

In my opinion, it would do WDW some good to have to live up to Disneyland's standards.

 

[Disney Irish]

Look, I know it's embarassing for some folks to admit that California is losing a few hundred thousand people per year while states like Texas and Florida grow by hundreds of thousands per year.

But it's happening. It's not a typo. It's being tracked by the US Census Bureau. California saw a net loss of 262,000 people between 2020 and 2021.

Big population drops in Los Angeles, San Francisco transforming urban California

Los Angeles lost more residents than any other county in the nation during the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic, new census data show.

www.latimes.com

The data, published Thursday by the U.S. Census Bureau, show California as a whole saw a net loss of nearly 262,000 residents between July 1, 2020, and July 1, 2021, with the lion’s share of the losses coming from Los Angeles County: 159,621 people. The second-largest countywide loss in the nation was New York, which declined by about 111,000 residents.

And by the time the next census rolls around it very well could be the opposite.

Using census data from the middle of a pandemic as some proof of a mass exodus is disingenuous at best.