Rumor Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath

RSoxNo1

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'Stitch's Great Escape' going away possibly.....

Of the two choices, I would have thought they would remove the 'Laugh Floor'.
It seems to me it would be a more cost effective choice since it burns more payroll to operate ( both CMs and Entertainment Cast behind the curtains ).
Also, I would have thought it would be a more appealing target as the square footage inside is larger then the spot where 'Stitch's' is located.

Interesting.

Of the two, I would keep 'Stitch' and dump 'Laugh Floor'.


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Stitch is a substantially worse attraction. Why would you keep that over Laugh Floor?
 

RSoxNo1

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How does FastPass not affect the rate of people flowing through attractions per hour? I've been in numerous lines where there is a hold on standby for X period of time with a significantly smaller volume of people passing in that same time as a standby line and throw in the then stopping the lines, shifting to the other group going, it most certainly adds up. Maybe someone with real OPs numbers could help us out here with numbers past versus present.
Fastpass does not affect the capacity of the ride. It affects the capacity of the ride devoted to Standby guests.
 

Mike S

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I addressed that in a subsequent post. I don't think it's fair to criticize Parks for using Disney Animation IP as if that's un-original. I can see that argument with Marvel or Lucas, but not WDAS.
It's unoriginal for WDI because the idea came from WDAS.
May I present Tron Lightcycle Power Run at Shanghai Disneyland's Tomorrowland.....
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#thanksShanghai
I believe @BrianLo and @lazyboy97o have plenty to say about Tron since they've ridden it.
WDW-centric fans vastly under-appreciate what Disney is coming off of in the last 5-10 years in terms of capital expenditures. DCA 2.0, Dream, Fantasy, MM+ / FP+, and Shanghai were projects of massive proportions. All of these new WDW projects still represent a "decrease" in the workload of WDI and the capital budget of TP&R overall.
There are times in the 80's and 90's where much more was happening around the world and WDW wasn't left to stagnate like it was the last decade.
It is a unique experience, and with the proper story it will make for a great attraction. Heck, you're just sitting down in The American Adventure Experience, and that's lauded as an excellent attraction.
American Adventure is supposed to just be a show where you sit and watch. That ride system doesn't really work for immersion and was made obsolete just a year later when Back to the Future (now Simpsons) opened.
This vaguely reminds me of the old Hanna Barbara ride at Uni.
That's because it is.

HB -> Jimmy Neutron -> Despicable Me
 

Brad Bishop

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For where Stitch is, if they actually closed the gift shops there, and maybe even the QS restaurant, they actually have plenty of space to do something cool/interesting.

- I'd take the gift shop closing over the QS restaurant if they had to close something.

Kind of like if they closed both Buzz and Monsters then they'd have plenty of space at that location (and room behind it to expand, if they wanted to).
 

MrHappy

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SGE aside, the Speedway has been mentioned as a waste as well. What if the Speedway was to go? I wonder the outcry of loosing a "classic" (or at least an "original"). I second most here, I never ride it and often hold my breath passing it.
 

Brad Bishop

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SGE aside, the Speedway has been mentioned as a waste as well. What if the Speedway was to go? I wonder the outcry of loosing a "classic" (or at least an "original"). I second most here, I never ride it and often hold my breath passing it.

You're always going to have someone complain but I think the speedway could go and, overall, most wouldn't miss it.

Cue the parent: "My little stephen LOVES the Speedway and a visit to MK wouldn't be complete without it."

If you wanted to add a Tron coaster then that would be a pretty good spot for it.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
You're always going to have someone complain but I think the speedway could go and, overall, most wouldn't miss it.

Cue the parent: "My little stephen LOVES the Speedway and a visit to MK wouldn't be complete without it."

If you wanted to add a Tron coaster then that would be a pretty good spot for it.
They'd need some kind of transition point over there. I always feel like the stretch from Mad Tea Party past the Speedway is kind of no-man's land between Fantasyland and Tomorrowland and Tron would be a VERY Tomorrowland-ish thing to have that visible from Fantasyland.
 

Mike S

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You're always going to have someone complain but I think the speedway could go and, overall, most wouldn't miss it.

Cue the parent: "My little stephen LOVES the Speedway and a visit to MK wouldn't be complete without it."

If you wanted to add a Tron coaster then that would be a pretty good spot for it.
Answer to parent: "Take him to the local go-kart track. It's more than likely both better and cheaper."
 

doctornick

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For where Stitch is, if they actually closed the gift shops there, and maybe even the QS restaurant, they actually have plenty of space to do something cool/interesting.

- I'd take the gift shop closing over the QS restaurant if they had to close something.

Kind of like if they closed both Buzz and Monsters then they'd have plenty of space at that location (and room behind it to expand, if they wanted to).

If they closed one of Buzz or Laugh Floor, they have a ton of room behind that building they could use for a larger footprint without having to close both attractions.

I've long hoped to see Laugh Floor closed (and moved to DHS, as I previously mentioned in this thread) and combining that footprint with the undeveloped backstage space to make a larger attractions like (for example) bringing the Tron Cycles from Shanghai.
 

Brad Bishop

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They'd need some kind of transition point over there. I always feel like the stretch from Mad Tea Party past the Speedway is kind of no-man's land between Fantasyland and Tomorrowland and Tron would be a VERY Tomorrowland-ish thing to have that visible from Fantasyland.

I thought about that. I agree with you that it's very much a "no man's land". My thinking was that 20,000 Leagues, at one time, kind of worked as a transition ride and maybe Tron would, too. Granted, less so than 20,000 Leagues, though some of that may be nostalgia.

The Speedway really doesn't scream Fantasyland or Tomorrowland. At one time it was cool (1970s). That was back when you didn't have go-cart tracks everywhere, which are far more fun, and the interstate system wasn't complete (which really leant itself more to Autopia in those terms but sort of the same idea if you stretch it).

Autopia, on the other hand, I think, is really neat. I love the way that it, the monorail, and at one time the People Mover all intertwine back there in that heavy foliaged area. I wouldn't want that one to go away.
 

doctornick

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They'd need some kind of transition point over there. I always feel like the stretch from Mad Tea Party past the Speedway is kind of no-man's land between Fantasyland and Tomorrowland and Tron would be a VERY Tomorrowland-ish thing to have that visible from Fantasyland.

Ironically Wreck It Ralph is the perfect transition IP for such a space: Sugar Rush ride on the FL side of the space and arcade/Hero's duty ride on the TL side. Or some sort of attraction that mashes the different games together but has the Sugar Rush aesthetics on the FL side.

Anyhow, if they really much keep the Speedway, converting it to electric cars and adding some futuristic (like Tron) or outer space aesthetic would make it a lot more palatable.
 

Thanks phoenicians

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Ironically Wreck It Ralph is the perfect transition IP for such a space: Sugar Rush ride on the FL side of the space and arcade/Hero's duty ride on the TL side. Or some sort of attraction that mashes the different games together but has the Sugar Rush aesthetics on the FL side.

Anyhow, if they really much keep the Speedway, converting it to electric cars and adding some futuristic (like Tron) or outer space aesthetic would make it a lot more palatable.
Has WIR actually been confirmed as the ip for this? I agree though that it would be perfect in the speedway area as imo the FL to TL transition is the worst land to land transition in WDW.
 

Tavernacle12

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Has WIR actually been confirmed as the ip for this? I agree though that it would be perfect in the speedway area as imo the FL to TL transition is the worst land to land transition in WDW.

It's been heavily implied by the insiders as a replacement for Stitch, and at one point it was supposedly going to replace speedway but that's not the plan anymore, if I remember the discussion correctly.
 

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