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wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
The CDC represents the overwhelming consensus of the scientific medical community.

If you've been talking to your dad the pediatrician and other people in the field of medicine, you having be talking to enough of them if you think the CDC have a secret agenda hiding the truth.
The revolving door practices of the CDC, Big Pharma, FDA and Government is absolutely insane and easily verifiable. Chronyism at its finest
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
The revolving door practices of the CDC, Big Pharma, FDA and Government is absolutely insane and easily verifiable. Chronyism at its finest
What if I told you that a vast majority of the people you just cited are truly looking out for the public interest and not personal gain and the whole industry should not be judge on the actions of a few?

Cynicism isn't intellectualism.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
https://web.archive.org/web/2017050...vaccinated-6-to-12-year-old-U.S.-children.php

I do not put all my eggs in one basket and am not saying this study is definitive proof, but definitely enough to raise questions or have a ealthy discussion about the topic. Enjoy the read.

Vaccines are among the greatest achievements of biomedical science and one of the most effective public health interventions of the 20th century [1]. Among U.S. children born between 1995 and 2013, vaccination is estimated to have prevented , with overall cost savings of $1.38 trillion [2].

The study basically says more research is needed. But it's lede shouldn't be buried: vaccination prevented 322 million illnesses, 21 million hospitalizations and 732,000 premature deaths -- stated as a fact. Compare that to slight health problems which may or may not be attributed to vaccines.

The question is: do you want your child to possibly have more allergies or to be dead?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Ingesting heavy metals allows your body to detox them. Injecting them deep into tissue and then absorbed directly into the blood stream is a completely different scenario.

If heavy metals consumed did not get your bloodstream, the iron, copper, manganese, zinc, chromium, selenium, lithium, cobalt, silicon, boron, etc... you need to live would never get to your body's cells. There is no biological mechanism for "detoxifying" heavy metals in your digestive system.

Otherwise a vitamin pill with essential minerals would be a waste.
 

King Panda 77

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
If heavy metals consumed did not get your bloodstream, the iron, copper, manganese, zinc, chromium, selenium, lithium, cobalt, silicon, boron, etc... you need to live would never get to your body's cells. There is no biological mechanism for "detoxifying" heavy metals in your digestive system.

Otherwise a vitamin pill with essential minerals would be a waste.
As would Mineral water.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
What if I told you that a vast majority of the people you just cited are truly looking out for the public interest and not personal gain and the whole industry should not be judge on the actions of a few?

Cynicism isn't intellectualism.
I would agree that a majority are absolutely in it to help people. My wife even has friends that work at th CDC herein Atlanta. But they will tell you the corrupt ones are extremely powerful. The majority who have the public interest in mind know when t keep their mouth if they want to keep their job,
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
The question is: do you want your child to possibly have more allergies or to be dead?
If I had child, I would not vaccinate them. I have not had any vaccinations in over 25 years. I have not had the flu either. Just my personal beliefs. It is not my place to tell another what they should do with their child or themselves.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
If I had child, I would not vaccinate them. I have not had any vaccinations in over 25 years. I have not had the flu either. Just my personal beliefs. It is not my place to tell another what they should do with their child or themselves.
That clears things up.

I'll just tap out again.

No use in pursuing this conversation with an anti-vaxxer.

Enjoy herd immunity and I hope, if you do have have children, they are spared measles, mumps, or heaven forbid, polio, because of your poor decisions.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
If I had child, I would not vaccinate them. I have not had any vaccinations in over 25 years. I have not had the flu either. Just my personal beliefs. It is not my place to tell another what they should do with their child or themselves.

Your disease-free life exists because other people 'risked' the vaccine and we, as a First World socitey are not riddled with small pox or measles or polio or other killers/maimers.

Your disease-free life exists because of herd immunity, which is necessary for some folk who truly can not endure the vaccinations (like those with compromised immune systems). But you voluntarily chose not to vaccine, which isn't herd immunity, its social paracitism. It's the disease version of the so-called 'Welfare Queens."
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
That clears things up.

I'll just tap out again.

No use in pursuing this conversation with an anti-vaxxer.

Enjoy herd immunity and I hope, if you do have have children, they are spared measles, mumps, or heaven forbid, polio, because of your poor decisions.
So this topic should only be discussed with pro vaccination minded individuals. Got it. Your passive aggressive comments are simply sugar coated hostility which I can understand. You would rather sabotage the relationship (i.e. discussion) in an effort to gain a sense of closure after you chose to withdraw.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Your disease-free life exists because other people 'risked' the vaccine and we, as a First World socitey are not riddled with small pox or measles or polio or other killers/maimers.

Your disease-free life exists because of herd immunity, which is necessary for some folk who truly can not endure the vaccinations (like those with compromised immune systems). But you voluntarily chose not to vaccine, which isn't herd immunity, its social paracitism. It's the disease version of the so-called 'Welfare Queens."
Am I not exposed to the exact same germs that every other person on earth is? Have I never been exposed to people that have an illness which I could contract? Is my health is only a result of the people who go to CVS and get a free flu shot or any other vaccination? Apologies If i do not subscribe to that belief. If the only "disease" I have is what you labl as "social paracitism", I can live with that. And I dont need a vaccination for it
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Am I not exposed to the exact same germs that every other person on earth is? Have I never been exposed to people that have an illness which I could contract? Is my health is only a result of the people who go to CVS and get a free flu shot or any other vaccination? Apologies If i do not subscribe to that belief.

When was the last time you were exposed to small pox?
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
So this topic should only be discussed with pro vaccination minded individuals. Got it. Your passive aggressive comments are simply sugar coated hostility which I can understand. You would rather sabotage the relationship (i.e. discussion) in an effort to gain a sense of closure after you chose to withdraw.
Anti-vaxxers and flat earthers are the same to me.

I'm not in a habit of discussing science with people who reject its basic principles.
 

Diablo

Active Member
I've heard of taking excessive doses of vitamin C to kick colds and such. What did this overdose consist of ?
According to the packaging, I was under the maximum dose. I took 3 chewables at night and again in the morning for 3 1/2 days. They ended up turning my stomach into something of an acid bath. Everything I ate or drank just bubbled immediately (and painfully) into gas and bits. I was up for 3 nights throwing up almost all night. It was kinda like the flu, but with just one severe symptom.
 

Pardonmypixiedust

Well-Known Member
Anti-vaxxers and flat earthers are the same to me.

I'm not in a habit of discussing science with people who reject its basic principles.
It also appears you are not into discussing topics with people who have a different point of view without being condescending.

I had that last week ... But i got better ;)
Glad you're on the mend ! :p
 

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