Status of the flu in DW

Otterhead

Well-Known Member
in spite of agreeing with your basic position on vaccinations, I find that you and others like you in this thread are insufferable, pretentious twits
It's a shame that facts are considered "pretentious" or something that can only be provided by a "twit". Or that someone presenting basic facts would be responded to with name calling and a request to never speak again.

It's good that you aren't an anti-vaxxer and I would certainly hope that if you visit WDW, Disneyland, or any theme park during the height of flu season that you and your kids would have the flu shot to help prevent you and others from spreading it.
 

Tom P.

Well-Known Member
It's a shame that facts are considered "pretentious" or something that can only be provided by a "twit". Or that someone presenting basic facts would be responded to with name calling and a request to never speak again.

It's good that you aren't an anti-vaxxer and I would certainly hope that if you visit WDW, Disneyland, or any theme park during the height of flu season that you and your kids would have the flu shot to help prevent you and others from spreading it.
I have only addressed the actual issue of vaccinations in one single post in this thread. Most of my posts have been directed toward the issue of the tenor and tone, as well as generally usefulness, of this thread. I would hope it would have been made clear by now that my issue is not with people presenting facts and evidence to support the importance of vaccinations, but with the form and tone of such messages.

I understand that people are passionate on both sides of this issue. But I also understand that simply yelling at someone and tell them that they are stupid and deserve to be ashamed of themselves, which has been the general tone of most of the posts arguing for vaccinations, accomplishes little or nothing in terms of actually changing someone's mind. In fact, it tends to have exactly the opposite effect. And there is simply no call for it. It should be possible to have a civilized discussion even with people you think are woefully ignorant of relevant and important facts, and even on issues as serious as this. Sadly, that kind of discourse seems more and more rare on the Internet.

And, just to clarify, I never asked that the poster stop speaking. I asked that he stop speaking to me specifically. There is a difference. And my attitude in that post simply derives from the fact that it seems obvious that even a call for civility from someone who shares a position is not going to be met with anything but hostility.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Shaming is a useful social tool. Like all tools, it can be abused. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be used when it serves the greater good. Social scientists show over and over again that people are more likely to do the right thing when they think others are watching.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
I have only addressed the actual issue of vaccinations in one single post in this thread. Most of my posts have been directed toward the issue of the tenor and tone, as well as generally usefulness, of this thread. I would hope it would have been made clear by now that my issue is not with people presenting facts and evidence to support the importance of vaccinations, but with the form and tone of such messages.

I understand that people are passionate on both sides of this issue. But I also understand that simply yelling at someone and tell them that they are stupid and deserve to be ashamed of themselves, which has been the general tone of most of the posts arguing for vaccinations, accomplishes little or nothing in terms of actually changing someone's mind. In fact, it tends to have exactly the opposite effect. And there is simply no call for it. It should be possible to have a civilized discussion even with people you think are woefully ignorant of relevant and important facts, and even on issues as serious as this. Sadly, that kind of discourse seems more and more rare on the Internet.

And, just to clarify, I never asked that the poster stop speaking. I asked that he stop speaking to me specifically. There is a difference. And my attitude in that post simply derives from the fact that it seems obvious that even a call for civility from someone who shares a position is not going to be met with anything but hostility.

Sometimes, there just aren’t two sides to an argument. Sometimes, one side is just right and the other is just wrong.

A perfect example is flat earthers. The earth is not flat. If it’s your opinion that it is flat. Then you are just wrong. Your opinion is worthless. Same with antivaxxers. Except they are actually a public health issue. Their opinions are worthless.
 

Otterhead

Well-Known Member
And my attitude in that post simply derives from the fact that it seems obvious that even a call for civility from someone who shares a position is not going to be met with anything but hostility.
Not to speak for MrPenguin or others, but it seems like their posts aren't directed at you at all. They aren't being hostile towards yourself. They're saying that the kind of person who ignores science and remains steadfastly anti-vax, putting their children and others in danger out of sheer ignorance and stubbornness, is a poor visitor to the parks and should be confronted. Since you say you aren't that kind of person, I'm not sure why you'd interpret their comments as hostile toward you.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
I guess whenever an accidental “and” inserted by an overzealous iPhone starts giving folks deadly diseases?

Or perhaps we could start shaming those people who like to act like pretentious :redacted: in regards to grammatical and or spelling mistakes on a largely mobile platform?
Oh, well, I guess we'll just shame the iPhones for getting ahead of their owners then.
 

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