Matt_Black
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I refuse to set foot in the Main Street Starbucks. Bring back the baked goods!
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Starbucks among other new vendors at Disney
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rob0519
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Outsourcing the MSB to Starbucks is simply another cost saving, profit enhancing move. No longer does WDW need the labor and the equipment to turn out a dozen or more types of commercially produced, but still high quality pastries as they did from the 1990s through maybe 2010 or so. At that time they significantly reduced the number of offerings while the quality remained fairly high.
While Starbucks does many things right, they do not produce the quality of baked goods previously available. This goes along with the reduction and quality of items sold in the parks, the reduction of quality and items served at table service restaurants, and the reduction in general in the quality of service and maintenance at the resort.
Get used to it folks. We frequent visitors can lament the changes all we want, but as long as there are first time visitors who think this is the norm, spend their money and come back one or two more times it's a downhill slide.
It's still one of the most incredible resorts on the planet, but it's certainly not the one some of us remember.
While Starbucks does many things right, they do not produce the quality of baked goods previously available. This goes along with the reduction and quality of items sold in the parks, the reduction of quality and items served at table service restaurants, and the reduction in general in the quality of service and maintenance at the resort.
Get used to it folks. We frequent visitors can lament the changes all we want, but as long as there are first time visitors who think this is the norm, spend their money and come back one or two more times it's a downhill slide.
It's still one of the most incredible resorts on the planet, but it's certainly not the one some of us remember.
I tried Joffrey's twice, both times the cappucino was weak and luke warm. That was my last time I'll spend money for substandard coffee.
VERY WELL SAID, I HOPE THIS TREND STOPS.
if you outsource all of your products and employees it will just be another amusement park run by kids who don't care.
Quailty shows through and sends a message to the patrons. be careful Disney that you don't forget your core principals.
Quailty shows through and sends a message to the patrons. be careful Disney that you don't forget your core principals.
Jon81uk
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It's not really outsourced though, just franchised, all the staff are still Disney CMs.
Eoin Mc Andrew
Member
Isn't the whole point of Main Street not to put us back into like the good ole days? Pretty sure StarBucks wasn't around in the good ole days...........
Matt_Black
Well-Known Member
Don't you remember that one scene in Pollyanna where she's drinking a frappuccino?
copcarguyp71
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For my dollar (which has gone elsewhere for a while) and my personal experience I will say that bringing outside vendors in who plaster their corporate logos and have stores that feel like I could wander into them in my daily life just works against the suspension of disbelief. It used to be that walking through the gate of a park meant leaving the world (and daily drudgery) behind. Now with them piercing the veil of pixie dust with larger numbers of outside vendors it just diminishes the feeling of escapism. I guess to some extent the outside vendors have always been there as "sponsors" of pavilions and attractions but it just seems a little more "in your face" in recent years. It could always be too that my aging eyes are getting more cynical every year though...
or a combination of all of this.
or a combination of all of this.
Matt_Black
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I know people bring up Coke, but the spot where the advertising is most prominent, Casey's Corner, just fits. Both baseball and Coke have been around a LONG darn time, and are both very much Americana. (If I'm not mistaken, baseball great and world-class jerkwad Ty Cobb was one of the early investors in Coca-Cola).
SyracuseDisneyFan
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I miss the ice cream cookie sandwiches the Old Main Street bakery used to have.
For my dollar (which has gone elsewhere for a while) and my personal experience I will say that bringing outside vendors in who plaster their corporate logos and have stores that feel like I could wander into them in my daily life just works against the suspension of disbelief. It used to be that walking through the gate of a park meant leaving the world (and daily drudgery) behind. Now with them piercing the veil of pixie dust with larger numbers of outside vendors it just diminishes the feeling of escapism. I guess to some extent the outside vendors have always been there as "sponsors" of pavilions and attractions but it just seems a little more "in your face" in recent years. It could always be too that my aging eyes are getting more cynical every year though...
You are so right on, I still can fell the thrill when I walk in from the tunnel and see Main Street for the first time, Its an escape from reality. Its great and I just hope someday I don't emerge from the tunnel to see flashing fast food signs and no unique flavors to Main Street USA.
I fear it will happen , they destroyed the feel of the Polynesian lobby with no regard for its history I think the people in charge now are not understanding what Disney is all about..
RedDad
Smitty Werben JagerManJensen
I have to say the SB locations are a huge bonus for this WDW fan. "Outside businesses" don't bother me, as that has been a mainstay of the parks since they opened, but I do understand the reticence some have regarding large chains in the parks. I too was a bit worried when I first heard about it, but as others have said, Disney got this right. In fact, unless you are actively looking for them, you would never know the Starbucks stores are there. No garish advertising, etc. outside the stores.
We just visited the parks a week ago and patronized each of the MK, EP, and HS locations multiple times. I'm a regular SB customer, so I already like their product (though all of the people buying "fake coffee" drinks annoy me...), but the level of service in each of the stores was frankly amazing. The MK store in particular was extremely full, with long lines each time I visited. And yet I never waited more than 10 minutes total. I wait longer than that sometimes at a regular SB! I was also pleasantly surprised to find the prices shockingly uninflated...at Disney!
This was and will continue to be a win-win for Disney in my book, as long as the same level of service continues.
We just visited the parks a week ago and patronized each of the MK, EP, and HS locations multiple times. I'm a regular SB customer, so I already like their product (though all of the people buying "fake coffee" drinks annoy me...), but the level of service in each of the stores was frankly amazing. The MK store in particular was extremely full, with long lines each time I visited. And yet I never waited more than 10 minutes total. I wait longer than that sometimes at a regular SB! I was also pleasantly surprised to find the prices shockingly uninflated...at Disney!
This was and will continue to be a win-win for Disney in my book, as long as the same level of service continues.
my only issue is with the Main Street Bakery location and how they never tried to incorporate the old fresh made cakes and buns into the operation. The SB there is just the same as any one in America. They should have tried to make it fit better into the main street feel.
My idea would have been the same cakes and pastries as before serving Starbuck coffee products. The others I don't really care about they can be regular SB's.
Raineman
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FYI I remember Pepsi at the parks and I am one of the the few that likes Pepsi over Coke.
It is not like they have a GIANT Starbuck logo in front of the place, the do keep aesthetics.
Starbucks does not bother me but, I will never spend $4.00 for a cup of coffee, people want to line up and throw cash at them fine. The theme parks can have a Starbucks on every corner, what do I care.... I just walk by.
As a Canadian, I heartily endorse at least one Tim Hortons on the WDW property! After a week in Florida, I am dying for a Timmie's triple/triple, and always hit up the first one I see across the border.
Maybe we can get a Wal Mart in downtown Disney to replace the Disney Store next.
One of the things I used to enjoy going to Europe was the fact all of the stores and restuarants were different I enjoyed the differences and of course I missed ceratin foods from home but it was the experience that counted and the differences that made it fun. When you can travel 3000 miles and find everything is the same how sad. I feel that when I go to Disney I don't need the exact same stores and resturant chains that I can get at home, I want different. Different is fun.
Cmdr_Crimson
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No one remembers in the 1980's that Columbian Coffee (Juan Valdez & his Donkey) was the official coffee of the Disney Parks..It was a commercial staple during the Holiday parades on TV..
BJones82
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As I have been saying , I don't mind sponsorships, If Starbucks became the official coffee of Disney that would be fine. I just don't like a Starbucks stores in Disney specifically the one on Main Street. The same as I would not like a 7-11 in Disney or a Taco Bell store etc. in Disney. It dilutes the Disney Image.