Starbucks among other new vendors at Disney

[POLY LOVER]

one thing detractors will never ever say is Starbucks cakes are magical or special in any way and someday when Strabucks gets replaced no one will ever remember what baked goods they served because they will never ever make an impression on anyone who visits there. Disney went from Unique to ordinary on this move. Maybe the new Disney new slogan should be we strive to be ordinary.

the only thing they will remember is there was nowhere to sit and how they had to juggle cups and containers and eat them on the curbside. How they spill $6 coffee

 

[POLY LOVER]

These pictures don't do the bakery justice believe me there was more to it than those pics. These pics don't show the delicious coffee cake, and quite a few other items they did offer. Wish I had some pictures to post of the entire line of baked goods they had.

unfortunatey they were the only images still available of the MSB, yes there was more much more.

 

[Master Yoda]

one thing detractors will never ever say is Starbucks cakes are magical or special in any way and someday when Strabucks gets replaced no one will ever remember what baked goods they served because they will never ever make an impression on anyone who visits there. Disney went from Unique to ordinary on this move. Maybe the new Disney new slogan should be we strive to be ordinary.

Starbucks cakes are magical and special in every way. They have made an impression on me when I visit.

 

[britdaw]

I really love Starbucks, but honestly, I wish Disney would put in their own kind of coffee shop. I'd rather see something like Clarabell's Cafe or something instead of a big franchise like Starbucks when I'm at WDW.

 

[POLY LOVER]

I really love Starbucks, but honestly, I wish Disney would put in their own kind of coffee shop. I'd rather see something like Clarabell's Cafe or something instead of a big franchise like Starbucks when I'm at WDW.

BINGO, there is nothing about Starbucks that Disney could not have done themselves. They have enough influence to get a coffee roaster to make them a special blend and they could have even sold in pound souveiner containers to take home. Once agin something unique to WDW that you can't find on any corner in the USA.

 

[Master Yoda]

I really love Starbucks, but honestly, I wish Disney would put in their own kind of coffee shop. I'd rather see something like Clarabell's Cafe or something instead of a big franchise like Starbucks when I'm at WDW.

I would not mind that either, but the masses tend to want something that is not only consistent, but familiar. Starbucks fits that description like a glove.

If you want good niche coffee there are places you can go to get it at WDW, in particular Kona Cafe at the Poly. The 100% kona press pot is some of the best coffee you will find in or outside of WDW.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Don't be alarmed but I hear that that the renovation at the Liberty Tree is actually a conversion to a Hooters. They plan to keep to the spirit of the place though and provide only full wool and cotton hotpants and scoop tshirts to the waitress. Alas the magical turkey and chicken will be replaced by wings.

 

[Master Yoda]

Don't be alarmed but I hear that that the renovation at the Liberty Tree is actually a conversion to a Hooters. They plan to keep to the spirit of the place though and provide only full wool and cotton hotpants and scoop tshirts to the waitress. Alas the magical turkey and chicken will be replaced by wings.

I found a picture from the uniform testing.

 

[bakntime]

one thing detractors will never ever say is Starbucks cakes are magical or special in any way and someday when Strabucks gets replaced no one will ever remember what baked goods they served because they will never ever make an impression on anyone who visits there. Disney went from Unique to ordinary on this move. Maybe the new Disney new slogan should be we strive to be ordinary.

the only thing they will remember is there was nowhere to sit and how they had to juggle cups and containers and eat them on the curbside. How they spill $6 coffee

Somebody should have told Walt this when he opened Disneyland in 1955. There were more sponsors per attraction in that park than at any point in the rest of the park's history. Everywhere you could get a drink or something to eat had a sponsor slapped on it.

Disney tried the "generic" coffee thing. But they have to get their coffee from somewhere. Why not a reputable company with a quality product? The prices are actually not much higher "generic coffee shop" prices across the country, so it's not like Starbucks affiliation is costing the Disney guest more than it would for "generic" coffee.

Just because some of these locations have a Starbucks sign on the door doesn't make them any less interesting or unique. Each WDW Starbucks location blends seamlessly with the environment its in. And compared to what was there before, how is the Main Street Bakery any different? Show me a comparison photo that paints the new Main Street Bakery featuring Starbucks in a poor light against the previous Bakery. Do you even know what the Bakery sells now? Do you even know what it sold before? Do you even really know what's different? How about a few examples to prove your point that "Disney went from Unique to ordinary". What was so unique about the Bakery previously? Anything? Photos? Example menu items?

 

[POLY LOVER]

Somebody should have told Walt this when he opened Disneyland in 1955. There were more sponsors per attraction in that park than at any point in the rest of the park's history. Everywhere you could get a drink or something to eat had a sponsor slapped on it.

Disney tried the "generic" coffee thing. But they have to get their coffee from somewhere. Why not a reputable company with a quality product? The prices are actually not much higher "generic coffee shop" prices across the country, so it's not like Starbucks affiliation is costing the Disney guest more than it would for "generic" coffee.

Just because some of these locations have a Starbucks sign on the door doesn't make them any less interesting or unique. Each WDW Starbucks location blends seamlessly with the environment its in. And compared to what was there before, how is the Main Street Bakery any different? Show me a comparison photo that paints the new Main Street Bakery featuring Starbucks in a poor light against the previous Bakery. Do you even know what the Bakery sells now? Do you even know what it sold before? Do you even really know what's different? How about a few examples to prove your point that "Disney went from Unique to ordinary". What was so unique about the Bakery previously? Anything? Photos? Example menu items?

I guess you only read the last item posted , all of your questions can be answered by reading the thread.
Maybe I'll just make you state what makes the Starbucks on main street unique in any way from the 2000 locations across america? Do you understand the definition of UNIQUE ?

 

[HolleBolleGijs]

Guys, I've tried to hold my tongue, but this is ridiculous. Clearly Polylover's mind won't be changed, as he cherry-picks what he wants to refute, and ignores anything that is actually valid. So for the sake of all of our sanity, can we please put this to rest?

 

[POLY LOVER]

Why do you come to Disney if it is not for UNIQUE and Different? I'm confused by those who settle now for ordinary? I remember people stating THE DISNEY WAY, it marked a quality and flare that they only could do. Is it now total APATHY by the fans? There was no thought behind this MSB change.

 

[Master Yoda]

I guess you only read the last item posted , all of your questions can be answered by reading the thread.
Maybe I'll just make you state what makes the Starbucks on main street unique in any way from the 2000 locations across america? Do you understand the definition of UNIQUE ?

Do you? It was a bakery. They are hardly a one of kind "can only find it at Disney" thing. Even the Boardwalk resort has one.

 

[wm49rs]

Why do you come to Disney if it is not for UNIQUE and Different? I'm confused by those who settle now for ordinary? I remember people stating THE DISNEY WAY, it markeda quality and flare that they only could do. Is it now total APATHY by the fans?

No, it's not apathy. Trolling now, perhaps. But not apathy. TWDC has always had corporate partners. And quite frankly, going from a coffee-flavored syrup to actual coffee is an improvement....

 

[POLY LOVER]

Guys, I've tried to hold my tongue, but this is ridiculous. Clearly Polylover's mind won't be changed, as he cherry-picks what he wants to refute, and ignores anything that is actually valid. So for the sake of all of our sanity, can we please put this to rest?

like bad TV or Radio you can just tune out and go read other threads.

 

[POLY LOVER]

Do you? It was a bakery. They are hardly a one of kind "can only find it at Disney" thing. Even the Boardwalk resort has one.

now I know you are kiddin me,

 

[POLY LOVER]

Do you? It was a bakery. They are hardly a one of kind "can only find it at Disney" thing. Even the Boardwalk resort has one.

COMING SOON STARBUCKS LOCATION but that would be fine because its not Main Street.

 

[Master Yoda]

now I know you are kiddin me,

No I am not. What was so unique about the MSB bakery that I can't find at another bakery on or off property? The only thing close to "unique" about it was it was the only bakery in MK. Other than that, it was a pretty run of the mill, mass production bakery.

 

[bakntime]

I guess you only read the last item posted , all of your questions can be answered by reading the thread.
Maybe I'll just make you state what makes the Starbucks on main street unique in any way from the 2000 locations across america? Do you understand the definition of UNIQUE ?

So your contention is that the Main Street Bakery, up until the day before it closed to make way for Starbucks, served unique goods (items you couldn't get elsewhere at WDW)? And that when Starbucks took over that Main Street location, these "unique baked goods available exclusively at Main Street Bakery" were no longer available anywhere else?

I don't think that's how it went down, because I honestly don't remember any "exclusive" items being sold at the Main St Bakery. I think that the Main Street Bakery, long before Starbucks was even considered, was already selling the same typical baked goods and desserts that were available in all the other "dessert case" locations across all four parks and resorts. But if someone wants to provide photos of the Bakery's "final hours" of operations, showing with these "unique" baked goods, then please do. I'm not talking about stuff from 10 or 15 years ago, I mean truly unique products that were available only at the Bakery up until the moment it closed to convert to Starbucks.

But either way, if that's the case, I can live with the loss of a cinnamon bun (which, by the way, is now available at Gaston's Tavern), because the loss of a cinnamon bun resulted in this:

http://parksandresorts.wdpromedia.c...blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/msb891023.jpg

which is so much better looking, and in my opinion, much more unique looking than this:

http://www.disunplugged.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/main-street.jpg

The new bakery looks beautiful (it actually fits in with the Main Street theme). And I've never been in a Starbucks that looks like photo #1 (honestly, you can look at that picture and tell me that looks like a Starbucks???). However, the old bakery (photo #2) looks like a mall food court. (Look at that mall tile floor compared to the new wooden floors at the Starbucks. Amazing transition for the better.)

There are so many places to buy desserts and baked goods at WDW that I don't even care if a cinnamon bun or a croissant or something might be missing (which probably had nothing to do with Starbucks moving it whatsoever, as the baked goods menus at WDW had long-since changed before the switch and the cinnamon bun, as I mention a few posts down, is now at Gaston's). At least the coffee is palatable now.

 

[HolleBolleGijs]

like bad TV or Radio you can just tune out and go read other threads.

Yeah, well, like I mentioned in earlier posts, I'm kind of an argument addict, so against my better judgement I keep coming back for more. I'm allowed to comment if I have something to say, and I'd just like to point out that this thread has literally gone nowhere in 22 pages.

Here are some highlights for your original post. People keep making valid arguments against these points, and yet you are still posting basically the same thing over and over again.

First I want to say I love Starbucks they are a great company that treats their employees well.

Yet you say they are poor quality...

I have an issue as Disney progresses to bring franchise vendors into the Parks.

Refuted. Franchises have been in the parks since day 1.

I can't get things like the Bakery sold anywhere but Main Street USA.. My visits to Disney are to escape the norm and find one of a kind items.

Wrong. There are certainly other places across the country where you can get things "like the bakery." It may not be identical, but you're implying that the MSB offered the highest-quality baked goods anywhere in the country. If you truly believe this, you are sorely missing out.

One last point to add: I sincerely doubt that the items sold in the MSB were all baked fresh in the bakery itself. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (someone who actually has facts), but I just can't believe that.

I sincerely understand the fact that you miss the bakery as it was. But it is your opinion. People are attacking you because you are trying to force your opinion on everyone else by presenting it as empirical fact. We are no further in this discussion than we were 22 pages ago.

ETA: I am not apathetic toward WDW. I just enjoy things that aren't necessarily baked goods on Main Street, like the amazing feats of engineering and the talented performers.