Star Wars: The Acolyte

[erasure fan1]

isn't it then the responsibility of the entire fandom to condemn and thus throw out such bad actors if they don't want to be lumped in with those doing the attacks?

I'd say we do. A lot of us here that are critical of Disney star wars try and say the people who harass, bully and attack don't represent the fans. But sure as the twin suns will set on Tatooine, we'll be told nope, it is so much bigger than you think. Or somehow we are hiding something. The other way I combat them, is I don't give them a platform. I don't repost their articles, tweets, YouTube content and say, see look at all these hateful fans! It just gives them a bigger voice in my opinion.

 

[doctornick]

It seems they people making the show went out of their way to not follow the lore as the only way distance itself from what came before

As I have said before, I think the show is kinda mediocre. It's not bad like Boba Fett nor do I feel like I'm wasting my time watching it - but I am not exactly enthused about it and overflowing with excitement to see the next episode, etc.

That said, I'm perplexed about this statement. How is this show not following "the lore"? And how is it "distancing itself" from established Star Wars canon? I don't understand. It's rather unremarkable as a series but doesn't see like anything that is trying to rewrite or change the IP in any substantial way.

 

[C33Mom]

As I have said before, I think the show is kinda mediocre. It's not bad like Boba Fett nor do I feel like I'm wasting my time watching it - but I am not exactly enthused about it and overflowing with excitement to see the next episode, etc.

That said, I'm perplexed about this statement. How is this show not following "the lore"? And how is it "distancing itself" from established Star Wars canon? I don't understand. It's rather unremarkable as a series but doesn't see like anything that is trying to rewrite or change the IP in any substantial way.

To the contrary, there are nods to really deep cuts in SW lore. I think those who say the series has no respect for the IP either aren’t that familiar with Legends or it’s a criticism that there isn’t a high enough ratio of white guys to everyone else.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

or it’s a criticism that there isn’t a high enough ratio of white guys to everyone else.

…welcome to the club

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

When in doubt... well, you know how it goes.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

When in doubt... well, you know how it goes.

…that meant something completely different in college

 

[Phroobar]

When in doubt... well, you know how it goes.

When in doubt, blow it up? That is what the Muppets and Michael Bay do.

 

[Tha Realest]

So uh not great.

The Nielsen Streaming Charts For The Acolyte - Week 1 - Jedi Temple Archives

Nielsen have finally released their numbers for early June, which means we now have numbers for The Acolyte. Luminate have their own streaming charts so it will be interesting to see how the two compare. What does Nielsen say about … Continue reading →

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[BrianLo]

So uh not great.

The Nielsen Streaming Charts For The Acolyte - Week 1 - Jedi Temple Archives

Nielsen have finally released their numbers for early June, which means we now have numbers for The Acolyte. Luminate have their own streaming charts so it will be interesting to see how the two compare. What does Nielsen say about … Continue reading →

www.jeditemplearchives.com

I finally agree. In so far as I always wanted to compare like methodology to like methodology. Basically Nielsen on Nielsen, since Disney company is selectively sporadic and Luminate is new.

The show cost remains irrelevant, I’m not sure why every source is so fixated on those figures. That’s a very typical spend for most mainline D+ offerings.

But if we continue to also see the significant downtrend that luminate carries, we’ll start to parse out the dwindling buisness case for season two. Which I’m still partially benchmarking as Shogun viewership. We kind of need 300M minutes a week numbers for whatever business case is internally made based on their past productions.

 

[C33Mom]

I wonder how many people (like myself) told their friends that it’s interesting but not great, and to wait to stream until the whole series is completed because some individual reposted are unsatisfying. I don’t know what Disney’s target streaming numbers are, but I would like to see a second season focused on more complex characters (and no flashbacks to Brendock).

 

[Tha Realest]

I wonder how many people (like myself) told their friends that it’s interesting but not great, and to wait to stream until the whole series is completed because some individual reposted are unsatisfying. I don’t know what Disney’s target streaming numbers are, but I would like to see a second season focused on more complex characters (and no flashbacks to Brendock).

I had some optimism for this going in, if nothing else than how great S1 of Russian Doll was and a something other than the Mandoverse. My optimism was tempered with the trailers, and frankly, life and work has been so busy I’m at the “we’ll see how the season is recieved before I jump in” phase of life. Suffice it to say, the chatter hasn’t been great (and yes, I tune out the predictable review bombing stuff).

 

[erasure fan1]

The show cost remains irrelevant, I’m not sure why every source is so fixated on those figures. That’s a very typical spend for most mainline D+ offerings.

I think most high profile ip shows get that same kind of scrutiny D+ or not. Rings of power had the same issue. Andor was what, 250mil? That also had higher expectations based on the budget. I think it's pretty natural for people to associate a higher budget and having a higher quality product. If acolyte had a 90mil budget like Kenobi, I don't think people bring it up at all. I'd say most things in life have expectations based on cost. Does it matter what this show cost? No, as long the general audience loves it. But I don't think you'll ever get away from the budget vs success comparison.

 

[networkpro]

Whomever was in charge of production needs to take a course in plot development from the makers of Bluey... or Hulk needs to direct. Space witch bad, Jedi smash! Don't need 4 episodes of remorseful Jedi moping around d in isolation just waiting to die.

 

[Tha Realest]

Don't need 4 episodes of remorseful Jedi moping around d in isolation just waiting to die.

But enough about The Last Jedi…

 

[BrianLo]

I think most high profile ip shows get that same kind of scrutiny D+ or not. Rings of power had the same issue. Andor was what, 250mil? That also had higher expectations based on the budget. I think it's pretty natural for people to associate a higher budget and having a higher quality product. If acolyte had a 90mil budget like Kenobi, I don't think people bring it up at all. I'd say most things in life have expectations based on cost. Does it matter what this show cost? No, as long the general audience loves it. But I don't think you'll ever get away from the budget vs success comparison.

I don't disagree, it of course factors. I've just seen many sources (beyond the one I was quoting) that seem to imply the cost is somehow unexpected or egregiously out of step for Acolyte. It's just generally what the non-void produced tentpole shows tend to generally cost.

Rather, that's not the stand out determinant of its success. Most of the things I am comparing it against have second season renewals that have relatively 'low viewership', have costs in the same ballpark. I suspect though if the Nielsen rating sink to the 200's that luminate implies it will, that threshold isn't being met.

 

[MisterPenguin]

No one watched it...

Why ‘The Acolyte’ Was Disney’s #2 Most-Watched Show Of 2024, And Still Cancelled

The Acolyte, it turns out, was Disney Plus's second most-watched series of the year, and it still ended up cancelled. Why?

www.forbes.com

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No one watched it...

Why ‘The Acolyte’ Was Disney’s #2 Most-Watched Show Of 2024, And Still Cancelled

The Acolyte, it turns out, was Disney Plus's second most-watched series of the year, and it still ended up cancelled. Why?

www.forbes.com

…yeah…it got cancelled…because no one watched it.

You gotta stop taking your streaming talking points from hacks and podcasters.

The minute…the very first second…streaming profits start to actually boost TWDC company and take the burden off parks a little bit…I’m sure you’ll be the first to know…

Wall Street will tell you

 

[erasure fan1]

No one watched it...

How many times did it break into the top 10 for streaming? Sure it was number 2 on D+, congratulations you're the fastest sloth. It was supposed to be your premier star wars show on D+. It was expected to compete with the big dogs. Not get beat by an antique show. As I said before, if Disney actually thought it was a good show worth continuing, they would retool the budget. Not cancel it. So when all is said and done, yea, it didn't have the viewership.

 

[Disstevefan1]

No one watched it...

Well, some people watched it anyway

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

How many times did it break into the top 10 for streaming? Sure it was number 2 on D+, congratulations you're the fastest sloth. It was supposed to be your premier star wars show on D+. It was expected to compete with the big dogs. Not get beat by an antique show. As I said before, if Disney actually thought it was a good show worth continuing, they would retool the budget. Not cancel it. So when all is said and done, yea, it didn't have the viewership.

Started unimpressive and went straight down

Mainly because it was wooden and stupid

Well, some people watched it anyway

Sounds like the same people who defend paying twice the price for 2/3 the stuff in the parks