TP2000
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Not sure, but he certainly has a face made for voiceover work.
He was pretty funny in a couple episodes of Portlandia though.
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Not sure, but he certainly has a face made for voiceover work.
He was pretty funny in a couple episodes of Portlandia though.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
It is getting a lavish land, just not in the US.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
NOT by Disney it's not - Oriental Land Company is building the attraction that Frozen deserves... Ironic is it not.
tokengator
Active Member
I am not sure how this qualifies as an example. We know Star Wars is in fact getting a land so....
danlb_2000
Premium Member
The point was that Frozen made record money and isn't getting a big lavish land.
tokengator
Active Member
The poster quoted my post saying that the movie is making obscene money so hopefully that keeps disney's focus to make sure they do great things with the star wars land.
So yes the poster was trying to draw a comparison that just because Star Wars makes bundles of cash it doesn't mean disney will do anything special, because...Frozen!....there is a huge difference though. We don't have a Frozen land planned (to my knowledge)here like we do with Star Wars...so the attempt to mock disney's efforts here seem weak at best. The situations are not analogues at all.
Had disney made a Frozen land and half-assed it, then ya -- point taken
dstrawn9889
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boba fett origin story... Jango goes to Kamino. Cloned and grown, jango gets head cut off boba takes starship and armor. all done in AOTC
note2001
Well-Known Member
Seriously true. Disney marketing bombards us with so much positive regarding their products that it makes it difficult to tell the real reviews from the Disney funded ones. And then there are those who just jump on the band wagon because, hey, it's Disney and/or Star Wars.
I'm sure I'll like it, but LOVE it as all these folks seem to be claiming? It will have to be one very special movie to do that. (Sorry, LOTR holds that title in my heart)
rucifee
Well-Known Member
New account, immediately starts posting pro SW / Disney stuff, calls someone jaded who disagrees.
Yup, another Disney PR team member.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
The problem is that the lands are too specific and in a lot of cases there is not much more that can be added without being redundant. They can't really grow as they become layered over time. Instead they can get a few additions, remain the same for years and eventually, at great cost that helps to hinder continued investment, get replaced.
barkerbird
Active Member
Who are you referring to?..
tokengator
Active Member
lmao. oh boy! I am BUSTED! Remember kids, Just because you think green men are following you doesn't mean they aren't following you!
god forbid I actually some things about disney or star wars. That is impossible! I must work for disney!
After reading many many posts over the last few days I did come to a conclusion about ford91, yes. The guy is hands down the most negative poster i've read so far on this board, if you disagree than more power to you but his posts speak for themselves. Honestly, if you hate something as much as that guy appears I really don't get the point of spending so much time on it. Why not spend the energy and time on something you do enjoy? He is of course entitled to whatever he wants with his time, it is just something I would never do. Plenty things I dislike in this world and I spend very little time or thought on it because life is short enough as it. We of course are different people and I will never understand that mentality.
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tokengator
Active Member
Not really disagreeing with you, but trying to get more context to your point. Do you feel this way about any/all themed lands or IP specific themed lands? Because your point would apply to both, wouldn't it?
In the case of star wars they have so many different worlds/planet i think that leaves a lot of opportunity for growth -- but I do concede that this is unique
rucifee
Well-Known Member
You aren't paying attention, or you have an agenda if you think ford91exploder hates Disney. Maybe pay more attention so you can see through your Disney employee mask and read what he has to say, you might realize he is critical because he loves Disney and doesn't hate it. You don't understand because you don't want to.
tokengator
Active Member
sure thing
I've read plenty 'criticism' of disney on here. Plenty of which I wholeheartedly agree with. There is a difference between criticism and being a hater...I guess we see what we want to see.
Eckert
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These movie review tweets are the ultimate fluff; they mean nothing to me. When you're watching the world premiere of one of the most anticipated movies ever, it's going to be extremely easy to be overly-positive.
I remember another movie that was praised endlessly upon it's arrival...
I remember another movie that was praised endlessly upon it's arrival...
tokengator
Active Member
I trust JJ Abrams and Kasdan much more than George Lucas..but you are right that people can caught up in the moment.
Phantom Menace did not last long before it was universally mocked. JarJar alone was tough to overcome.
the circumstances are also different this time around. The time between the RoJ and Phantom Menace was much longer than the time between this movie and RiS. I think prior to Phantom Menace, people so starved for anything Star Wars, we had a lot of people wanting it to be better than it was. They watched the movie and just the shear want of anything star wars and wanting it to be good made them go into denial for a brief moment...it was soooo terrible that it was impossible to sugarcoat for any extended period of time and that is why we saw a quick smackdown of the positive comments pretty much before the opening weekend was over
This time the prequals have left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths. I know a lot of people that are skeptical of this movie going in..So if it withstands the initial wave I think that is a very good sign. I wont be seeing this movie for a couple weeks so I don't have to deal with the insane crowds, and by then we should have a better grasp of where this movie stands..but as a star wars fan it is hard to not get excited over the glowing comments, especially since the prequals sucked so bad
Phantom Menace did not last long before it was universally mocked. JarJar alone was tough to overcome.
the circumstances are also different this time around. The time between the RoJ and Phantom Menace was much longer than the time between this movie and RiS. I think prior to Phantom Menace, people so starved for anything Star Wars, we had a lot of people wanting it to be better than it was. They watched the movie and just the shear want of anything star wars and wanting it to be good made them go into denial for a brief moment...it was soooo terrible that it was impossible to sugarcoat for any extended period of time and that is why we saw a quick smackdown of the positive comments pretty much before the opening weekend was over
This time the prequals have left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths. I know a lot of people that are skeptical of this movie going in..So if it withstands the initial wave I think that is a very good sign. I wont be seeing this movie for a couple weeks so I don't have to deal with the insane crowds, and by then we should have a better grasp of where this movie stands..but as a star wars fan it is hard to not get excited over the glowing comments, especially since the prequals sucked so bad
tokengator
Active Member
George Lucas’s 5 stages of Star Wars grief
George Lucas is conflicted.
More specifically: George Lucas is conflicted about the fact that Star Wars has moved on without him. And really, who can blame him? What began more than 40 years ago as a few character sketches in the recesses of his brain has become a worldwide phenomenon, grossing billions of dollars at the box office and through video games, merchandise, comics, television shows, and whatever else Disney cooks up. After all, Disney owns everything Lucasfilm ever did or will do; it bought Lucas's company for $4 billion in 2012.
Now, as Episode VII – The Force Awakens ramps up the franchise's publicity machine to welcome a new generation of Star Wars fans, Lucas is in an odd spot. Even if new director J.J. Abrams owes the entire universe to Lucas, this new chapter is very much Abrams's own. Technically, Lucas no longer has anything to do with Star Was, even though he once had everything to do with Star Wars. The prevailing sentiment seems to be that Lucas had his chance to make more Star Wars with the prequel trilogy, and that he botched it.
So while everyone falls into a deliriously happy spiral over how The Force Awakens is the sequel that real fans have been waiting for since the beginning, its creator has been trundling around the edges of the frenzy as a "creative consultant," looking on with the hangdog expression of someone on the outskirts who can't quite decide whether he cares enough to make a play for acceptance.
The situation is clearly affecting Lucas; some of his recent interviews indicate that he's feeling a whole maelstrom of emotions over the loss of the franchise, even as he insists otherwise. Thus, here are George Lucas's five stages of Star Wars grief, in his own words.
1) Denial
When it was first confirmed that a Star Wars sequel was happening and that Lucas wouldn't be involved, reports emerged that his lack of participation wasn't necessarily because he didn't want to be involved. But no: He had been working on a new trilogy, and Disney (his new Lucasfilm overlords) had scrapped it.
In a clear bid to make it appear as though bygones were bygones, Lucas told USA Today in January, "It's better for me to get out at the beginning of a new thing and I can just remove myself. The time is more important to me than the money."
And maybe that was true! But putting in the work to draw up a brand new trilogy only to have a company reject it feels less like dodging a bullet and more like a crushing blow.
2) Anger
Lucas isn't quick to anger, or at least not unaware enough to express overt displeasure to the press after handling media for more than 40 years. But that hasn't stopped him from going on the record with statements that make it clear he's not altogether thrilled with the direction of his former franchise.
For example: When Page Six asked Lucas last December if he was curious to see what Abrams had done with the new Star Wars, Lucas's answer was terse and to the point: "Not really."
Then this November, he ramped up the rhetoric for Vanity Fair, saying "there's more to [Star Wars] than just spaceships," and he hopes "the Force doesn't muddled into a bunch of garbledegook."
Step back, people. We've got a live one.
3) Bargaining
For Lucas, the bargaining came early.
Despite saying in 2008 that there "definitely wouldn't" be another sequel trilogy (because "The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader"), he nonetheless presented outlines for one during the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney in an effort to retain some control of the series — and they were rejected.
But in recent interviews, Lucas has reasoned that the problem wasn't necessarily his ideas. It was just that Disney had its own concept of where Star Wars should go next. "The [ideas] that I sold to Disney, they came up to the decision that they didn't really want to do those," Lucas told CinemaBlend earlier this year. "So they made up their own."
If only Disney had bought his ideas; if only they'd realized Vader was the whole point of Star Wars; if only, if only, if only.
4) Depression
Just a few weeks ago, as the opening of The Force Awakens began to draw nearer, Lucas's sound bites took a turn for the melancholy. After years of bracing himself for the moment when a successor would take over the world he created, that moment was now hurtling toward him at an inescapable pace.
When Vulture asked him about how he liked The Force Awakens, after confirming that he had in fact seen a screening of the film, Lucas gave a perfectly passive — but still very telling — answer: "I think the fans are going to love it," he said. "It’s very much the kind of movie they’ve been looking for."
"It's very much the kind of movie they've been looking for" does not in any way mean, or even imply, "It's a good movie." But nice try.
Granted, it must be very weird to watch a world and characters you created become so much bigger than yourself that they no longer belong to you. Lucas and Abrams both have their names attached to Star Wars, but really, Star Wars belongs to its fans. Ownership isn't quite what it used to be, and from that perspective, it's understandable if Lucas is a little sad.
5) Acceptance
Amidst all the fervor and speculation around the new movie, Lucas has been slightly more verbose than usual on the subject of his lost galaxy. In a December 5 Washington Post profile, he described how he felt about going to see The Force Awakens in one of the most apt and on-the-nose metaphors he has maybe ever used:
I gotta go to the wedding. My ex will be there, my new wife will be there, but I’m going to have to take a very deep breath and be a good person and sit through it and just enjoy the moment, because it is what it is and it’s a conscious decision that I made.
Because really, what can you do if you're the figurehead creator of a wildly popular franchise and have a reported $5 billion to show for it?
Maybe you just relax, accept that there's not a whole lot you can do, shrug your shoulders, and get back to making experimental films. Que sera, sera — and if you're Lucas, "que sera" translates to a hell of a lot more sequels for as long as Disney can manage it, so he might as well get comfy with the idea now.
George Lucas is conflicted.
More specifically: George Lucas is conflicted about the fact that Star Wars has moved on without him. And really, who can blame him? What began more than 40 years ago as a few character sketches in the recesses of his brain has become a worldwide phenomenon, grossing billions of dollars at the box office and through video games, merchandise, comics, television shows, and whatever else Disney cooks up. After all, Disney owns everything Lucasfilm ever did or will do; it bought Lucas's company for $4 billion in 2012.
Now, as Episode VII – The Force Awakens ramps up the franchise's publicity machine to welcome a new generation of Star Wars fans, Lucas is in an odd spot. Even if new director J.J. Abrams owes the entire universe to Lucas, this new chapter is very much Abrams's own. Technically, Lucas no longer has anything to do with Star Was, even though he once had everything to do with Star Wars. The prevailing sentiment seems to be that Lucas had his chance to make more Star Wars with the prequel trilogy, and that he botched it.
So while everyone falls into a deliriously happy spiral over how The Force Awakens is the sequel that real fans have been waiting for since the beginning, its creator has been trundling around the edges of the frenzy as a "creative consultant," looking on with the hangdog expression of someone on the outskirts who can't quite decide whether he cares enough to make a play for acceptance.
The situation is clearly affecting Lucas; some of his recent interviews indicate that he's feeling a whole maelstrom of emotions over the loss of the franchise, even as he insists otherwise. Thus, here are George Lucas's five stages of Star Wars grief, in his own words.
1) Denial
When it was first confirmed that a Star Wars sequel was happening and that Lucas wouldn't be involved, reports emerged that his lack of participation wasn't necessarily because he didn't want to be involved. But no: He had been working on a new trilogy, and Disney (his new Lucasfilm overlords) had scrapped it.
In a clear bid to make it appear as though bygones were bygones, Lucas told USA Today in January, "It's better for me to get out at the beginning of a new thing and I can just remove myself. The time is more important to me than the money."
And maybe that was true! But putting in the work to draw up a brand new trilogy only to have a company reject it feels less like dodging a bullet and more like a crushing blow.
2) Anger
Lucas isn't quick to anger, or at least not unaware enough to express overt displeasure to the press after handling media for more than 40 years. But that hasn't stopped him from going on the record with statements that make it clear he's not altogether thrilled with the direction of his former franchise.
For example: When Page Six asked Lucas last December if he was curious to see what Abrams had done with the new Star Wars, Lucas's answer was terse and to the point: "Not really."
Then this November, he ramped up the rhetoric for Vanity Fair, saying "there's more to [Star Wars] than just spaceships," and he hopes "the Force doesn't muddled into a bunch of garbledegook."
Step back, people. We've got a live one.
3) Bargaining
For Lucas, the bargaining came early.
Despite saying in 2008 that there "definitely wouldn't" be another sequel trilogy (because "The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader"), he nonetheless presented outlines for one during the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney in an effort to retain some control of the series — and they were rejected.
But in recent interviews, Lucas has reasoned that the problem wasn't necessarily his ideas. It was just that Disney had its own concept of where Star Wars should go next. "The [ideas] that I sold to Disney, they came up to the decision that they didn't really want to do those," Lucas told CinemaBlend earlier this year. "So they made up their own."
If only Disney had bought his ideas; if only they'd realized Vader was the whole point of Star Wars; if only, if only, if only.
4) Depression
Just a few weeks ago, as the opening of The Force Awakens began to draw nearer, Lucas's sound bites took a turn for the melancholy. After years of bracing himself for the moment when a successor would take over the world he created, that moment was now hurtling toward him at an inescapable pace.
When Vulture asked him about how he liked The Force Awakens, after confirming that he had in fact seen a screening of the film, Lucas gave a perfectly passive — but still very telling — answer: "I think the fans are going to love it," he said. "It’s very much the kind of movie they’ve been looking for."
"It's very much the kind of movie they've been looking for" does not in any way mean, or even imply, "It's a good movie." But nice try.
Granted, it must be very weird to watch a world and characters you created become so much bigger than yourself that they no longer belong to you. Lucas and Abrams both have their names attached to Star Wars, but really, Star Wars belongs to its fans. Ownership isn't quite what it used to be, and from that perspective, it's understandable if Lucas is a little sad.
5) Acceptance
Amidst all the fervor and speculation around the new movie, Lucas has been slightly more verbose than usual on the subject of his lost galaxy. In a December 5 Washington Post profile, he described how he felt about going to see The Force Awakens in one of the most apt and on-the-nose metaphors he has maybe ever used:
I gotta go to the wedding. My ex will be there, my new wife will be there, but I’m going to have to take a very deep breath and be a good person and sit through it and just enjoy the moment, because it is what it is and it’s a conscious decision that I made.
Because really, what can you do if you're the figurehead creator of a wildly popular franchise and have a reported $5 billion to show for it?
Maybe you just relax, accept that there's not a whole lot you can do, shrug your shoulders, and get back to making experimental films. Que sera, sera — and if you're Lucas, "que sera" translates to a hell of a lot more sequels for as long as Disney can manage it, so he might as well get comfy with the idea now.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
It doesn't apply to all lands as broader stories allow for a greater variety. Properties are, by their very nature, specific. Cars Land much always use those types of characters, it can never have something more general to motoring the way Car Land could have. Star Wars Land can't contain other space fantasy stories.
Star Wars doesn't have many worlds to work with which is why they're building a new location that can be far more built and ornate than anything seen so far.