HwdStudio
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I was at the Swan that week.
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Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios
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Lets Respect
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I'm so glad WDW's SWL will be at DHS so I can just avoid the crowds it is going to create
999th Happy Haunt
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I can see the t-shirts alreadyIt would be cool if a Storm Trooper randomly grabbed people out of line and you never saw them again!
“My son was captured and taken prisoner at Star Wars Galaxy’s Edge!”
phillip9698
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This has created a dilemma for me. We planned on taking our son to Disneyland summer of 2019 for his 3rd birthday, key thought was that a more compact park and lower crowds would be more manageable with a toddler. With SW really set to open during that time frame im thinking we should change that trip to Disney World so we miss the SW bedlam. As big of a SW fan as i am i want no part of that crowd when im hauling around a 3 year old.
Honestly, re: security, I think we're over thinking this. If people are confined to the resort (like a cruise ship), they almost certainly will be screened on arrival. It is likely that from what we know, the SWGE experience will be after normal operating hours at DHS (akin to an EMH for SW hotel guests only), and they will ONLY have access to the SW land. Therefore, there is no mixing with the general population at DHS, and really no need to rescreen for security purposes, as they cannot go throughout the whole park. So I think the security check, if any, will be quite minimal and probably themed along the lines as others have suggested with First Order stormtroopers.
This model makes complete sense and is probably the reason why TDO agreed to do SWGE the same way TDA is doing it as long as the hotel was included, as it will be quite labor intensive ($$$$) with all the character actors and interactions within the land. Basically, the SW hotel is a super fastpass for the land, and a very pricey one at that, given that the price of a stay is rumored to be in excess of $1000 a night, and may even go up if demand is crazy high. Thus the crazy hotel fees will be the source of revenue to subsidize all the actors for the entire day, allowing SWGE to be as immersive as it is.
How TDA is paying for this is unclear to me, unless they have some sort of SW only paid super fastpass system in mind as well. The amount of interactivity that is rumored and the expensive ($$$) labor costs for actors for the entire day has got to be a lot for them to absorb. Not to mention I have absolutely NO idea how crowded Disneyland is supposed to absorb all of these extra guests AND have a staging area for people waiting to get into the land. There just doesn't seem to be enough real estate for all of that. Having upcharges to basically guarantee reasonable waits to experience the land seems like a good way to offset labor costs.... I'm sure DHS will probably follow suit too.
This model makes complete sense and is probably the reason why TDO agreed to do SWGE the same way TDA is doing it as long as the hotel was included, as it will be quite labor intensive ($$$$) with all the character actors and interactions within the land. Basically, the SW hotel is a super fastpass for the land, and a very pricey one at that, given that the price of a stay is rumored to be in excess of $1000 a night, and may even go up if demand is crazy high. Thus the crazy hotel fees will be the source of revenue to subsidize all the actors for the entire day, allowing SWGE to be as immersive as it is.
How TDA is paying for this is unclear to me, unless they have some sort of SW only paid super fastpass system in mind as well. The amount of interactivity that is rumored and the expensive ($$$) labor costs for actors for the entire day has got to be a lot for them to absorb. Not to mention I have absolutely NO idea how crowded Disneyland is supposed to absorb all of these extra guests AND have a staging area for people waiting to get into the land. There just doesn't seem to be enough real estate for all of that. Having upcharges to basically guarantee reasonable waits to experience the land seems like a good way to offset labor costs.... I'm sure DHS will probably follow suit too.
danlb_2000
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What they want and what actually happens are two different things. I would not go out on a limb and state as fact that it will be open by November 2019.
It would be nice to have it open by then, but there is zero reason for it to "need" to be open by then.
Having the opening align with a time more people can travel would be of greater importance, but even that is by no means necessary. They could open it on the third Tuesday of January 2020 and people would still move heaven and earth to get there.
durangojim
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I wonder how many die hards are going to go to DL first because it'll be the first to open. I have to admit, I'm torn. We have a family vacation planned to Arizona next summer, and it would be pretty easy to go to Anaheim. My concern is that the experience will be so God awful due to the crowds that it won't be enjoyable at all. Unfortunately it's because of people like me that I've heard of upcharge rumors with extra cost fastpasses and such to allow only a limited amount of people in SWland at a time, and I have to admit I'd probably pay it if I could skip some of the lines. Maybe I'll just wait to experience SW until the hotel opens whenever that may be.
I was considering doing both, but I think we will stick to just WDW.
Not only can we avoid a cross country flight, but I feel WDW is better set up to deal with the crowds.
As to the crowds, that is half the reason you go to an opening event. The main reason I want to go is for that opening day crowd and the energy is brings. I full anticipate a roughly 20 hour day of near constant waiting where I might be able to take a single spin on the 2 new attractions if I am lucky, but the experience of being there will be something that I will never find again.
MrPromey
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Based on that, do you think they are considering some of the empty space created in that structure by the replacement of the GMR attraction as possible attraction/retail/dining/environment space for SWL expansion?
Do you think that after phase one, the monozygotic nature of the east and west coast versions of this will break with future expansion happening in different ways with different experiences?
Given that ultimately, the two locations serve different kinds of audiences, this seems like it would make sense to me in the same way that attractions and lands that are "the same" aren't really the same between the two, today.
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No. There will still be a service / fire lane between GMR and SWL.
The space in the rear of GMR wouldn’t be large enough for anything meaningful.
Texas84
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It would be cool if a Storm Trooper randomly grabbed people out of line and you never saw them again!
I've seen the Stormtroopers in DHS take people away. They return though. It's funny.
eliza61nyc
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You'll have 3 other parks. That might be lighter because of everyone going to HS
durangojim
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phillip9698
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The plan now is to avoid Disneyland and head to World before their Star Wars area opens.
phillip9698
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Double.
Skibum1970
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Heck, I'm surprised that it isn't Spring 2020.
Skibum1970
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I have a feeling that this is going to make the crowds for Hogsmeade/Hogwarts at UNI seem tiny by comparison. My guess is that it will be at least a year before it even begins to die down. Could be completely wrong.
drod1985
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Do you think it'll get that bad? People would basically spend an entire day in a ride queue?
What's Flight of Passage's standby queue record? I think I've seen 4 hours as the absolute max? I can't imagine people being willing to wait any longer than that, even the biggest Star Wars fanatics.
Coaster Lover
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I'm 99.99% sure the number of people will be limited (at least for the first few days/weeks as necessary). When Pandora opened, they had a separate queue just to get into the land and I imagine all of Grand Ave will be used as a big queue to get into Galaxy's Edge. It certainly could be possible that you wait 3-4 hours to get into Galaxy's Edge then another 3-4 hours to get on Alcatraz (that wouldn't seem out of the question, especially in the first few days). When Hogsmead opened, I believe at one point they were handing out return tickets which would allow you to go around the rest of the park and just return at a certain time. It would be nice if Disney did something similar, but I guess we'll see...