HauntedMansionFLA
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Will the new land have some sort of Jedi training but a bit more high tech?
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Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios
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I've not seen Jedi Training associated with the new land but it's hard not for it to be surely.
There was an old,OLD rumor(possibly dating back to the pre-Lucas buyout days)about an indoor version of Jedi Training that was going to be a replica of Yodas swamp. There would be animatronic Yodas popping up at various spots,Darth Vader would come out of the dark side tree to battle the younglings,and the whole thing would end with the kids joining together to levitate Luke's X-Wing out of the swamp. That sounds AMAZING,and having an indoor-training area would eliminate the current delays caused by the weather.
Wow. That was an old one! I've seen nothing indicating it's any more than a memory now.
999th Happy Haunt
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I can look at a screen anywhere. Physical props and sets are much more immersive and believable than a movie screen.
Mike S
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Well for some things physical props and sets have their limits on what they can do believably. Also, some of the "screenz" in theme park attractions are much more advanced and expensive than what you find in your average day to day but let's not let facts get in the way of your "point," shall we?
999th Happy Haunt
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I agree that sometimes screens are necessary when needed, but that post was mostly for Goofyernmost who said that every attraction would be better as a simulator insted of having physical props and animatronics.Well for some things physical props and sets have their limits on what they can do believably. Also, some of the "screenz" in theme park attractions are much more advanced and expensive than what you find in your average day to day but let's not let facts get in the way of your "point," shall we?
gmajew
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Well for some things physical props and sets have their limits on what they can do believably. Also, some of the "screenz" in theme park attractions are much more advanced and expensive than what you find in your average day to day but let's not let facts get in the way of your "point," shall we?
I think Kong had a good balance to it. I think the shanghi pirates is well done with its use of screeens. If that is the new normal I am excited about the future of rides. If they try to toss toy story at us all the time no good. And in all honesty even transformers as I think that is to easy to do over and over again and fall into a rut
Mike S
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I agree with that. I was just addressing the "movie screen" part. Say what you want about liking these kinds of rides or not, but that's a far cry from an accurate description unless you're talking about MuppetVision, Phillharmagic, Terminator, etc.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Looks like the foundation for something just behind the trees.
dreamscometrue
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Whoa! Look! In the lower left of the photo. Is that the replacement for the (thankfully) removed DHS Sorcerer's Hat?
Goofyernmost
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Nope, didn't say that at all. I said that I would rather have screens then a poorly done scene and lack luster AA. It was in response to another post that said they shouldn't put anymore simulators (because they had motion sickness problems). I understand their hesitation to endorse simulators based on that, but, condemnation is also not reasonable. The only way to make a high paced "Space" epic come to life is with simulators and screens. It cannot be duplicated from a slow moving dark ride with AA's alone. That relies way to much on the imagination of the guest. And I think we can all agree that no one has the energy left to use their imagination. It must be spelled out in black and white, bold type lettering.
Mike S
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If only Disney could make an amazing ride about the possibilities of Imagination to help with that.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Now that's just crazy talk!
DinoInstitute
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Granted, I'm not OP you're replying to, but given the option of a full grand physical set show scene and grand "'screenz'", there is zero comparison for me. I'm not saying I'm completely against screens in rides, in fact I'm all for them (like for a cool backdrop instead of say just a mural), but they aren't nearly as exciting or immersive for me.Well for some things physical props and sets have their limits on what they can do believably. Also, some of the "screenz" in theme park attractions are much more advanced and expensive than what you find in your average day to day but let's not let facts get in the way of your "point," shall we?
Take the Haunted Mansion, and specifically the ballroom scene for example. Would that scene be nearly as great as it is if it was a giant screen that showed dancing ghosts? Surely, one would think that, before this effect was used, how could you realistically create live ghosts in front of you without some sort of movie? I liked it when the easier way wasn't taken and the impossible was challenged
(yes I know this was just one example, and some things genuinely are either better/make more sense with screens, but my point is just that generally physical sets and innovative show scenes are much better IMO)
Mike S
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The ballroom ghosts are a very old effect actually.Granted, I'm not OP you're replying to, but given the option of a full grand physical set show scene and grand "'screenz'", there is zero comparison for me. I'm not saying I'm completely against screens in rides, in fact I'm all for them (like for a cool backdrop instead of say just a mural), but they aren't nearly as exciting or immersive for me.
Take the Haunted Mansion, and specifically the ballroom scene for example. Would that scene be nearly as great as it is if it was a giant screen that showed dancing ghosts? Surely, one would think that, before this effect was used, how could you realistically create live ghosts in front of you without some sort of movie? I liked it when the easier way wasn't taken and the impossible was challenged
(yes I know this was just one example, and some things genuinely are either better/make more sense with screens, but my point is just that generally physical sets and innovative show scenes are much better IMO)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper's_ghost
Not really so impossible for the showmasters at WED back in the day but still effective. Other kinds of effects are not so easily done, as I said before.
jt04
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That is a swimming pool.
DinoInstitute
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I know about the peppers ghost effect, that wasn't really the point or supposed to be the takeaway... What I'm saying is things can be done and figured out and those who are able to work on these projects should want to think outside the box. Physical effects can be a lot more interesting.
They can, but not always possible.
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