News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

BrianLo

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Did anyone else think of Natures Wonderland At 19:15? This could fit the rumored Natures Wonderland references supposedly being installed on the railroad.


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Phroobar

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It's eye candy like this and the blending of environments that I think will make this version of SWL far superior to the DHS version. Their version will go from a city scape to an arch into SWL. Inside it will be the same but outside I bet they will try to make it look like a hot set with fake walls
 

TP2000

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It's eye candy like this and the blending of environments that I think will make this version of SWL far superior to the DHS version. Their version will go from a city scape to an arch into SWL. Inside it will be the same but outside I bet they will try to make it look like a hot set with fake walls
Yeah, I've seen some of the maps of the DHS version and they don't have nearly as much space to work with there to transition Star Wars into the rest of the park. It's going to be abrupt. Which is weird and ironic; yet another WDW park that seems strapped for space and land. :confused:

At Disneyland, all this new eye candy will dramatically improve the giant walls of overgrown trees and shrubs that have defined the back half of Frontierland for decades. All the new cliffs and waterfalls along the Rivers of America, the trestles and rocky ledges along the Disneyland Railroad trackbed, the cavern entrances into Star Wars Land, etc., etc.

It will be a dramatic theme improvement over The Great Boring Wall of Green that defined this third of the park for the past 30 years (since they shut down Nature's Wonderland in '77), where a few fiberglass animals frozen in place, a peek-a-boo look at the parking structure, and that rickety Indian Chief were big highlights.

 

Dr. Hans Reinhardt

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It will be a dramatic theme improvement over The Great Boring Wall of Green that defined this third of the park for the past 30 years (since they shut down Nature's Wonderland in '77), where a few fiberglass animals frozen in place, a peek-a-boo look at the parking structure, and that rickety Indian Chief were big highlights.
LOL.

You're right though.
 

BrianLo

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Yeah, I've seen some of the maps of the DHS version and they don't have nearly as much space to work with there to transition Star Wars into the rest of the park. It's going to be abrupt. Which is weird and ironic; yet another WDW park that seems strapped for space and land. :confused:

At Disneyland, all this new eye candy will dramatically improve the giant walls of overgrown trees and shrubs that have defined the back half of Frontierland for decades. All the new cliffs and waterfalls along the Rivers of America, the trestles and rocky ledges along the Disneyland Railroad trackbed, the cavern entrances into Star Wars Land, etc., etc.

It will be a dramatic theme improvement over The Great Boring Wall of Green that defined this third of the park for the past 30 years (since they shut down Nature's Wonderland in '77), where a few fiberglass animals frozen in place, a peek-a-boo look at the parking structure, and that rickety Indian Chief were big highlights.

DHS actually does have the space for the transitions, they just aren't using it. Instead of redesigning the land for their park they've 100% kept the design of Disneyland's layout in tact. In place of the train trestle/Fantasmic storage/RoA they are just going to dump a bunch of dirt and trees and call it a day. Leaving a gigantic hole in the middle of the park as an expansion pad makes no sense until you piece together it was copied and pasted into a corner where the layout could 'fit'.

The joke is a few folks were so insistent everything was being designed for WDW first and foremost.

It's funny though, the mantra that "Bob" synonymous for corporate Disney doesn't give a **** about Disneyland's history is getting harder to maintain when they are replacing the 80's Big Thunder Elements with throwbacks to Nature's Wonderland.
 

WDW1974

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Agreed! They are obviously installing some eye candy along the new trails and tracks on the Frontierland side of this construction.
True enough, but would they have to install anything if not for the terribly misplaced ego-trip, throw the Iger IP anywhere (especially by sticking a huge tumor on DL's back side) build of the Star Wars Experience?

BTW, heard this forum was home for all the refugees who hung out on LP.com until the bitter (or was it simply quiet) end. Wonder whatever happened to gadfly/very small-time one-time Disney consultant Lee MacDonald (just try and find one human being at Disney's Asia-Pacific HQ in HK who has ever heard of him, just one).

I haven't gone through 95 pages because, as you may know, I tend to stick to News and Rumors here, but I've been told that the general vibe here is "what is wrong with Star Wars Land at DL? Walt didn't want the park to be a museum. Blather, blather, rinse, repeat."

Because you can like SW and you can even be happy it is going in DL, but I haven't read one legit explanation anywhere for why it belongs and why it isn't fundamentally altering Walt's park in a way nothing else has for 61 years and why that is OK.

Oh, can I also say The Force Awakens was very mediocre and Bob Iger has been unhappy with Rogue One? OK, just did ... nevermind.
 

WDW1974

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It's eye candy like this and the blending of environments that I think will make this version of SWL far superior to the DHS version. Their version will go from a city scape to an arch into SWL. Inside it will be the same but outside I bet they will try to make it look like a hot set with fake walls
The actual lands are going to be almost completely identical ... if you care about transitions, then maybe this will seem to fit more. I think that may well be accurate. However, the fact one land is going to be based on an IP and treated like a park within a park (basically saying 'this is more important than DL itself') is something that sets a very, very bad precedent for Disney, no matter how pretty this looks.
 

WDW1974

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Yeah, I've seen some of the maps of the DHS version and they don't have nearly as much space to work with there to transition Star Wars into the rest of the park. It's going to be abrupt. Which is weird and ironic; yet another WDW park that seems strapped for space and land. :confused:
WDW and WDI don't seem to place as much care on planning and land use in the swamps. My guess is that is because of Walt's old blessing of size deal (Y'all recall when he said ''We have enough land here for all of the timeshares we can possibly dream up", right?) The Bob Iger Land IP MAGIC Park should have enough land to make for quality transitions, but I doubt you'll get them. ... And having Star Tours cut off from the SWE is bizarre because I will bet that, unlike Anaheim, ST stays open for years in the swamps.

At Disneyland, all this new eye candy will dramatically improve the giant walls of overgrown trees and shrubs that have defined the back half of Frontierland for decades. All the new cliffs and waterfalls along the Rivers of America, the trestles and rocky ledges along the Disneyland Railroad trackbed, the cavern entrances into Star Wars Land, etc., etc.

It will be a dramatic theme improvement over The Great Boring Wall of Green that defined this third of the park for the past 30 years (since they shut down Nature's Wonderland in '77), where a few fiberglass animals frozen in place, a peek-a-boo look at the parking structure, and that rickety Indian Chief were big highlights.

IMPROVE?!?!?!? Where's my crazy Phil Kippel emojis? Hold on ... :mad::mad::mad::mad: OK, there we go.

Some of us loved the beautiful natural rustic feel of Frontierland's back country. Don't know why, could it be because it fit so well? Despite talk of saving trees, Disney basically denuded the area of trees that in some cases dated back to the 1950s. Just hacked them to pieces. Yes, they will be improving the banks of the RoA and tossing a few nice and cheap show upgrades along the way. But I find it hard to praise them when two Star Wars attractions that don't come close to Walt-era high capacity E-Tix 50 years later is what we are getting.

And every man and woman I have talked to that works or has worked for WDI who isn't involved in the project has ripped Disney for this ... oh, and for that little Guardians of the Galaxy takeover of the Hollywood Tower Hotel. It would seem today that WDI (stateside anyway where they don't have to answer to other ownership groups or the Chinese Communist Party) has lost all ability to pitch non-IP projects or to make sure they are placed where they belong from a thematic and storytelling and cohesive standpoint.

But what do I know. John Hench, Herb Ryman and Marc Davis and Co would have loved this type of forced placement.;):D:eek:
 

Disney Analyst

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WDW and WDI don't seem to place as much care on planning and land use in the swamps. My guess is that is because of Walt's old blessing of size deal (Y'all recall when he said ''We have enough land here for all of the timeshares we can possibly dream up", right?) The Bob Iger Land IP MAGIC Park should have enough land to make for quality transitions, but I doubt you'll get them. ... And having Star Tours cut off from the SWE is bizarre because I will bet that, unlike Anaheim, ST stays open for years in the swamps.



IMPROVE?!?!?!? Where's my crazy Phil Kippel emojis? Hold on ... :mad::mad::mad::mad: OK, there we go.

Some of us loved the beautiful natural rustic feel of Frontierland's back country. Don't know why, could it be because it fit so well? Despite talk of saving trees, Disney basically denuded the area of trees that in some cases dated back to the 1950s. Just hacked them to pieces. Yes, they will be improving the banks of the RoA and tossing a few nice and cheap show upgrades along the way. But I find it hard to praise them when two Star Wars attractions that don't come close to Walt-era high capacity E-Tix 50 years later is what we are getting.

And every man and woman I have talked to that works or has worked for WDI who isn't involved in the project has ripped Disney for this ... oh, and for that little Guardians of the Galaxy takeover of the Hollywood Tower Hotel. It would seem today that WDI (stateside anyway where they don't have to answer to other ownership groups or the Chinese Communist Party) has lost all ability to pitch non-IP projects or to make sure they are placed where they belong from a thematic and storytelling and cohesive standpoint.

But what do I know. John Hench, Herb Ryman and Marc Davis and Co would have loved this type of forced placement.;):D:eek:
Welcome to the Disneyland page!!

Have you heard anything about the Fantasmic updates?? It sounds like they are making some huge changes out west.
 

WDW1974

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Careful. Anything even mildly complimentary to Iger will get you thrown right out of the Disney fan community.
Well, to be fair he is a piece of human excrement. Fans mostly don't get this because they tend to look at everything Disney does as how it makes them feel (take a look at the glee some WDW fans took when they found out GotG was going only in DCA ... or so they thought at the time).
 

180º

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Yeah, I've seen some of the maps of the DHS version and they don't have nearly as much space to work with there to transition Star Wars into the rest of the park. It's going to be abrupt. Which is weird and ironic; yet another WDW park that seems strapped for space and land. :confused:

At Disneyland, all this new eye candy will dramatically improve the giant walls of overgrown trees and shrubs that have defined the back half of Frontierland for decades. All the new cliffs and waterfalls along the Rivers of America, the trestles and rocky ledges along the Disneyland Railroad trackbed, the cavern entrances into Star Wars Land, etc., etc.

It will be a dramatic theme improvement over The Great Boring Wall of Green that defined this third of the park for the past 30 years (since they shut down Nature's Wonderland in '77), where a few fiberglass animals frozen in place, a peek-a-boo look at the parking structure, and that rickety Indian Chief were big highlights.

Okay, I get it. It's going to be gorgeous. I don't doubt it will be stunning. Just cool it a little with my "Great Boring Wall of Green," which was genuinely one of my favorite parts of Disneyland. The loss still stings. :)

At least I can enjoy the Great Big Beautiful Wall of Green at the Magic Kingdom, which, by the way, never had Nature's Wonderland.

Anyway, I'm glad they're at least taking the great effort to conceal Star Wars Land beyond extensive earthen berms and lots of foliage. I'm looking forward to taking the Disneyland Railroad again, which I'm sure will still be a lovely trip.

(EDIT: I try to be gracious here, but to be completely honest, THIS is about how I feel)...
IMPROVE?!?!?!? Where's my crazy Phil Kippel emojis? Hold on ... :mad::mad::mad::mad: OK, there we go.

Some of us loved the beautiful natural rustic feel of Frontierland's back country. Don't know why, could it be because it fit so well? Despite talk of saving trees, Disney basically denuded the area of trees that in some cases dated back to the 1950s. Just hacked them to pieces. Yes, they will be improving the banks of the RoA and tossing a few nice and cheap show upgrades along the way. But I find it hard to praise them when two Star Wars attractions that don't come close to Walt-era high capacity E-Tix 50 years later is what we are getting.

And every man and woman I have talked to that works or has worked for WDI who isn't involved in the project has ripped Disney for this ... oh, and for that little Guardians of the Galaxy takeover of the Hollywood Tower Hotel. It would seem today that WDI (stateside anyway where they don't have to answer to other ownership groups or the Chinese Communist Party) has lost all ability to pitch non-IP projects or to make sure they are placed where they belong from a thematic and storytelling and cohesive standpoint.

But what do I know. John Hench, Herb Ryman and Marc Davis and Co would have loved this type of forced placement.;):D:eek:
 
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