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[Disney Irish]

And they're getting it! Have the crowd levels not communicated that?

But its finite, there will be a tipping point on the scale of when only new offerings will bring in new customers versus keeping things around just for nostalgic reasons to keep the APs. When that tipping point will occur, only Disney knows.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

But its finite, there will be a tipping point on the scale of when only new offerings will bring in new customers versus keeping things around just for nostalgic reasons to keep the APs. When that tipping point will occur, only Disney knows.

That literally makes zero sense. Only new offerings will bring in new customers? To a new customer, EVERYTHING is a new experience no matter how long its been in the park.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

My point still stands, just because YOU may be nostalgic for DL of your childhood doesn't mean the next generations will have that same nostalgic feeling. Its the experience of the individual person that makes them nostalgic, not what someone else experienced.

Of course the new generation won't feel nostalgic, because they haven't experienced it yet! But once those feelings are established, they're not going to want everything to change by the time they have kids either.

We're talking in circles here. Bottom line is, change for the sake of change is short-sighted. And if in 30 years Disneyland doesn't have some version of Pirates, HM, BTM, DLRR, SM, Small World, or Matterhorn, I'll let you buy me a beer.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Did the urls end with '.go'?

Definitely the best Disneyland, as far as art is concerned, is Paris. Tokyo Disneyland and Disneyland USA are tied. Followed then by Magic Kingdom, Hong Kong, and Shanghai. Really can't stand the Chinese pandering aspects of Shanghai Disneyland. You cannot have an American staple like Disney without America in it. Disneyland Paris panders to the French but still holds onto its roots. Shanghai Disneyland is distinctly Chinese for sure, but not authentically Disney.

Ugh. Just shut up. Please? I'm begging.

 

[Disney Irish]

That literally makes zero sense. Only new offerings will bring in new customers? To a new customer, EVERYTHING is a new experience no matter how long its been in the park.

Of course the new generation won't feel nostalgic, because they haven't experienced it yet!

We're talking in circles here. Bottom line is, change for the sake of change is short-sighted. And if in 30 years Disneyland doesn't have Pirates, HM, BTM, DLRR, SM, Small World, or Matterhorn, I'll let you buy me a beer.

New customer as in capturing the next generation. If you maintain too much of the nostalgic factor it isn't going to capture the next generation the same way it did the previous generation.

What your parents were nostalgic for isn't the same thing you are nostalgic for, even when you experience the same thing. This is because you are coming from different points in your life, society, etc. For example I may be nostalgic for Happy Days, but if I show it to my kids they may not have the same response to it.

 

[TROR]

New customer as in capturing the next generation. If you maintain too much of the nostalgic factor it isn't going to capture the next generation the same way it did the previous generation.

What your parents were nostalgic for isn't the same thing you are nostalgic for, even when you experience the same thing. This is because you are coming from different points in your life, society, etc. For example I may be nostalgic for Happy Days, but if I show it to my kids they may not have the same response to it.

No, but if you constantly have it on they'll feel nostalgic for it. My parents grew up watching Three's Company and feel nostalgic for it. I couldn't have cared less about it until it was airing on TV and I started to watch it with them. Now I enjoy Three's Company and have a nostalgia for it. Is the nostalgia the same nostalgia they have? No. But it's still there.

 

[Disney Irish]

No, but if you constantly have it on they'll feel nostalgic for it. My parents grew up watching Three's Company and feel nostalgic for it. I couldn't have cared less about it until it was airing on TV and I started to watch it with them. Now I enjoy Three's Company and have a nostalgia for it. Is the nostalgia the same nostalgia they have? No. But it's still there.

No, that is not true. Again just because YOU feel nostalgic for it doesn't mean everyone else will. Disney knows it and its why they are FINALLY building new offerings in DL itself.

 

[Disney Irish]

I hope you guys are right that things like Pirates and HM will NEVER be touched and will always be there as it is today. But my business sense tells me that is just not possible in the long run.

 

[TROR]

No, that is not true. Again just because YOU feel nostalgic for it doesn't mean everyone else will. Disney knows it and its why they are FINALLY building new offerings in DL itself.

Nostalgia just comes from happy memories of our past, usually youth. Unless your childhood memories of Disneyland are getting smacked around, likely you'll be nostalgic for it as an adult.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

New customer as in capturing the next generation. If you maintain too much of the nostalgic factor it isn't going to capture the next generation the same way it did the previous generation.

What your parents were nostalgic for isn't the same thing you are nostalgic for, even when you experience the same thing. This is because you are coming from different points in your life, society, etc. For example I may be nostalgic for Happy Days, but if I show it to my kids they may not have the same response to it.

You can't predict what the next generation will be captured by. "Retro" is still a very popular idea and people in 2018 still love the 80's and 90's (heck, just look at all the TV reboots). Though to be fair, with millenials being as awful as they are constantly on social media glued to their phones, its a wonder any of them care about going to Disneyland at all.

And as for Happy Days, its really all down to how you present it to them. They might not feel nostalgic for it, but that doesn't mean they can't enjoy it for what it is. Discovering older things is what helps preserve them. Constantly seeking new new new for the sake of new-ness is foolish.

 

[Disney Irish]

You can't predict what the next generation will be captured by. "Retro" is still a very popular idea and people in 2018 still love the 80's and 90's (heck, just look at all the TV reboots). Though to be fair, with millenials being as awful as they are constantly on social media glued to their phones, its a wonder any of them care about going to Disneyland at all.

And as for Happy Days, its really all down to how you present it to them. They might not feel nostalgic for it, but that doesn't mean they can't enjoy it for what it is. Discovering older things is what helps preserve them. Constantly seeking new new new for the sake of new-ness is foolish.

And neither can you. You don't know if for example the next generation may find Pirates to be the worst attraction ever built because of its outdated concepts and non-historical look at pirates. Or they may find it to be technologically outdated and inferior to newer attractions being built at that time.

Just because we enjoy something today, doesn't mean it will always be enjoyed in the future.

 

[TROR]

And neither can you. You don't know if for example the next generation may find Pirates to be the worst attraction even built because of its outdated concepts and non-historical look at pirates. Or they may find it to be technologically outdated and inferior to newer attractions being built at that time.

Just because we enjoy something today, doesn't mean it will always be enjoyed in the future.

That's on the previous generation for raising a bunch of idiots

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

I hope you guys are right that things like Pirates and HM will NEVER be touched and will always be there as it is today. But my business sense tells me that is just not possible in the long run.

Wait, so you're saying that in order for Disneyland to stay in business they MUST completely raze Pirates and Haunted Mansion at some point??

OK...that's a new one.

 

[Disney Irish]

That's on the previous generation for raising a bunch of idiots

And some say Millennials and Generation Z are idiots, so it'll be idiots raising idiots. Welcome to the new world...

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

And neither can you. You don't know if for example the next generation may find Pirates to be the worst attraction ever built because of its outdated concepts and non-historical look at pirates. Or they may find it to be technologically outdated and inferior to newer attractions being built at that time.

Just because we enjoy something today, doesn't mean it will always be enjoyed in the future.

Next summer HM will celebrate its 50th anniversary. Likewise, last summer was Pirates 50th. I think history is on the side of preservation.

 

[TROR]

I'm going to make a theme park and it'll be idiot free.

Next summer HM will celebrate its 50th anniversary. Likewise, last summer was Pirates 50th. I think history is on the side of preservation.

"Marvel has been popular for over 80 years! Star Wars has been popular for over 40 years! They'll be loved for decades to come! Btw Pirates of the Caribbean needs to be destroyed despite being popular for 50 years."

 

[Disney Irish]

Wait, so you're saying that in order for Disneyland to stay in business they MUST completely raze Pirates and Haunted Mansion at some point??

OK...that's a new one.

That is not what I said. I used those two as examples to show a point because they are considered two of the most "untouchables".

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

That is not what I said. I used those two as examples to show a point because they are considered one of the two most "untouchables".

But you still believe, according to your business sense, that classic attractions will one day be razed to keep Disneyland afloat?

 

[Disney Irish]

But you still believe, according to your business sense, that classic attractions will one day be razed to keep Disneyland afloat?

I'm not going to go back into this again.

I've given my thoughts, its different than yours and that is fine.

 

[NobodyElse]

Walt's interests were Americana.

Some of Walt's interests were Americana.