Sirwalterraleigh
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When you get dvc…you’ll get a nice coupon in the mailbox for it
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News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021
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corran horn
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(pssst--we are DVC)When you get dvc…you’ll get a nice coupon in the mailbox for it
Sirwalterraleigh
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Oh I bet…can’t guard the emperor without it
Think a rushed point conversion and then 30% off that is a “thank you”?
_caleb
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Because the whole Starcruiser concept is relatively new, it makes sense to me that they'd need to sort out how (and how much) to charge people for it. I would like to see pricing fluctuate based on availability (like hotel rooms) rather than the fixed price they started with, and better package deals to combine with resort stays. This might make it accessible to some for much less and help address any attendance issues.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Variable pricing makes sense…
What doesn’t is building a one and done spot that lost what little buzz it had in less than a year
corran horn
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We would probably look at going again earlier than we might otherwise if they offered some price break to returners. They haven't as far as I know. We haven't gotten it anyway.Oh I bet…can’t guard the emperor without it
Think a rushed point conversion and then 30% off that is a “thank you”?
The point conversion, financially, never made sense for our use-case. I don't even think it does with the "discount".
_caleb
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Just like with SW:GE and the screen-centric rides, we're often told about how easily they could make changes. And then it rarely happens (Star Tours).
The Starcruiser's current replayablity has to do with there being too much/too many options to experience all in one stay. But because a significant portion of the experience is a theatrical production, the should be able to add/change storylines to make it even more interesting for return visits.
Assuming anyone can afford to do it even once, nevermind twice.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
This is a frequent miscalculation…believing their clientele is more affluent than any amusement park customer shakes out to be…
Also non-committal on IP. That’s all back to LFL’s struggles
corran horn
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I'm certain Disney knows far more about this than anyone commenting here. (including me)
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…significant evidence to the contrary.
All humans make mistakes…groups of them with cash tend to make BIG ones
_caleb
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It's interesting, because Disney certainly has a lot more data than we do. They don't operate on hunches and gut instinct. They analyze data: consumer spending, economic trends, guest behavior and feedback, etc. Yet they do make their share of miscalculations (if that's the cause of poorer-than-expected performance or missing expectations).
Which makes me wonder if "miscalculations" are the right way to think about failures and missteps. Are they testing? Might some of these things be positioning, marketing, or intentional short-term loses in support of longer-term payoffs?
I'm just saying, it's not like Disney doesn't know how to make good movies or build/run great theme parks. So when they make less-than-great movies or run less-than-great parks, it makes me wonder.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I used to see that data…long ago.
It’s not that Disney doesn’t have data..they may be the best at interpreting it…
It’s that the management is different…and not in a good way…in their analysis and application of that data…
…I hear?
RobWDW1971
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We can't disconnect the quality of the execution from the conversation about the underlying analytics.
Was there market capacity to support adding another theme park to Disneyland to make it a resort including a RDE and 4 Star Hotel? Absolutely. But they built DCA and it was a disaster. Not because there wasn't demand, because of what they built.
For the Starcruiser, are there Disney/Star Wars fans that would be willing to pay thousands to stay in a Star Wars themed environment? Absolutely, but not for this:
Was there market capacity to support adding another theme park to Disneyland to make it a resort including a RDE and 4 Star Hotel? Absolutely. But they built DCA and it was a disaster. Not because there wasn't demand, because of what they built.
For the Starcruiser, are there Disney/Star Wars fans that would be willing to pay thousands to stay in a Star Wars themed environment? Absolutely, but not for this:
Sirwalterraleigh
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RobWDW1971
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You are immersed!!!
Looking at that crowd, it's like being sent to the couch at the party in Animal House.
TP2000
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It's an (unfunny?) joke.
Every time anyone posts a screenshot of the wide open booking calendar for the Galactic Starcruiser, a TDO fan comes along and says quite helpfully "Well, that doesn't mean it's in trouble! There could only be one cabin left on the nights still listed as having open availability!"
So, forever more, when there are wide open bookings available the next day, next week, and into next season, it's obviously because there is only one (1!) cabin available left for those nights.
Book now! Don't wait! Only one cabin left! Captain Keevan is depending on you!
TP2000
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I swear, every time I see photos like this of the Galactic Starcruiser Crown of Corellia Dining Room, I can only think...
church basement fundraiser pasta supper to benefit the youth group, suggested donation $10.
This year's fundraiser theme is Sci-Fi, as chosen by the church youth group. Our teens made the Jedi Baked Ziti themselves! All fundraiser dinner proceeds to benefit the Youth Group Summer Trip to Lake Okawanda.
FYI - Chaperones still needed for summer trip, please see Youth Pastor Douglas!
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…I’m ashamed I missed this oneIt's an (unfunny?) joke.
Every time anyone posts a screenshot of the wide open booking calendar for the Galactic Starcruiser, a TDO fan comes along and says quite helpfully "Well, that doesn't mean it's in trouble! There could only be one cabin left on the nights still listed as having open availability!"
So, forever more, when there are wide open bookings available the next day, next week, and into next season, it's obviously because there is only one (1!) cabin available left for those nights.
Book now! Don't wait! Only one cabin left! Captain Keevan is depending on you!
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…I think the Boy Scouts are “investigating” him
I swear, every time I see photos like this of the Galactic Starcruiser Crown of Corellia Dining Room, I can only think...
church basement fundraiser pasta supper to benefit the youth group, suggested donation $10.
This year's fundraiser theme is Sci-Fi, as chosen by the church youth group. Our teens made the Jedi Baked Ziti themselves! All fundraiser dinner proceeds to benefit the Youth Group Summer Trip to Lake Okawanda.
FYI - Chaperones still needed for summer trip, please see Youth Pastor Douglas!
I'm sorry you're disturbed by the reality that an open booking day is a black box into which we know nothing of how booked or unbooked it is.It's an (unfunny?) joke.
Every time anyone posts a screenshot of the wide open booking calendar for the Galactic Starcruiser, a TDO fan comes along and says quite helpfully "Well, that doesn't mean it's in trouble! There could only be one cabin left on the nights still listed as having open availability!"
So, forever more, when there are wide open bookings available the next day, next week, and into next season, it's obviously because there is only one (1!) cabin available left for those nights.
And by saying we don't know how unbooked it is, it explicitly is implying that it could be very unbooked. We're not saying it definitely is mostly booked. We just don't know.
That's the reality.
But you want to spin that into an implied failure on the part of the Halcyon and that there are pixie-blinded defenders defending it. Which isn't the case. We're not making that case that it probably is mostly-booked. We don't know.
But you know that's what we're really saying. But here you are trying to paint us as saying something we're not. Just so you can spin this into a failure without any pushback that you just don't know how it's doing. So, shame on you.
But, you keep spinning your Disney-hate. It's what you do. Laughably without information or data.