News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

[GimpYancIent]

Crazy enough to be true.

That sounds like a long winded way of saying “they really screwed up”

The IP is terrible…it was DOA. But they made two lands and a hotel based on 6 bad movies before they even hit the screens…2 Movies never even got made

Ok, Ok, Ok, got it clearly not a fan.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ok, Ok, Ok, got it clearly not a fan.

It’s not that. I could list 400 mistakes they made without breaking a sweat…

But nobody cares what I think…what matters is what the consumers think. And they rejected the whole slate. Go find all that hot Christmas “Rey” and “kylo ren” merch…
Go ahead…but pack lunch because you may not find it.

They failed. Complete disaster. And the missed opportunity is even worse for their bottom line longterm. Time to put on the big girl/boy pants and trust what the audience as concluded.

It’s a Business. They’re not supposed to mess up to that level.

 

[ChrisFL]

Thoughts: Iger coming back to "right wrongs" which MAY include Kathleen Kennedy facing an early retirement....to me, I would immediately start planning to get Galaxy's Edge and Starcruiser planned to go back to the Original Trilogy era, since a vast majority of the Disney+ shows are now set in that era. Every day that goes by, people are less and less invested in the sequel trilogy, but new stories are being constantly made from original trilogy era.

IMO it's foolish NOT to start planning for that.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Thoughts: Iger coming back to "right wrongs" which MAY include Kathleen Kennedy facing an early retirement....to me, I would immediately start planning to get Galaxy's Edge and Starcruiser planned to go back to the Original Trilogy era, since a vast majority of the Disney+ shows are now set in that era. Every day that goes by, people are less and less invested in the sequel trilogy, but new stories are being constantly made from original trilogy era.

IMO it's foolish NOT to start planning for that.

See…I think the disaster at Star Wars was on Iger…not kennedy.

There is no way Kathy kennedy decided autonomously to do a reboot with no story fleshed out who’s prime “goal” was to off the iconic characters.

That was boardroom kinda stuff taking the advice of bad advisors/analysts.

He could make kennedy the fall girl…but I’ll never believe it.

 

[ChrisFL]

See…I think the disaster at Star Wars was on Iger…not kennedy.

There is no way Kathy kennedy decided autonomously to do a reboot with no story fleshed out who’s prime “goal” was to off the iconic characters.

That was boardroom kinda stuff taking the advice of bad advisors/analysts.

He could make kennedy the fall girl…but I’ll never believe it.

I'm more thinking about what I HEARD though it could be completely incorrect that it was Kennedy's push to make Galaxy's Edge be sequel trilogy only....the more I think about it, the less sense it makes that she would be the deciding factor on that though.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm more thinking about what I HEARD though it could be completely incorrect that it was Kennedy's push to make Galaxy's Edge be sequel trilogy only....the more I think about it, the less sense it makes that she would be the deciding factor on that though.

I still think that all the LFL/Star Wars mistakes was bad advice to Iger and a peeing contest after the buyout went kinda sideways with Lucas. Which Iger speaks about in his book and Braverman had commented on prior. Pair that with what Michael arndt said back in 2015 about “mandates” and the story seems to point toward the new “soft, compassionate” Bob Iger

 

[kingdead]

I still think that all the LFL/Star Wars mistakes was bad advice to Iger and a peeing contest after the buyout went kinda sideways with Lucas. Which Iger speaks about in his book and Braverman had commented on prior. Pair that with what Michael arndt said back in 2015 about “mandates” and the story seems to point toward the new “soft, compassionate” Bob Iger

How did it go wrong? I thought that was a clean sale, even if Lucas regretted it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

How did it go wrong? I thought that was a clean sale, even if Lucas regretted it.

That’s a Hollywood he said/he said

The consensus - from all their own mouths - is Lucas appeared to believe he’d maintain significant creative control/influence and iger/braverman said they had to lay it out to him in the sale. Iger expressed that as a “regret”

So Disney didn’t understand the beast they bought…and it “ate them”. And since the sequel debacle they have had to make peace with George to rebuild their cred. It’s all over the behind the scenes stuff oh D+

None of them are saints/angels. To be clear.

 

[Incomudro]

It’s not that. I could list 400 mistakes they made without breaking a sweat…

But nobody cares what I think…what matters is what the consumers think. And they rejected the whole slate. Go find all that hot Christmas “Rey” and “kylo ren” merch…
Go ahead…but pack lunch because you may not find it.

They failed. Complete disaster. And the missed opportunity is even worse for their bottom line longterm. Time to put on the big girl/boy pants and trust what the audience as concluded.

It’s a Business. They’re not supposed to mess up to that level.

I gave it a chance, at least with Force Awakens.
I understood why they would want to work with new films given they were introducing them to a new audience who would grow up on them, go to the parks, raise kids of their own etc.
But they blew it with those films, and actually sabotaged the foundation of Star Wars while doing so.
They went after the fan base as well.
Terrible.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I gave it a chance, at least with Force Awakens.
I understood why they would want to work with new films given they were introducing them to a new audience who would grow up on them, go to the parks, raise kids of their own etc.
But they blew it with those films, and actually sabotaged the foundation of Star Wars while doing so.
They went after the fan base as well.
Terrible.

I honestly don’t know how anybody with a brain stem doesn’t conclude this at this point? Unless it’s to be contrarian…

They got some REALLY bad advice when you break it down.

And for the record: I was really optimistic when Disney bought it. The thought was there was no way they could make mistakes after so much prequel blow back? How could you when Lucas had struggled for 15 years and had so much capital built up with fans?

…what has happened is so crazy you almost can’t believe it. Stranger than fiction.

 

[_caleb]

I honestly don’t know how anybody with a brain stem doesn’t conclude this at this point? Unless it’s to be contrarian…

They got some REALLY bad advice when you break it down.

And for the record: I was really optimistic when Disney bought it. The thought was there was no way they could make mistakes after so much prequel blow back? How could you when Lucas had struggled for 15 years and had so much capital built up with fans?

…what has happened is so crazy you almost can’t believe it. Stranger than fiction.

Guess I don’t have a brain stem, because I think the PT is great. They moved on from the OT and PT. Too bad some of you weren’t able to move on.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Guess I don’t have a brain stem, because I think the PT is great. They moved on from the OT and PT. Too bad some of you weren’t able to move on.

You’re in the minority…by far. The bottomline is the bottomline.

The steaming shows are 80% OT era with a schmatter of prequel cross over. The product is 95% OT and PT.

Doesn’t matter what I think…the consumers have spoken. Same with the fistful of Rian Johnson/KK defenders.

They pooched it. Disney too.

 

[_caleb]

You’re in the minority…by far. The bottomline is the bottomline.

Minority of what? Star Wars fans? The films’ audience? Or do you mean on these boards?

The steaming shows are 80% OT era with a schmatter of prequel cross over. The product is 95% OT and PT.

We can’t like both? Why not let go of your missed expectations and just enjoy all three eras?

Doesn’t matter what I think the consumers have spoken. Same with the fistful of Rian Johnson/KK defenders.

Fortunately, Disney+ puts Disney in a position to give different kinds of fans different kinds of content. How would you feel about a Book of Boba Fett overlay of the Galactic Starcruiser? Maybe an Obi-wan Kenobi side mission?

They pooched it. Disney too.

Original Trilogy Star Wars fansites exist. Maybe you’d be happier on one of those?

 

[MrPromey]

Thats not a bad idea! Making it a seasonal offering will not only save costs but create artifical demand!
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THIS didn't age well

 

[MrPromey]

This thing might be fun and maybe something I would do if they did not have iteneraries and try to push you through interacting with a story. Leave me alone and let me experience the place the way I'd like to experience it and I would go.

It seems there is not enough of "the place" to experience without the itineraries, though.

Activities all have limited capacity so they have to schedule them to give everyone a chance to cycle through and since it isn't a real cruise, the facility lacks a lot of the amenities people would expect for an at-your-own-pace experience.

The story and the character interactions are the whole deal and that's done with paid actors so you can't expect to be able to just go off on your own and stumble into an "adventure". That chance surprise encounter has to be scheduled to make sure everybody's at their markers when you walk in.

Otherwise, what is there to this experience?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Minority of what? Star Wars fans? The films’ audience? Or do you mean on these boards?

We can’t like both? Why not let go of your missed expectations and just enjoy all three eras?

Fortunately, Disney+ puts Disney in a position to give different kinds of fans different kinds of content. How would you feel about a Book of Boba Fett overlay of the Galactic Starcruiser? Maybe an Obi-wan Kenobi side mission?

Original Trilogy Star Wars fansites exist. Maybe you’d be happier on one of those?

You’ve got me confused with a cosplay guy…

I’m saying it’s a BUSINESS failure - which it is - and that’s all that matters.

The miss on sequels will cost them a fortune…for forever.

You can believe me now…or wait a certain amount of time and believe me later

 

[ehh]

It seems there is not enough of "the place" to experience without the itineraries, though.

Activities all have limited capacity so they have to schedule them to give everyone a chance to cycle through and since it isn't a real cruise, the facility lacks a lot of the amenities people would expect for an at-your-own-pace "criuise".

The story and the character interactions are the whole deal and that's done with paid actors so you can't expect to be able to just go off on your own and stumble into an "adventure". That chance surprise encounter has to be scheduled to make sure everybody's at their markers when you walk in.

Otherwise, what is there to this experience?

Completely agree on these points.

You can peruse the entire ship and fully enjoy Sublight Lounge (drinks and Sabacc) between boarding and muster, just a few hours.

Yeah, there's parts you can't explore until the story unlocks them later but the locked spaces are purpose-built for the story and there's very little to them when exploring on your own. We managed to tailgate into a couple of these spaces before they unlocked for our story path and there was really no point for us to be there without the story making it relevant. We left almost immediately.

I guess if you wanted to go off-story you could play a lot of space bingo.

 

[Incomudro]

It seems there is not enough of "the place" to experience without the itineraries, though.

Activities all have limited capacity so they have to schedule them to give everyone a chance to cycle through and since it isn't a real cruise, the facility lacks a lot of the amenities people would expect for an at-your-own-pace experience.

The story and the character interactions are the whole deal and that's done with paid actors so you can't expect to be able to just go off on your own and stumble into an "adventure". That chance surprise encounter has to be scheduled to make sure everybody's at their markers when you walk in.

Otherwise, what is there to this experience?

Yes, the experience was conceived and constructed as a live theater environment.
Guests go to staged areas where the show is acted out.
It's not constructed as a full on space ship analogy.
As a ship alone there isn't all that much to it.

 

[corran horn]

You’re in the minority…by far. The bottomline is the bottomline.

The steaming shows are 80% OT era with a schmatter of prequel cross over. The product is 95% OT and PT.

Doesn’t matter what I think the consumers have spoken. Same with the fistful of Rian Johnson/KK defenders.

They pooched it. Disney too.

The bottom line? Do you think buying Star Wars lost money for Disney? They pretty much made up all that releasing TFA.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The bottom line? Do you think buying Star Wars lost money for Disney? They pretty much made up all that releasing TFA.

Prior to Disney’s acquisition of LFL…it was estimated that Star Wars had generated well over $100,000,000,000 in licensed product sales…
And a lot of that was in 1970s, 80s and 90s dollars.

Box office? …Is nothing…

They bought it for constant revenue…not 3 week bundles of box office. Look inside those numbers a little.

How much of Disney’s overall revenue is generated from movies? 10-15%.

Follow the money. Even in parks…the profit is in the merch.

On that front, it helps if you create reasons to by that stuff.
Now I’m don’t with open mic night. These roads are well trampled.