News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

Disstevefan1

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The question I was driving at, was, how full does this thing need to be, to turn a profit?

Do they need 90% occupancy? 75%

What happens when the initial demand does out, and if they then only get 70% full?
Yea, I guess we will see what happens.
I think there is a year or two of first timers who still want to do it?
 

mmascari

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I'm curious what it costs to operate compared to a regular Disney resort. It certainly requires less staff overall -- not just because it's smaller, but because they also don't need landscaping/groundskeeping, etc. -- but they're also likely paying most of the staff significantly more than regular resort staff. It also has a ton of additional technical support/upkeep compared to a standard resort because of all of the screens and effects, and they can't really afford to have anything not working at the price point.
Are you counting "hotel staff" and "show staff" as different and distinct groups?

While I would agree their is likely less "hotel staff" than a larger hotel, based on size. Most hotels don't have any "show staff" at all. If you combine them all into one group of "staff required", the number of staff per guest is likely much much larger than a normal hotel. All those "show staff" are getting paid as actors, producers, stage hands, and other show related jobs not as typical hotel staff jobs.

The math on how much occupancy is required to turn a profit probably looks more like a show than a hotel. How many tickets to Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue do they need to sell to make putting on a single show worthwhile? The "hotel" part of it is almost incidental then.




From the reviews we've seen, do we know how many of the little missions people are doing if the do one every possible minute they can?

I was trying to do some napkin math with meals, lodging, half day park ticket, diner shows, and missions. Compared to say doing all those things individually. If it was something like 20 missions over 21 hours when you're not doing those other things, at $40 a mission per person, the total cost wasn't that far off. Compared to say do a single local escape room activity that costs $30 per person at some random place. Of course, nobody buys local escape room activities in that type of bulk compressed time window.
 

Hawg G

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Are you counting "hotel staff" and "show staff" as different and distinct groups?

While I would agree their is likely less "hotel staff" than a larger hotel, based on size. Most hotels don't have any "show staff" at all. If you combine them all into one group of "staff required", the number of staff per guest is likely much much larger than a normal hotel. All those "show staff" are getting paid as actors, producers, stage hands, and other show related jobs not as typical hotel staff jobs.

The math on how much occupancy is required to turn a profit probably looks more like a show than a hotel. How many tickets to Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue do they need to sell to make putting on a single show worthwhile? The "hotel" part of it is almost incidental then.




From the reviews we've seen, do we know how many of the little missions people are doing if the do one every possible minute they can?

I was trying to do some napkin math with meals, lodging, half day park ticket, diner shows, and missions. Compared to say doing all those things individually. If it was something like 20 missions over 21 hours when you're not doing those other things, at $40 a mission per person, the total cost wasn't that far off. Compared to say do a single local escape room activity that costs $30 per person at some random place. Of course, nobody buys local escape room activities in that type of bulk compressed time window.
Yeah, nobody goes out and does every escape room in NYC in one weekend.

And although I haven't watched a lot, I think each mission is more like a Magiquest mission of showing your phone here. Walk way over there, then go to the room to use a rune on your phone to go to some small little puzzle area. Hardly a 60 minute escape room of entertainment.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Yeah, nobody goes out and does every escape room in NYC in one weekend.

And although I haven't watched a lot, I think each mission is more like a Magiquest mission of showing your phone here. Walk way over there, then go to the room to use a rune on your phone to go to some small little puzzle area. Hardly a 60 minute escape room of entertainment.
No, that is not what each mission is like.

If you don't know what's actually happening, you'll continue to say false things like that.

And if you don't know what's actually happening, I don't know how you even have the nerve to comment.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Why did they add the plastic frame in the middle of the window? The window is already much smaller than it should be (and smaller than what was showed in the concept art). But that frame makes it seem even smaller than it is...
Real-life space window...

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larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member


Yeah but that picture is multiple windows seperated by a frame that gives you one combined big view not one window with one tiny view as the poster you qouted was saying. Their point stands.
What makes you think Disney didn't realize that a huge picture window on a space ship -- as in one of 100 -- might not be the most accurate simulation to attempt?

Some engineer out there please calculate how thick a window measuring 65 inches diagonally would have to be to withstand internal pressure near one atmosphere versus the relative vacuum of space.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Some engineer out there please calculate how thick a window measuring 65 inches diagonally would have to be to withstand internal pressure near one atmosphere versus the relative vacuum of space.

I'm not sure that really matters in context, though. It's Star Wars -- there's tons of stuff that doesn't make scientific sense. And there's precedence in the movies for massive views out into surrounding space.
 

_caleb

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What makes you think Disney didn't realize that a huge picture window on a space ship -- as in one of 100 -- might not be the most accurate simulation to attempt?

Some engineer out there please calculate how thick a window measuring 65 inches diagonally would have to be to withstand internal pressure near one atmosphere versus the relative vacuum of space.

While there are lots of examples of windows with frames in Star Wars, “windows“ on ships are made of transparent steel. They can be really big.

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Larger openings into space are made using magnetic fields that large objects can pass through. These can be huge (see the RotR hangar scene, for example).

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GimpYancIent

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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Meh. The newness, the unexplored, the freshness, the surprises are all gone. The exclusivity of being among the first is gone. It is already old news. Now it is already an aging attraction, the question is how well this rapid aging process is treating it?
Dates continue to sell out on a regular basis. Not quickly, but they added three more months because of demand.

We don't know if all those un-sold-out dates are 5% booked or 95% booked. So, clearly not a runaway must-do for the millions, but not going backwards, either.

We'll see how many whales there are in the ocean.
 

TikibirdLand

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Dates continue to sell out on a regular basis. Not quickly, but they added three more months because of demand.

We don't know if all those un-sold-out dates are 5% booked or 95% booked. So, clearly not a runaway must-do for the millions, but not going backwards, either.

We'll see how many whales there are in the ocean.
Certainly more than I would have guessed. Very impressed with the bookings.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
And don't forget this is mostly US bookings as they are currently not mass advertising it outside of the US, when you click the link in the UK it doesn't take you to a booking page just a page telling you to ring for more info
We need more people with a British accent to participate so that the First Order is better represented.
 

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