Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker Reactions: SPOILERS

TROR

Well-Known Member
I just did. Two posts above, if you'd care to read it.
If Rian Johnson didn't follow what had been set up, then Rey wouldn't have been Ahch To when the movie began and Luke Skywalker would've already been out of hiding. Not answering your questions about Snoke's origins is not abandoning the story. The story is about Rey, Kylo Ren, Poe, and Finn. Everything else is not the focus.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Dude, stop whining. The Last Jedi's a fine movie. Like I said, answer how Rian stepped over JJ's work and contradicted what had been set up, or shut up. I'm not responding to your moaning again. Grow up. I didn't think TROS was good, but I'm not digging deep into why or how because I can just have fun with what I was given or move on in life like an adult.
Dude...the tough guy routine isn’t gonna work on this one.

Talk about how you hate the Star Wars land in disneyland...that may play here.

People have voted with their wallet:

Product sales are down
Last Johnson flatlines at the box office
Solo bombed
Return of the abrams is going to Finish Wayyyy under expectations

The damage is real...the jury is back
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Not really. What did Rian ruin from TFA? Things like Kylo destroying his helmet, Snoke dying, Rey being nobody aren’t undoing TFA, they’re growing the story. Maybe it’s not how you or JJ wanted the story to go, but it’s not a contradiction to what was set up in TFA. Compare that to Luke sparking hope at the end of TLJ and then he didn’t in TROS, or Rose having romantic interest in Finn in TLJ and then having none in TROS.
Neither JJ or Rians story is what I wanted if I'm being honest. And realistically the way ep9 went, wasn't the way you wanted it to go obviously. But Rian took Finn and Hux and made them fools. I'm sick of hearing about Rose because Rian did no better with Maz, and Maz had a lot more potential than Rose in my opinion. You really can't argue that Rian took the story forward, I just don't like it. And then say JJ was wrong for doing the exact same thing. Just because you didn't like it. Sorry but thats not a great argument. Rey wasn't a nobody makes a lot of sense in the Skywalker saga. And Luke did spark hope, when the chips were down and the opportunity was there, they came. No matter what you thought of either of them. It should have been ONE vision. That is the crux of this whole argument. I'm not on JJs side or Rians.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The Jaws movies went down hill with each release. The Original Jaws was a great movie and the only Jaws movie worth seeing. Universal blew it with the remakes by going cheap. Profits are one thing but a high quality movie is more important in the long run.
...You know who else did that recently with sequels?
 

TROR

Well-Known Member
Neither JJ or Rians story is what I wanted if I'm being honest. And realistically the way ep9 went, wasn't the way you wanted it to go obviously. But Rian took Finn and Hux and made them fools. I'm sick of hearing about Rose because Rian did no better with Maz, and Maz had a lot more potential than Rose in my opinion. You really can't argue that Rian took the story forward, I just don't like it. And then say JJ was wrong for doing the exact same thing. Just because you didn't like it. Sorry but thats not a great argument. Rey wasn't a nobody makes a lot of sense in the Skywalker saga. And Luke did spark hope, when the chips were down and the opportunity was there, they came. No matter what you thought of either of them. It should have been ONE vision. That is the crux of this whole argument. I'm not on JJs side or Rians.
An actual answer. I disagree, but at least it's an answer that's not whining.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Neither JJ or Rians story is what I wanted if I'm being honest. And realistically the way ep9 went, wasn't the way you wanted it to go obviously. But Rian took Finn and Hux and made them fools. I'm sick of hearing about Rose because Rian did no better with Maz, and Maz had a lot more potential than Rose in my opinion. You really can't argue that Rian took the story forward, I just don't like it. And then say JJ was wrong for doing the exact same thing. Just because you didn't like it. Sorry but thats not a great argument. Rey wasn't a nobody makes a lot of sense in the Skywalker saga. And Luke did spark hope, when the chips were down and the opportunity was there, they came. No matter what you thought of either of them. It should have been ONE vision. That is the crux of this whole argument. I'm not on JJs side or Rians.

They both failed miserably...my opinion

Remakes never wanted and reversals of direction never needed.

Was not gonna work.

I posted the article from yesterday upthread: they thought they had something with the farce awakens when really they didn’t have anything...

That was the public and Star Wars fans vote of confidence in Disney taking it over. They misread it.

Why is rogue one kinda “cult classic” already? It’s the only director that got it...the pathos and ethos of the originals to a certain extent.

How much of an indictment is it that Kennedy scoffed at him? The canary in the coal mine.


Way back upthread I warned that NONE of these three movies are good and won’t be Regarded as such.

I also asked two weeks ago when the box office was already coming up short: are the prequels better?

The question still stands
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
My last take on 9.

Long time fan of the SW films but not of all Star Wars. Not that dedicated but really enjoyed The Mandolorian.

Bringing back the emperor was fine with me though I know it retcons a lot. Don't care. Great performance and very compelling. Loved all the acting in the movie.

Light speed jumping was the first oooohhhhh, ahhhhhhh, SW movie experience I have had since the OT.

The technical wizardry and sound design were turned up to 11. 😲😍💪👍

That is all.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
My last take on 9.

Long time fan of the SW films but not of all Star Wars. Not that dedicated but really enjoyed The Mandolorian.

Bringing back the emperor was fine with me though I know it retcons a lot. Don't care. Great performance and very compelling. Loved all the acting in the movie.

Light speed jumping was the first oooohhhhh, ahhhhhhh, SW movie experience I have had since the OT.

The technical wizardry and sound design were turned up to 11. 😲😍💪👍

That is all.
I’m glad you liked it...

The audience doesn’t share your love....no resonance

The DT: reboot...wrong turn...retcon
 

TROR

Well-Known Member
Why is rogue one kinda “cult classic” already? It’s the only director that got it...the pathos and ethos of the originals to a certain extent.
No. Rogue One is a fanboy's wet dream with no substance or depth. I don't hate Galaxy's Edge, but I do hate Rogue One. That movie misses the mark on what Star Wars is: a silly space fairy tale for children. It takes itself way too seriously and has nothing to say. A cool space battle with no emotional stakes. Man, that movie sucks. A big budget fan film.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
No. Rogue One is a fanboy's wet dream with no substance or depth. I don't hate Galaxy's Edge, but I do hate Rogue One. That movie misses the mark on what Star Wars is: a silly space fairy tale for children. It takes itself way too seriously and has nothing to say. A cool space battle with no emotional stakes. Man, that movie sucks. A big budget fan film.
I was wondering when you were gonna turn your millennial tough guy act towards me?

Oh goodie 🤗


First...you whined and b!tzed about “Galaxy’s edge” in Anaheim for months...

Now you’re a fan? Why? A dark ride...Adam driver AA?

Please...it’s still devoid of emotion...empty...ignoring the popular IP in favor of two bad movies...

And ultimately: shows Disney still can’t get it...

“Galaxy’s edge”...made up planets...great

That is fanboy, Bud...Disney apologist.

Notice James Cameron didn’t call his avatarland: “bulcacalonono”

Why? He’s not stupid
 
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"El Gran Magnifico"

Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
That movie misses the mark on what Star Wars is: a silly space fairy tale for children. It takes itself way too seriously and has nothing to say. A cool space battle with no emotional stakes. Man, that movie sucks. A big budget fan film.

And what big budget films are you A FAN OF?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
And what big budget films are you A FAN OF?
Don’t bother...

I see his took his age off his profile but he’s like 25 and complains about everything done in Disneyland...

He’s now moved on to “anonymous keyboard Rambo”


What the point of arguing with anyone (and this is a Twitter like faux argument to mess with people anyway) who says Star Wars were kids movies?

That’s completely opposite and you can’t even teach someone who says that.

It’s trying to teach a dog how to install a dishwasher
 

TROR

Well-Known Member
And what big budget films are you A FAN OF?
The Last Jedi.

Don’t bother...

I see his took his age off his profile but he’s like 25 and complains about everything done in Disneyland...

He’s now moved on to “anonymous keyboard Rambo”


What the point of arguing with anyone (and this is a Twitter like faux argument to mess with people anyway) who says Star Wars were kids movies?

That’s completely opposite and you can’t even teach someone who says that.

It’s trying to teach a dog how to install a dishwasher
If my age is no longer on my profile, it's not because I took it off. I'm 21.

Star Wars is literally for kids, you child. It's a series of films about wizards, princesses, queens, and knights.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
I also asked two weeks ago when the box office was already coming up short: are the prequels better?

The question still stands
On the surface I would call it a draw. As of now they both fail in different areas. The sequel trilogy had more star wars moments and visually felt more like star wars. But the prequels told a singular story vision. I've had a long time to come to terms with my issues with the prequels so I would give the edge to them right now.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
On the surface I would call it a draw. As of now they both fail in different areas. The sequel trilogy had more star wars moments and visually felt more like star wars. But the prequels told a singular story vision. I've had a long time to come to terms with my issues with the prequels so I would give the edge to them right now.

Yep...
So how did Disney buy out Lucas and make the same mistakes in new and dumbfounding ways??
 

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