The Force Awakens isn’t the movie that caused the division we currently see. Also most people that are dissatisfied with the Sequel Trilogy aren’t opposed to new Star Wars products that are actually good like The Mandalorian and Jedi Fallen Order.
I’m in just for curiosity’s sake on RoS. Will it actually be a satisfying new ending that justifies undoing RotJ? We shall see.
Yes and no. You can never lose sight of what made something special to the fans. Fan service, is more often then not, referenced as a bad thing. I truly don't believe that. The sonic the hedgehog trailer that came out first, was one of the worst things I have seen. The fans flipped out so they went back and redesigned sonic. Some say that was a bad move and sets a bad precedent. I say thank you for listening because the new design is true to the original and the trailer looked a lot better. The question is why change something that didn't need changing? No one asked for what we got at the end of the first episode of the Mandalorian. But because of a very fan first approach to making the show, nearly the entire audience who has seen it, loves it. It is a fine line to walk. You can't can't just listen to one portion of a fan base. But you should never take your finger off the pulse of what the fanbase feels/wants.
It’s basically a difficult task no matter what that’s made a bit easier depending on who’s in charge and their vision.
I'm in agreement here.. hoping RoS will close this out somehow in the right way. TFA line of "this will begin to make things right" was a joy for me to hear.. I like TFA (minus death planet) and its development of a great future. I teared up over the first TLJ trailer.. those were exciting times man. Then the credits rolled on TLJ and those tears turned to a heart break. Because of this heart break, people said I was anti female, and I must be 40 yrs old living in my moms basement. These same people SEEM to be the same type who are in charge of the new disney trilogy... they get star wars in part, but they are missing it at the same time.I’m in just for curiosity’s sake on RoS. Will it actually be a satisfying new ending that justifies undoing RotJ? We shall see.
My expectations aren’t high.
Btw I also enjoyed TFA. I was intrigued by the mysteries brought up and was left wanting more especially with that cliffhanger. Then the next movie threw all of it out the window to be “subversive”
The "you're anti female, anti diversity, neck beard, man child" because you don't like the direction of Disneys star wars is the side I hate the most. Almost any fan who loves the OT, has no concerns about diversity in star wars. Star wars was a pioneer in this regard. And unfortunately, some of the people in charge at Lucasfilm, think it's a great idea to fan those anti diversity flames.
When the more positive fans go quiet, the anti-female, anti-diversity, neck beard, man childs rise. When this is called out, suddenly it's all moderates with nuanced criticism. I realize they too exist, but that stigma also exists for a good reason. They are out there. I don't believe they are legion, but they do like to post with maddening regularity.
Because in the Prequel era George Lucas was in charge of LucasFilm and he got the criticism. In this era Kennedy’s in charge of LucasFilm so she gets the criticism. Seems pretty fair and equal to me unless you think she should be free of criticism just for being a woman.
No, they are for diversity. But what they were doing, was poking the bear. Do you not remember the pictures of the Lucasfilm people posting pictures of themselves drinking from mugs that said "fanboy tears"? I know there are some toxic fans who don't like the new star wars because it's been 4 out of 5 movies with female leads. But the way they handled that was all wrong.
I hear ya, I liked Brick and Looper as well. Playing with new ideas might be a good role for him, cause he crafted a few good stories for low budget films. When it comes to established stories, well he seems to like to be a bit divisive and try and subvert your expectations way to much. So I wouldn't want him writing a Lord of the Rings or Star Wars, but new ideas I'm down with.
I’ve only seen Looper and feel the whole psychic powers thing lost me a bit. It would’ve been fine as just a time travel movie.
Sadly there will always be extremes, but you never judge the normal dislike of these movies by those few extremist. That's called profiling. I bet you, that if Rey was Ray the male hero, Ray would have probably gotten more negativity because of him being a male. Atleast Rey being a female I'm sure gets some slack because men do respect women and have a caring nature towards them. People just want you to respect the characters that got you here, while ushering in the new. Disney didn't do this very well.
I agree, the ending lost me a bit. But everything else I enjoyed. Brick was a cool high school detective movie, which was different..
Yes, the last jedi didn't kill star wars. But it sure as heck created a divide, and part of Solos performance shows that. Like you said, most thought it was a fun movie, but casuals, and regular fans didn't show up. It was more than just people boycotting, but a big part was people voicing their opinion that they don't like the direction of star wars. The mandolorian is proof TLJ didn't kill star wars.
It was Herculean because she shouldn't have been the one in charge to do it. Is it all her fault? No, Iger has a lot of blame as well. He should have never let Kennedy be in control of the creative side of star wars. But you couple that with her defiance with the fans and sure, she's going to take extra heat.
