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Star Wars Ep. 9 Thread

Surferboy567

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Wasn't Lucas' story about the micro world of midiclorians and the Whills? I understand Lucas being upset, but I don't think Iger was wrong to go in a new direction.
SOMEONE gets it. Yes, he’s George Lucas, and I get why it’s upsetting to watch the creator get “betrayed“ but remember this is the man who wrote and direct episodes 1 and 2 and while sure they are some redeeming qualities of the prequels (I personally like 3). Maybe it wasn’t too bad to step away from the midiclorans.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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SOMEONE gets it. Yes, he’s George Lucas, and I get why it’s upsetting to watch the creator get “betrayed“ but remember this is the man who wrote and direct episodes 1 and 2 and while sure they are some redeeming qualities of the prequels (I personally like 3). Maybe it wasn’t too bad to step away from the midiclorans.
I am nowhere near pro-Lucas. I loved the sale of LFL to Disney...lauded it and talked it up.

Then they did a reboot...then they decided there didn’t have to be a central arc...

Then they shoved R1 into a drawer...I believe because it was “too much like Star Wars” 😳


So I don’t weep for George. He made merch focused movies with yes men around him and they were not good.

There’s an amazing clip of rick McCallum - the ultimate yes man - after the first screening of ep 1 in skywalker ranch just railing on all the stuff that didn’t work. But it was too late.

So George ultimately got what he deserved.
 

mnelson3

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So has it been confirmed what Emperor Palpatines involvement will be in Episode 9? I’ve heard everything from just a short vision or force ghost, to a full on return back from the dead?
 
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erasure fan1

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So has it been confirmed what Emperor Palpatines involvement will be in Episode 9? I’ve heard everything from just a short vision or force ghost, to a full on return back from the dead?
I don't think that will come to light until the movie releases. I would be shocked if we even see the emperor in the trailer. JJ is too much a secret squirrel kinda guy to give that info out.
 

erasure fan1

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Well his face is on the new poster so....

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But we know he's in the movie in some capacity. One image in the background of a poster doesn't tell you if he's alive and well, a ghost, one of those robot things from battlefront 2, a vision... showing him in the context of a trailer, revels a lot in my opinion. And that isn't a JJ thing to do. Look at the length he went to keep Kahn a secret. I could be way off, but they seem to be taking the endgame approach with this one. And reveaing the emperor in a trailer would be a HUGE spoiler. Unless they shot fake scenes to throw us off. I just don't see them doing that.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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I’m gonna assume the big reveal is some form of Anakin Vader...which is why “master of mystery” abrams let the emperor be known so early.

It’s the best logical “surprise” given what he’s got left to work with...

I can recognize that abrams can start a story - Disney mandated reboot aside - but he can’t close. Which is probably why he removes himself from series and movie serials.

I do wonder how he would have played it had he done all 3...but I understand why he didn’t. I’m 101% sure Lucas and speilberg told him not to commit fully. Huge risk/time commitment.
 

Prince-1

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But we know he's in the movie in some capacity. One image in the background of a poster doesn't tell you if he's alive and well, a ghost, one of those robot things from battlefront 2, a vision... showing him in the context of a trailer, revels a lot in my opinion. And that isn't a JJ thing to do. Look at the length he went to keep Kahn a secret. I could be way off, but they seem to be taking the endgame approach with this one. And reveaing the emperor in a trailer would be a HUGE spoiler. Unless they shot fake scenes to throw us off. I just don't see them doing that.
Alive, dead, space ghost, cardboard cutout...who cares. It's a stupid idea bringing him back and it shows that JJ has a severe shortage of any original ideas.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Denis Lawson has confirmed through a rep that Wedge is in episode 9...that makes me reconsider seeing it...slightly
 

erasure fan1

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Alive, dead, space ghost, cardboard cutout...who cares. It's a stupid idea bringing him back and it shows that JJ has a severe shortage of any original ideas.
Well now you're talking about something completely different. I'm not super thrilled about going back down the emperor road either. The point being made was about JJ and his secrecy and if the emperor shows up in the trailer. And I think he won't.
 

erasure fan1

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I can recognize that abrams can start a story - Disney mandated reboot aside - but he can’t close. Which is probably why he removes himself from series and movie serials.

I do wonder how he would have played it had he done all 3
I wonder what he would have done with all 3 as well. But more so what would he have done if he was able to create his own story without the Disney/Kennedy stipulations. Oh well too late for that. Feige can't take over soon enough.
 

Mike S

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Denis Lawson has confirmed through a rep that Wedge is in episode 9...that makes me reconsider seeing it...slightly
Episode 9 should’ve been the point where we’re fully invested in the new characters and the old characters gracefully passed the torch. We shouldn’t still be getting these cameos lol.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Episode 9 should’ve been the point where we’re fully invested in the new characters and the old characters gracefully passed the torch. We shouldn’t still be getting these cameos lol.
I normally agree...but in Star Wars there are some characters that have gravity.

Rogue Leader is on that small list.

And what was one of the biggest mistakes kathy’s Boy toy made in 8? Not giving proper respect to a fan favorite character. They will never be forgiven for that by many.

So if I could hypothetically smile once or twice with this...worth a try.

Could it be...dare I ask?...a well executed “blaze of glory” scene?

One can hope
 

erasure fan1

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Episode 9 should’ve been the point where we’re fully invested in the new characters and the old characters gracefully passed the torch. We shouldn’t still be getting these cameos lol.
That's why this whole thing is so infuriating. All the fans wanted was the first movie, the gangs all back together. The 2nd movie the new characters start to come to prominence. And like you said, by the 3rd movie we are fully invested in the new. And therefore our heroes can ride off into the sunset or go out with the heroes death. It's kind of sad how easy a concept this was and it got so screwed up.
 

sedati

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That's why this whole thing is so infuriating. All the fans wanted was the first movie, the gangs all back together. The 2nd movie the new characters start to come to prominence. And like you said, by the 3rd movie we are fully invested in the new. And therefore our heroes can ride off into the sunset or go out with the heroes death. It's kind of sad how easy a concept this was and it got so screwed up.
The trilogies are broken up by generations.
Episode IV didn't put elderly Obi Wan and Vader in the forefront. It wasn't called An Old Hope.
Episode VII is better with an awakening rather than The Return of the Return of the Jedi.

A greatest hits album is not in of itself a great new work. I think there's too much focus on what wasn't done. Rey resonated. Kylo is intriguing. Someday they might play second fiddle to some new generation, and hopefully people then will be open-minded enough to understand why.

Frodo? Who cares about Frodo and his stupid fellowship. The Tolkein fans just want to see Bilbo back with the Dwarves. It's kind of sad how easy a concept this was and it got so screwed up.
 
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