Star Wars Ep. 9 Thread

Anders Limpar

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The obvious answer would be they have come to make them all go boom.

I thought the Resistance was down to bare bones after the TLJ. If that fleet is the Rebel fleet, were did they come from? It looks more to me like the Rebels than the Resistance but it's hard to tell.

Do the Rebels even exist as a separate entity from the Resistance or are they one in the same? I thought the Resistance was a slight spinoff of the Rebels but a separate entity. I'm confused.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I thought the Resistance was down to bare bones after the TLJ. If that fleet is the Rebel fleet, were did they come from? It looks more to me like the Rebels than the Resistance but it's hard to tell.

Do the Rebels even exist as a separate entity from the Resistance or are they one in the same? I thought the Resistance was a slight spinoff of the Rebels but a separate entity. I'm confused.

like every star wars movie... "ok, this is important.. because this is like everything we got... (blow it up) (next movie) ok, we lost a lot, but we had all this other stuff too we didn't show you last time..."
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Watch the trailer again and just listen to the sounds just after Palpatine speaks and the screen goes dark.
I hear multiple things layered over one another.
A regular breath. (Padme dying?)
A Darth Vader breath.
Some sort of wavering artificial sound.
A voice?
Lightning.

Yep...they are trying to kiss fan butts.

This is where the cows come home. They knew they had a problem for awhile...starting with treverow...Kathy’s boyfriend fan film went nowhere, ticked a lot of old guard off...solo flopped...Iger put everything on ice for a year...the get abrams and I believe we’re gonna find out there were massive rewrites or corporate directives to “fix it” as best they could.

And this does look a lot like the Zahn books...a lot.

I dig it...give it your best JJ bank account.
I thought the Resistance was down to bare bones after the TLJ. If that fleet is the Rebel fleet, were did they come from? It looks more to me like the Rebels than the Resistance but it's hard to tell.

Do the Rebels even exist as a separate entity from the Resistance or are they one in the same? I thought the Resistance was a slight spinoff of the Rebels but a separate entity. I'm confused.
Yep...your are correct.

Because all the new sides stuff was and is completely stupid (would help with the land’s to not to intentionally cut off the association with a billion or so Star Wars fans worldwide) and Johnson’s movie was the work of a complete moron.

(Here’s were I get scoffed at for telling the truth again...I bet)
 
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Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Why waste a perfectly good fleet? They’re rebels. Take them. Paint them.
Because stealing them doesn't look as good on screen as firing a couple of thousand proton torpedoes at them.;)

If this in fact what is happening, I am sure there will be a reason. Whether it is a good reason or not is another matter.

I thought the Resistance was down to bare bones after the TLJ. If that fleet is the Rebel fleet, were did they come from? It looks more to me like the Rebels than the Resistance but it's hard to tell.

Do the Rebels even exist as a separate entity from the Resistance or are they one in the same? I thought the Resistance was a slight spinoff of the Rebels but a separate entity. I'm confused.
The Resistance is sort of the evolution of the Rebels.

Many of the Rebels went back to their normal lives after the last remnant of Empire fell at Jakku. Some took leadership roles in the New Republic.

The Empire was reduced to what is called a rump state under the peace treaty known as the Galactic Concordance. A number of officers, nobles, etc. from the Empire rejected the GC and retreated to Unknown Space and began to form the First Order.

The New Republic seemed content to kind of ignore the First Order and Leia was sidelined from the new leadership as they thought her concerns about the ever growing First Order we just paranoia. It also did not help when everyone found out that her dear old dad was Darth Vader.

The Republic began the demilitarization of the New Republic Defense Fleet in the interest of pursuing peace and preventing a galactic war from ever occurring again.

This prompted Leia to start the Resistance knowing that it was only a matter of time before the First Order attempted to take over the New Republic. The first strike was Star Killer base destroying the entire Senate, most of the remaining New Republic fleet and their capital on Hosnian Prime.

As to where they got the ships we see, we really don't know yet. The majority of the ships we see in that scene are small one man fighters that might have been mothballed somewhere when the New Republic began to disarm itself. They also could have been pieced together from whatever parts they could find from various old battlefields scattered all over the galaxy.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Because stealing them doesn't look as good on screen as firing a couple of thousand proton torpedoes at them.;)

If this in fact what is happening, I am sure there will be a reason. Whether it is a good reason or not is another matter.


The Resistance is sort of the evolution of the Rebels.

Many of the Rebels went back to their normal lives after the last remnant of Empire fell at Jakku. Some took leadership roles in the New Republic.

The Empire was reduced to what is called a rump state under the peace treaty known as the Galactic Concordance. A number of officers, nobles, etc. from the Empire rejected the GC and retreated to Unknown Space and began to form the First Order.

The New Republic seemed content to kind of ignore the First Order and Leia was sidelined from the new leadership as they thought her concerns about the ever growing First Order we just paranoia. It also did not help when everyone found out that her dear old dad was Darth Vader.

The Republic began the demilitarization of the New Republic Defense Fleet in the interest of pursuing peace and preventing a galactic war from ever occurring again.

This prompted Leia to start the Resistance knowing that it was only a matter of time before the First Order attempted to take over the New Republic. The first strike was Star Killer base destroying the entire Senate, most of the remaining New Republic fleet and their capital on Hosnian Prime.

As to where they got the ships we see, we really don't know yet. The majority of the ships we see in that scene are small one man fighters that might have been mothballed somewhere when the New Republic began to disarm itself. They also could have been pieced together from whatever parts they could find from various old battlefields scattered all over the galaxy.
So read all those books that Disney told everyone not to read because it’s not on the screen, huh?

You see the problem with bad management, now?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I must not have received that memo.
That’s because it’s “complicated”

You see...when you publicly abandone the EU (which i actually agree with)...where novels tended to go

Then you promote you’re grandiose new movies as all original/new...

Then you have the king of remakes do a freaking remake with a Death Star and new “sides”...

But you go “prequel” in not explaining anything...

Then go full 180 and release books to explain the backstory....

It gets “complicated”


Hollywood 101: never expect the movie goer to read a backstory while pursuing a different agenda.

And don’t make 2 out of 3 movies without any guts.


I wonder how George woulda handled 3 new movies after 1983? I bet he wouldn’t of made those kinda mistakes, huh? 🤪
 

LieutLaww

Hello There
Premium Member
In the Parks
No
Yes we get it you don't like the new Star wars stuff, instead of clogging up this thread with your complaining about it how about make a new thread so you can complain about it in there.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Yes we get it you don't like the new Star wars stuff, instead of clogging up this thread with your complaining about it how about make a new thread so you can complain about it in there.
Or you can change my mind with your persuasive arguments of why it’s good?

...that would shut me up but good 😉
 

LieutLaww

Hello There
Premium Member
In the Parks
No
There is no point, you don't listen even when people tell you why they enjoy it you just scoff at their answers like they know nothing.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
There is no point, you don't listen even when people tell you why they enjoy it you just scoff at their answers like they know nothing.
Not true...

What’s your favorite part of the story? Which characters drive it? What actors develop an emotional attachment with how they play their parts? What moment triggered the best memory? The most emotionally poignant one?

Make a case
 

LSLS

Well-Known Member
So I'm going to come off real negative here, but I hated the red lightsaber scene for two reasons. 1, I dont believe it. They may shock me, but the last movie, I cant imagine they turn the only good guy bad. Second (and this one is about 90 percent of it), they teased the EXACT same thing in the last jedi trailer. You cant tease the exact same thing every movie.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
So I'm going to come off real negative here, but I hated the red lightsaber scene for two reasons. 1, I dont believe it. They may shock me, but the last movie, I cant imagine they turn the only good guy bad. Second (and this one is about 90 percent of it), they teased the EXACT same thing in the last jedi trailer. You cant tease the exact same thing every movie.
The problem is they have yet to come up with any kinda of “story” here at all.

They got caught straddling the line between “reunion” movies and “reboot”, ending up slipping and falling on the narrative fenceposts.

No clear agenda
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
So I'm going to come off real negative here, but I hated the red lightsaber scene for two reasons. 1, I dont believe it. They may shock me, but the last movie, I cant imagine they turn the only good guy bad. Second (and this one is about 90 percent of it), they teased the EXACT same thing in the last jedi trailer. You cant tease the exact same thing every movie.
While I think I pooped myself a bit with the double saber, in no way do I think it isn't a dream/vision... something like that. That scene screams misdirection. If JJ and Disney have taught us anything, it's don't trust what's in a trailer.
 

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