SPOILERS: The Mandalorian Season 2 Discussion

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Only slightly above average fan: So that's the Ahsoka chick everyone raves about mentioning the Thrawn guy everyone raves about. Cool. Hope they're as interesting as people say they are. :D

And we're going to a Jedi Temple - fun! (Pictures Tomorrowland Terrance Jedi Training Academy location.) Plus Empire throwbacks! And something about bad things happening to baby padawans - that's a prequels thing - don't think about those much but they had Maul and he's badass and young Obi-Wan who is getting a series, too.

Baby Yoda using the Force cutely - awww! And getting a weird name. Mmkay. At least it's not "Yappy" or "Yippee!" or "Yodelayheehoo!". :D

What’s funny is that is exactly what fans are clamoring for...
...which is a testament to how bad Bob, King of Ip’s stewards have gummed it up.
 

erasure fan1

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which is a testament to how bad Bob, King of Ip’s stewards have gummed it up.
I think this whole show is a testament to that. What is funny, is that the 2 things that are praised the most under Disney star wars. Are the 2 things that go against Iger and Kennedys vision of breaking away from Lucas star wars. The Mandalorian and Rogue one. Both give a huge helping of Original and prequel nostalgia. And surprise, surprise, people love it.
 

champdisney

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Absolutely. Franchises are built on fan service...not “subverting expectations”. That’s what they’ve gotten wrong from the start. The best Franchise “fan service” movie ever was Last Crusade. I don’t think anyone has ever done as good of a job of integrating fan weenies and different angles with the prime characters as that.

They tried with revenge of the sith...but the damage was done.
For me the term fan service has become cliché since TLJ. I’m not going to turn this into another rant thread about TLJ, however I can’t stop myself from remembering that time in the Fall of 2012 when K. Kennedy promised to uphold the mythos of the franchise and five years later we got, like you said... the subversion of expectations.

Star Wars is all about delivering the goods to those who love what came before it while inviting those who have not experienced it. Fan service was good before it subverted my expectations in the worst way possible. Just give me good stories from people who know the source material.

The Mandolorian is where it’s at.
 

Screamface

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Star Wars is all about delivering the goods to those who love what came before it while inviting those who have not experienced it. Fan service was good before it subverted my expectations in the worst way possible. Just give me good stories from people who know the source material.

We should just call the problem for what it was. What happened was a disrespect and under-valuing for the source material. Which I don't think is the opposite of fan service. It's much worse.

There's also the ego game. The people behing the Mandolorian don't appear to be of the delusion that just because they're in control of a Star Wars property, that they are bigger than Star Wars and Star Wars is now whatever they say it is.

They appear to know Star Wars, like Star Wars, respect Star Wars, enjoy Star Wars and want to make Star Wars.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
We should just call the problem for what it was. What happened was a disrespect and under-valuing for the source material. Which I don't think is the opposite of fan service. It's much worse.

There's also the ego game, the people being the Mandolorian don't appear to be of the delusion that just because they're in control of a Star Wars property, that they are bigger than Star Wars and Star Wars is now whatever they say it is.

They appear to know Star Wars, like Star Wars, respect Star Wars, enjoy Star Wars and want to make Star Wars.

The general consensus/fallout seems to be that there was corporate hubris for money combined with a LFL story group that had a complete ego trip/lack of knowledge of what Star Wars is...

Ok. I’m climbing back out of the well I’ve fallen into now 😉
 

champdisney

Well-Known Member
Screamface said:
We should just call the problem for what it was. What happened was a disrespect and under-valuing for the source material. Which I don't think is the opposite of fan service. It's much worse.

There's also the ego game. The people behing the Mandolorian don't appear to be of the delusion that just because they're in control of a Star Wars property, that they are bigger than Star Wars and Star Wars is now whatever they say it is.

They appear to know Star Wars, like Star Wars, respect Star Wars, enjoy Star Wars and want to make Star Wars.
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Great observation. The concern I have, I guess you can call it a minor one is the possibility of good things (The Mandalorian) becoming meddled with in the future. What was that insider term that was used regarding the sequel trilogy?... Oh right, too many cooks in the kitchen.

I have faith in Favreau, Filoni and the rest of the Mando crew but what if at some point the powers at be want to flip the script in their favor. I’m reading comments in this thread and all over social media of casual viewers complaining that the latest episode is throwing them off with the introduction of Ahsoka and the small Clone Wars references.

I’ve read comments - all as if they were replicated, voicing their frustration towards having/needing to watch Clone Wars to know what’s going on in the current show, with the “if they continue to throw in more random characters I’m done with this show!” as the ending sass-phrase. It offends them that they do not know some of the references being said or characters being introduced and when offered the solution of watching the Clone Wars or doing a quick read up on Google, they make it clear that they have no interest in doing so. It all leads to them threatening to stop watching The Mandolorian all together. Shades of Pedro Pascal abandoning set to complain to K. Kennedy... That guy sure has a following. I kid... or am I? 🤔

Continuing on. I think if it were up to me, I say stop watching if you must but with Disney... ehh... not the same. There’s the wish of wanting people to stop complaining over good content and realizing that one of the men responsible for the show was also the head of both TCW and Rebels. However, some folks just do not care for backstory and lore. The irony is that Star Wars is full of it and it’s beautiful.

‘Til then, I’m just enjoying the ride.
 

dreday3

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Great observation. The concern I have, I guess you can call it a miner one is the possibility of good things (The Mandalorian) becoming meddled with in the future. What was that insider term that was used regarding the sequel trilogy?... Oh right, too many cooks in the kitchen.

I have faith in Favreau, Filoni and the rest of the Mando crew but what if at some point the powers at be want to flip the script in their favor. I’m reading comments in this thread and all over social media of casual viewers complaining that the latest episode is throwing them off with the introduction of Ahsoka and the small Clone Wars references.

I’ve read comments - all as if they were replicated, voicing their frustration towards having/needing to watch Clone Wars to know what’s going on in the current show, with the “if they continue to throw in more random characters I’m done with this show!” as the ending sass-phrase. It offends them that they do not know some of the references being said or characters being introduced and when offered the solution of watching the Clone Wars or doing a quick read up on Google, they make it clear that they have no interest in doing so. It all leads to them threatening to stop watching The Mandolorian all together. Shades of Pedro Pascal abandoning set to complain to K. Kennedy... That guy sure has a following. I kid... or am I? 🤔

Continuing on. I think if it were up to me, I say stop watching if you must but with Disney... ehh... not the same. There’s the wish of wanting people to stop complaining over good content and realizing that one of the men responsible for the show was also the head of both TCW and Rebels. However, some folks just do not care for backstory and lore. The irony is that Star Wars is full of it and it’s beautiful.

‘Til then, I’m just enjoying the ride.

A bit melodramatic, no?

I think 2 of us were talking about it. Unless I'm more powerful than I realize, they aren't going to change whatever vision they have for Mandalorian based on me not wanting to watch Clone Wars.

I love Science Fiction. Star Wars is one universe in it and I will spare it from destruction.
😉
 

champdisney

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A bit melodramatic, no?

I think 2 of us were talking about it. Unless I'm more powerful than I realize, they aren't going to change whatever vision they have for Mandalorian based on me not wanting to watch Clone Wars.

I love Science Fiction. Star Wars is one universe in it and I will spare it from destruction.
😉
Yes, you count. And yes, users across all social media platforms have said the same thing you said.
 

dreday3

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Yes, you count. And yes, users across all social media platforms have said the same thing you said.

Its going to be fine.

Although I would bet money that a lot of people will stop watching when Gogurt's (😄) storyline ends. (If it does)

And where the heck is Boba Fett?
 
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champdisney

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Its going to be fine.

Although I would bet money that a lot of people will stop watching when Gogurt's (😄) storyline ends. (If it does)
My concern depends on if the quality of the show takes an unsuspecting bad turn. The show is great as is and that’s with the inclusion of legacy/canon characters and notable nods from stories of the past.

Yet, here we are with several individuals voicing their displeasure with that decision of tying some characters and events that they are not aware of within the series. It’s the same folks that crying on Twitter all the time. No shot at you.
 

champdisney

Well-Known Member
I think that's a good guess but I had really hoped we would have seen him again already.
The man doesn’t have his armor, it’s pretty difficult to determine if his ship is also missing in the equation. Either Djarin will have to return to Tatooine at some point, Fett steals a ship or Fett does indeed still has it.
 

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