SPOILERS: Star Wars' ANDOR

sedati

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But we don't care about Mon Mothma keeping up appearances. That is about as boring as the Senate scenes in the prequels.
Star Wars has thrilling dog fights, action, war strategies and Jedi/Sith. This is a lot of people talking but not acting.
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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I'm out, it's a beautiful looking show, but there's nothing going on and it just seems like a talkfest. This just isn't for me,
Well, you gave it a try, good for you!


I gotta admit that looked pretty good. I'm definitely a Star Wars nerd because the sight of blue milk gets me excited.

Hands down the best part of the episode.

Mandalorian was a success, because there wasn't a complete idiot behind the wheel. JJ "Bad Reboot", Ruin Johnson and Kathleen "put my name on it honey" are the 3 Stooges of Star Wars.

I guess Rodriguez would have to be the Shemp of the group after what he did to poor Boba Fett.

Well you're not really out, are you?
 

MarvelCharacterNerd

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Continuing to enjoy the show. It's a slow burn but still keeping me engaged. I didn't think I wanted an OT prequel (RO), much less a prequel to the prequel, but both have been parts of the franchise I've liked most.

I'm quite content to stick with this. It holds my interest. It's very Les Mis. :) The haves and the have-nots. The plots, hopes and fears. The dreamers and the exploiters and those just trying to live their lives as best they can get by...

I always enjoy Stellan, but Genevieve O'Reilly is really magnificent in this, too. I'm captivated every moment she's onscreen. Her fabulous wardrobe helps of course!
 

MickeyMouse10

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Well you're not really out, are you?

I am until Mando or Ahsoka comes out.

Both will definitely be vastly better than "Anbore". Because Favs and Fil know how to craft a story. ... You can't just have 2 short action scenes in 5 episodes. It has to be sprinkled more throughout.

Plus where are the aliens in this show? They're on all these alien planets and I've only seen them in the background as extras.
 
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doctornick

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And there were people who complained about the episodes being to episodic and not seeming connected enough.

We're getting variety. It's nice.

Then they should be doing a full season dump on one day if they want it to be a long movie chopped into segments. Let people binge instead of drip dripping episodes that aren't whole.

I don't think Andor is the worse offender of this, but it's definitely an issue for the Marvel/Star Wars shows on D+. And it's entirely possible to have a TV show that has a connected season long plot but also have the individual episodes feel complete. I just think Disney will need to better execute these shows if they want to maintain viewership and subscriptions.
 
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doctornick

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Then he gets nagged by his Jewish mother. Poor Andor.
Andor's sister must be a Druish Princess.

I will say the home life seen for the disgraced officer seems odd and pointless. Obviously he will have some role later in the series and so they want to establish his fall from grace, but IMHO they are spending way too much time and detail on it. Feels like they could have just kept when he arrived at the house door and got slapped and had his mom say a few words about him being a disappointment then and it would have been enough; maybe another very brief scene showing him looking for work when his mom says she called in a favor with the uncle if that is a needed plot element.

But I'm sorry, I just don't care enough about this generic imperial character to see the show delve so much into him. Considering they are also jumping between Mon Mothma, Luthen, and the Imperial security folks, the scenes for this scrub just seems too much.
 

Phroobar

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I will say the home life seen for the disgraced officer seems odd and pointless. Obviously he will have some role later in the series and so they want to establish his fall from grace, but IMHO they are spending way too much time and detail on it. Feels like they could have just kept when he arrived at the house door and got slapped and had his mom say a few words about him being a disappointment then and it would have been enough; maybe another very brief scene showing him looking for work when his mom says she called in a favor with the uncle if that is a needed plot element.

But I'm sorry, I just don't care enough about this generic imperial character to see the show delve so much into him. Considering they are also jumping between Mon Mothma, Luthen, and the Imperial security folks, the scenes for this scrub just seems too much.
They all feel pointless. Luthen's scenes might have some merit as he pulls Andor's strings but we haven't seen it yet. I'm just waiting for the scene were one of the girls saves Andor's butt in the end. It still doesn't feel like Star Wars. It feels like some random scifi show.

My guess is the heist will review the names of the engineers who are building the Death Star and give Andor Jyn Erso's current location. He will probably stumble over it.
 

Screamface

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Then they should be doing a full season dump on one day if they want it to be a long movie chopped into segments. Let people binge instead of drip dripping episodes that aren't whole.

I don't think Andor is the worse offender of this, but it's definitely an issue for the Marvel/Star Wars shows on D+. And it's entirely possible to have a TV show that has a connected season long plot but also have the individual episodes feel complete. I just think Disney will need to better execute these shows if they want to maintain viewership and subscriptions.

Apparently, Andor was written in three episode blocks. If this is the case, then it should have just been released as such. Why do those blocks need to be broken into episodes?

I think they're still trying to figure out how to approach these styles of streaming shows.

With Andor's slow burn, it at least keeps building and progressing.

Rings of Power is slow but needlessly slow. It likes to establish where the plot is going. Then it sets up a bunch of road blocks and conflicts to prevent it going there. Wastes a couple of episodes getting through them. Then just goes there. It's all so pointless.

Andor just keeps building on a path. Would I have liked the hiest this week, yep. It didn't get there, but still gave us stuff heading and prepping for it. Building.
 

doctornick

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People who don't like slow burns perhaps would be best served by waiting for a season to be over and then binge it all at once.
To be clear, I don’t think there’s any problem with “slow burn” storytelling. My critique is that some D+ shows have episodes that… aren’t episodes. You can have ongoing storylines but an individual episode should have some degree of being somewhat self contained, otherwise they feel more like a movie that arbitrarily cut at a certain point.

Andor specifically has had multiple episodes that just sorta end. I actually rather like the show - it’s much closer in quality to Mando than the other SW live action shows - but it just has really odd structure. I mean, it’s streaming and you can set it up however you like, so make the length of episodes or release schedule actually correspond to and enhance the story you are telling rather just being an arbitrarily length or number.

It’s odd because I think Mandalorian and Wanda Vision both did this so incredibly well and were the first big entries from D+ - they really mastered that sort of cant wait for the next episode, water cooler talk, etc style that helped to differentiate D+ from other streamers (esp Netflix with its binge philosophy).
 

Wendy Pleakley

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If they released it in blocks or as 90-minute episodes some people would complain how long and boring each segment is until they get to the action.

They're never going to please everyone.

It's an odd way they released it, but by now we should all be used to it so it's not a big deal for me.

Having said that, they should have said upfront that it's done in 3-episode blocks. That way the abrupt endings would feel less jarring and people could decide to wait a few weeks and then binge each block if that's their preference.
 

MickeyMouse10

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Guys it's been 5 episodes, there is no excuse for the way it's been crawling. I've watched "slow burns" and this isn't one of them. I've watch a lot of British mysteries and other overseas stuff. This just feels like they're "stretching" content, because they're going through a dry spot.

Sure I think people can be critical, but that doesn't give Disney the out or excuse to churn out subpar content. It's one thing to say people are critical when something is "Awesome". But if it's "Average" or "Bad" then it should be called out for what it is. People still appreciate when something is actually good, like The Mandalorian and Spiderman: No Way Home.
 
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erasure fan1

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People who don't like slow burns perhaps would be best served by waiting for a season to be over and then binge it all at once.
The way this show has been done, binging would only help a little. There's been only one real action sequence in 5 episodes. It doesn't need to be a Michael Bay film, but this is on the complete opposite of the spectrum. A slow burn is absolutely fine. But this has been no burn so far. I'll stick with it, I'm just curious if the general public has.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Guys it's been 5 episodes, there is no excuse for the way it's been crawling. I've watched "slow burns" and this isn't one of them. I've watch a lot of British mysteries and other overseas stuff. This just feels like they're "stretching" content, because they're going through a dry spot.

Sure I think people can be critical, but that doesn't give Disney the out or excuse to churn out subpar content. It's one thing to say people are critical when something is "Awesome". But if it's "Average" or "Bad" then it should be called out for what it is. People still appreciate when something is actually good, like The Mandalorian and Spiderman: No Way Home.
I thought you were 'out'?

Yet, here you are making the same criticisms over and over again.

Looks like you've been sucked in.
 

MickeyMouse10

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I thought you were 'out'?

Yet, here you are making the same criticisms over and over again.

Looks like you've been sucked in.

LOL, I said I'm done with watching Andor. I'm not done with discussing Andor and other Star Wars related stuff though. Besides I've got new things to say and new examples.

What's it to you anyways? You act like you own Disney.
 

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