doctornick
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Enjoying so far. This feels like one of the first D+ property in a while where they realize they are doing a TV show not just a long movie cut into pieces.
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SPOILERS: Star Wars' ANDOR
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SW Fans: Disney's going to "Disneyfy Star Wars!!"
Disney: Protagonist puts a bullet in a witness's head after accidentally killing someone.
Disney: Protagonist puts a bullet in a witness's head after accidentally killing someone.
erasure fan1
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Has that been the complaint with Disney star wars? I guess it depends on the definition of Disneyfy. Most seem, like myself, to complain about the lack of vision and treatment of the brand. We knew right away they weren't going to go all G rated with it during ep7 and Rogue one. Andor right off the bat kills that informant. And Kylo stabbing solo through the chest wasn't all that tame either.
erasure fan1
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As far as this episode goes, I'm a bit surprised they went with another complete episode of exposition. This show is really well put together from a technical standpoint. They could learn a little something from Mr Miyagi. They just haven't figured out how to balance their shows.
MickeyMouse10
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Disney must have told them to stretch out the episodes. So they can have more content, because there's so much talking in this show. It ended up shooting them in the foot though, because they had to release 3 episodes on the first day. Because the first 2 didn't have enough to entice people. Like Elvis said "A little less conversation, a little more action please."
The show looks beautiful, but there just isn't enough to it right now. They are also wasting an awesome performance by Stellan Skarsgard, whose playing dual roles. Both of which seem to be opposites of one another. Around the Rebels, he's gruff and intimating. But in the presence of Non-Rebels he's flamboyant and colorful. Even his voice changes dramatically between the two variations.
The show looks beautiful, but there just isn't enough to it right now. They are also wasting an awesome performance by Stellan Skarsgard, whose playing dual roles. Both of which seem to be opposites of one another. Around the Rebels, he's gruff and intimating. But in the presence of Non-Rebels he's flamboyant and colorful. Even his voice changes dramatically between the two variations.
erasure fan1
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Yea, I like Skarsgards character as well. He could become a great star wars character. Hopefully the show hits it stride next episode as I don't know if the average viewer will stick around too much longer if it stays this slow
It was when Disney bought LucasFilm.
Yes, there have been other non-Disney things in Star Wars, like patricide. But then again, TLK had fratricide. But those doing the killing were the villains.
This is a rather profound moment for cold-blood assassination by the 'hero' of the story.
Just a point being made about the online fandom...
erasure fan1
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I thought rogue one was worse. In the show they were following and going after him. In the movie they were on the same team. LolThis is a rather profound moment for cold-blood assassination by the 'hero' of the story.
Just a point being made about the online fandom...
I can see the Disneyfy thing when it was announcemed. Most thought the same with the marvel purchase. But I don't recall much of that after ep7.
Indy_UK
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I’m finding the series OK so far. I’m fine with a slow start if it’s going to lead to something big.
Episode 4 was great with being on Corusant and everything going on so close to where the Emperor is. I felt it really added to the stakes.
While Obi-wan wasn’t perfect I did really enjoy the series but I feel they are soon going to struggle to fill in all the saga gaps with series and movies.
They need to go in a completely new direction but you can tell they are too scared to
Episode 4 was great with being on Corusant and everything going on so close to where the Emperor is. I felt it really added to the stakes.
While Obi-wan wasn’t perfect I did really enjoy the series but I feel they are soon going to struggle to fill in all the saga gaps with series and movies.
They need to go in a completely new direction but you can tell they are too scared to
MarvelCharacterNerd
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Continuing to enjoy the show though again the episode seemed to just stop rather than come to an end. Seems a creative choice at this point.
Stellan keeps being stellar!
But wow does this show lookexpensive gorgeous expensive! lol It's nice to see something where you aren't constantly aware of budget restraints and so much looks practical rather than CG!
Stellan keeps being stellar!
But wow does this show look
erasure fan1
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It's the best looking D+ show so far. But to be fair, we haven't really seen any huge action scenes that would need extensive special effects yet. So hopefully they didn't blow the budget all on the practical sets. That way we hopefully don't see a terrible Vespa scooter chase like in Fett.
erasure fan1
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Wow, another really slow episode. I'm really surprised they didn't get into the heist this episode. I really wonder if people are sticking around for this. It seems like it wouldn't be all hat interesting to the casual fan.
doctornick
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Yeah, I am pretty surprised that heist didn't occur. There's too much talking and not enough action going on; I was pretty cool with the intro of Andor to the group last episode and the distrust but don't need a whole another episode about it.
Also, we don't really need so much exposition about how the Empire is bad. We already know, they are the bad guys, no one is questioning it or needs more justification. Let's get to the good guys kicking butt.
erasure fan1
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If you're a big fan of Star wars, I have no doubt most of those people are engaged in the show. I just wonder what the average Joe casual fan thinks. What has happened so far really didn't need more than two episodes. I think most were hoping to see Cassian on cool super secret spy missions. That might still happen, they're just taking the long way to get there.
I really think Disney is struggling to figure out the TV game. They just can't seem to strike a balance with anything. Maybe they need to talk to James Gunn, he seemed to figure it out with peacemaker. So far that show is better than all of the D+ shows except Mando. I'd put both of them at the same level.
Screamface
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I'm telling people to wait until the complete season drops.
I am liking it, but it was pretty early on in this episode where I was like, "yeah, the heist will not be this week" and that was a disappointing realisation.
It really feels like a show written to be dropped at once and binged. Which is a criticism I have of a lot of writing with weekly shows now. They aren't complete or individual episodes.
From one review channel, they said a few weeks ago episodes 5 and 6 were great. I assume for them they were given access to both episodes to watch at once.
The Mon Mothra home life is so strange, I like it but don't know what to think of it.
Disney Analyst
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I like Star Wars, a casual fan if anything.
Really enjoying this so far. It has a different vibe to it, and looks really great.
Excited to continue watching this play out.
I don’t mind exposition, or slower episodes, as it usually all builds to something.
Sometimes you need to wait, and take a show as the whole entire piece (once you’ve seen it all).
This may be hard for those used to the binge model where you get pay off sooner, as you can watch all the episodes in a day or two.
Really enjoying this so far. It has a different vibe to it, and looks really great.
Excited to continue watching this play out.
I don’t mind exposition, or slower episodes, as it usually all builds to something.
Sometimes you need to wait, and take a show as the whole entire piece (once you’ve seen it all).
This may be hard for those used to the binge model where you get pay off sooner, as you can watch all the episodes in a day or two.
Indy_UK
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In a 12 episode series, im fine with the slower episodes as long as they lead to something great and I think it will this series. Where it's also based on the formation of the rebellion which is such an important part of the overall story in Star Wars, im fine with them taking there time on it
doctornick
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Meh. I think there is sometimes too much effort going into backstory or “filling in the gaps” with franchises. Big Star Wars fan but I don’t really need to know or see how the Rebellion developed (nor did I care about seeing how the Death Star plans were acquired). I mean, it’s okay to have that information shown but it’s more important to have an engaging interesting story than going out of the way to provide background. Right now Andir is too much exposition and not enough action; hope that changes soon.
erasure fan1
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Yes, it has to have a great payoff for sure. Something Disney has really had problems accomplishing. Mando did a great job of sticking the landing in both season. Everything else, not so much. This show will determine if I keep D+ going, or if I jump ship and just wait until a couple things are completely out that I want to see. And then re-activate, binge what I want, then cancel until the next batch.