SPOILERS: Obi-Wan Kenobi Disney+ Series

erasure fan1

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When writers of the show outright reveal they are unfamiliar with events that happened in the prequels. Not even rewatching the films before writing continations. What else can we expect?
You have to wonder why they even admit that. The show runners of Halo said they never played the games. At this point I just think these people are just doing it to be trolls. They have to know that all that will happen by admitting you haven't at least researched the lore of the ip, is you will make fans mad. Maybe that's the goal.
 

doctornick

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The thing that is bothering me the most is the lack of info on the Grand Inquisitor. Everyone is behaving like he is dead which is consistent with his encounter with Riva but not with Rebels. That bugs me more than any nitpicking about the prequels
 

erasure fan1

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The thing that is bothering me the most is the lack of info on the Grand Inquisitor. Everyone is behaving like he is dead which is consistent with his encounter with Riva but not with Rebels. That bugs me more than any nitpicking about the prequels
Yeah, I don't think he's dead. I remember seeing one of the show runners say something to the effect of, Canon is the most important thing. Of course I wouldn't put it past Lucasfilm to screw it up. At the same time, we are talking about a company that the person in charge said "unlike marvel we don't have 70 years of books and comics to draw from."
 

Indy_UK

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Yeah, I don't think he's dead. I remember seeing one of the show runners say something to the effect of, Canon is the most important thing. Of course I wouldn't put it past Lucasfilm to screw it up. At the same time, we are talking about a company that the person in charge said "unlike marvel we don't have 70 years of books and comics to draw from."
She actually said that? Don’t suppose you have a link?

Totally believe you but I am shocked they would say something so petty
 

erasure fan1

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She actually said that? Don’t suppose you have a link?

Totally believe you but I am shocked they would say something so petty
Here's a snip from the article.
Speaking of impulsiveness, Reva drove her lightsaber through the Grand Inquisitor at the end of Episode 2. Doesn't that go against canon? All Harold would say on the matter is how "[they] would never break canon:"

"As you know, we would never break canon. So, that's all I'll say. [Laughs.] Canon is everything... we all know where we're going in the show [from previous films and TV shows] so anytime you can undercut that, pull the rug on that, have a reversal …"
I'm sure it's probably in a few places, but here's where I saw it.
 

Screamface

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You have to wonder why they even admit that. The show runners of Halo said they never played the games. At this point I just think these people are just doing it to be trolls. They have to know that all that will happen by admitting you haven't at least researched the lore of the ip, is you will make fans mad. Maybe that's the goal.

They had to with HALO because they needed to make it clear that it is not the same as the existing cannon. Not knowing anything HALO, I actually enjoyed the TV show. It's B-grade sci-fi but I found it entertaining. It was better written than Kenobi.

It is interesting though, I can see some similar choices made that fall under the whole, "why is the Hollywood mindset making these choices to the detriment of the show." The same weird mindset that makes people want to brag or go out of their way about not knowing or being cannon.

You get the feeling that the mindset is that everything created before now has inherent flaws and they need to work to address those. So making it clear it is non-cannon or consistent is a virtue signal about "improving" the material.

While Halo is a better-made and written show. Incorporating a non-white male character to focus on is done better in Kenobi. As she's part of the story. Whatever made the shows do this, Halo just pushed it off into a separate storyline to cut away from the one you care about. At least Reva is a villain. Until she will not be.

What about Kylo, who committed genocide, murdered his own father, yet was redeemed to the point he even won the heart of the lead character by the end (by the demands of many fans for some odd reason) ?

Firstly, let's recognise that trilogy is a mess and there's no point in trying to make sense of the films as coherent is pointless.

Secondly, in The Force Awakens this issue was actually addressed. JJ and Kasdan recognised this problem and set up Kylo as struggling to fall to the dark side. He was actively fighting being pulled by the light. There's a line of him having too much of his father in him. Kylo was frustrated by the fact he wasn't just purely dark.

Killing his father was an effort in trying to kill the good in himself. Done to try and drive him further to the dark. Kylo had a plot to finish what Vader started. Which was dropped after the next writer didn't care to continue what was started in the first film. So whatever the entire motivation was never developed any further in the subsequent films. He at least originally was conceived to not fully have fallen to the dark side.
 

Indy_UK

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This episode was incredible. I was actually slightly emotional as such a die hard Star Wars fan as I think it was done so well made.

Ewan is so good in this and the cinematography is just insane. Like movie standard .

The bridging that these TV shows are doing to the main films is so well done for me.

Please give Debra Chow much more Star Wars going forward
 

mysto

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Again I feel like this is so classic Star Wars. Classic, I feel I'm watching an extension of a new hope.

I see the flaws the naysayers do, but still am just loving it. I think 5 years from now you'll all be dreaming of new content on the level of this Kenobi series. These are the "good old days" this time, don't miss it.
 

Jacob Marley

Active Member
Again I feel like this is so classic Star Wars. Classic, I feel I'm watching an extension of a new hope.

I see the flaws the naysayers do, but still am just loving it. I think 5 years from now you'll all be dreaming of new content on the level of this Kenobi series. These are the "good old days" this time, don't miss it.
I think I felt more from watching this episode than I did watching any of the sequel trilogy films.
 

LSLS

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I guess I'm alone. I still am not liking this, at all. 3rd sister is dumb to me, the cgi legit made me cringe when Vader ripped up that ship. I just dont feel invested at all for whatever reason.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
I guess I'm alone. I still am not liking this, at all. 3rd sister is dumb to me, the cgi legit made me cringe when Vader ripped up that ship. I just dont feel invested at all for whatever reason.
I feel the same unfortunately as I was really looking forward to this show.

During the shuttle escape, they were clearly getting on the shuttle closest to the door. And Obi-Wan gave no directive or subtle hint to anyone to get on the shuttle far away from them or launch both as a ruse on Vader.

So Vader picking the closest shuttle isn't some clever move by Obi-Wan about how he's still the Padawan, there was no plan... it's simply a 'gotcha' by the writers to the audience.

I could go on, but eh, it's frustrating. The flashback was neat seeing Hayden back, he did a solid job, but other than those memberberries this show has been a disappointment to me.
 

Jacob Marley

Active Member
This episode was incredible. I was actually slightly emotional as such a die hard Star Wars fan as I think it was done so well made.

Ewan is so good in this and the cinematography is just insane. Like movie standard .

The bridging that these TV shows are doing to the main films is so well done for me.

Please give Debra Chow much more Star Wars going forward
Now that the day is almost over and it's had time to stream for many, I feel better talking about the BIG spoilers in this.
(Yes, the ending was so good, I didn't feel right discussing spoilers in a spoiler discussion... just in case it ruined it for some.) 🤣

But now time has gone by.... what an ending to this week's episode. This puts all the people saying they botched Grand Inquisitor's story in Rebels to rest.
It makes Reva (3rd Sister) even more compelling, as it answers many questions about her motive, yet raises more.... how will it resolve? She obviously won't kill or do much damage (if any) to Vader. Her new knowledge of Vader's son hidden on Tatooine won't get to his ears, as we all know he doesn't become aware of any offspring until the conversation with Palps in ESB.
Or maybe she doesn't know of it being Vader's son, just some other child Obi-Wan is protecting. I need to go back and re-watch that last few minutes to hear again what exactly she heard from the transmission.
And how does she heal from the battle? Does Obi-Wan come back and save her, now that they're (possibly?) forming an alliance?
A lot answered, yet still so many questions. Again, great episode this week.
 

Jacob Marley

Active Member
One more thing, and this is just a theory.
Vader knew from the beginning Reva would turn on him. His comment "You didn't think I wouldn't recognize you, youngling!" or something like that. I'm guessing he knew her all along and only promoted her to Grand Inquisitor and showed her respect simply to tease and make the fall from honor more painful for her (while getting info he needed from her on the hunt for Obi-Wan). The real Grand Inquisitor didn't heal that quickly and just show up to take back the position. It took time and Vader was toying with her until he was ready to reclaim the title.
 

MarvelCharacterNerd

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Although the "twist" landed somewhere between "curse your sudden and inevitable betrayal!" and "Vader, stop playing with your food!" :D at least the Third Sister got to be something more than one note finally.

Definitely the best episode thus far. Totally enjoyable. Glad they brought back Kumail. Now, will he get his moment of sacrifice by pretending to be a Jedi to stall for time and save Leia and Obi-Wan, only to die once discovered?

I mean, they found a bunch of extra saber hilts for a reason, right?

Also impressed that they opted just to wig the actors for the flashback rather than de-age them. Hayden still looks closer to his 41 than 21, but it still worked and it was a solid return to character.
 

Jedijax719

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WOW that was a friggin' AMAZING episode! I was tense through the whole thing.

How in the world will they wrap things up with just one episode? Does anyone know whether it will be longer than the others? And will we see Qui-Gon?

I have a feeling that
Luke is going to inadvertently do something really strong in the Force without realizing it that stops either Reva or the Grand Inquisitor
.
 

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