SPOILER: The Acolyte -- Disney+ Star Wars -- begins June 5, 2024

[Hawkeye_2018]

I remember when Acolyte was first announced, it was described as almost a murder mystery, which it really wasn't.

Will be interesting to see if they eventually continue this story through books or comics

 

[Phroobar]

 

[flynnibus]

I remember when Acolyte was first announced, it was described as almost a murder mystery, which it really wasn't.

What are you talking about? If you were the characters it was... and we also didn't know for sure what the jedi did or why... until the end.

Unless you are the type that just wanted to spill the beans at the start of the story because you found it dumb to learn all the answers later.

 

[easyrowrdw]

While we're just talking Star Wars, I'm curious if anyone knows how Lucas planned to end the sequel trilogy. From what I've read, many of main elements of 7 and 8 (Kylo, Rey, Leia, and even Luke as a disillusioned hermit) were largely in line with Lucas's ideas. Disney added quite a bit (in 7) and did others much differently (not reuniting the original characters). But I've never seen anything about what was "supposed" to happen in the end. I can't imagine it was the same as how Disney ultimately did it, given how discordant 9 is with the other movies. Have Lucas's plans for the end ever leaked? Did he have any?

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

What are you talking about? If you were the characters it was... and we also didn't know for sure what the jedi did or why... until the end.

Unless you are the type that just wanted to spill the beans at the start of the story because you found it dumb to learn all the answers later.

The "mystery" was poorly telegraphed and not that interesting. This was really just a generic SW live action no different than most previous SW series.

 

[flynnibus]

This was really just a generic SW live action no different than most previous SW series.

Hot take...

 

[MisterPenguin]

In my opinion, hiring JJ and letting him do his whole mystery box thing was the root mistake. It’s not just that he didn’t coordinate with the other film makers, but he didn’t have any sort of actual idea of what he was setting up.

It's almost like he was.... LOST.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

While we're just talking Star Wars, I'm curious if anyone knows how Lucas planned to end the sequel trilogy. From what I've read, many of main elements of 7 and 8 (Kylo, Rey, Leia, and even Luke as a disillusioned hermit) were largely in line with Lucas's ideas. Disney added quite a bit (in 7) and did others much differently (not reuniting the original characters). But I've never seen anything about what was "supposed" to happen in the end. I can't imagine it was the same as how Disney ultimately did it, given how discordant 9 is with the other movies. Have Lucas's plans for the end ever leaked? Did he have any?

Supposedly when GL met with Disney, he handed over his treatments for the new trilogy and said "Now picture this....somehow Palpatine has returned". Disney immediately cut him a huge check.

 

[Phroobar]

While we're just talking Star Wars, I'm curious if anyone knows how Lucas planned to end the sequel trilogy. From what I've read, many of main elements of 7 and 8 (Kylo, Rey, Leia, and even Luke as a disillusioned hermit) were largely in line with Lucas's ideas. Disney added quite a bit (in 7) and did others much differently (not reuniting the original characters). But I've never seen anything about what was "supposed" to happen in the end. I can't imagine it was the same as how Disney ultimately did it, given how discordant 9 is with the other movies. Have Lucas's plans for the end ever leaked? Did he have any?

Well it wasn't a requel which is what we got. A google search will come up with lots of stuff including Darth Maul's return.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No, because a company in the 21st century doesn't work like that.

You want to call Stanford and explain it to them? I bet there’s a paper to come out of that wisdom, yoda

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Supposedly when GL met with Disney, he handed over his treatments for the new trilogy and said "Now picture this....somehow Palpatine has returned". Disney immediately cut him a huge check.

I don’t really doubt that…because he had lost all semblance of understanding at that point.

Just as when Disney told the original screenwriter of ep 7 “you can’t have Luke Skywalker…he’ll steal the whole movie!”

This stuff is actually too stupid to make up

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If they cancel a show in a forest and no one is there to watch it…did it ever really happen?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

While we're just talking Star Wars, I'm curious if anyone knows how Lucas planned to end the sequel trilogy. From what I've read, many of main elements of 7 and 8 (Kylo, Rey, Leia, and even Luke as a disillusioned hermit) were largely in line with Lucas's ideas. Disney added quite a bit (in 7) and did others much differently (not reuniting the original characters). But I've never seen anything about what was "supposed" to happen in the end. I can't imagine it was the same as how Disney ultimately did it, given how discordant 9 is with the other movies. Have Lucas's plans for the end ever leaked? Did he have any?

Lucas was so shot that the only way he’d ever rebuild his street cred was if whoever he sold it to did such a disaster that he looked good in comparison

…in other news: Lucas street cred up in after hours trading by about 300% in 5 years

 

[Disney Irish]

You want to call Stanford and explain it to them? I bet there’s a paper to come out of that wisdom, yoda

I don't need to, you're the one making the claim of loss potential in the Billions not me. The burden of proof is on you, and no your college buddies from Lego don't count.

So produce the evidence or drop it as its not something you can actually prove.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't need to, you're the one making the claim of loss potential in the Billions not me. The burden of proof is on you, and no your college buddies from Lego don't count.

So produce the evidence or drop it as its not something you can actually prove.

…so you’re appealing to ignorance?

 

[Disney Irish]

…so you’re appealing to ignorance?

Nope, I'm asking you to show your homework. You make all these unsubstantiated claims and now I'm calling you out on it to prove it.

So prove to me with actual proof that Disney has indeed lost Billions in potential earnings on SW. And just like in math class in grade school remember to show your work how you came up with the answer. Because I'm fairly certain you got no way to prove any claim you've made.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Well it wasn't a requel which is what we got. A google search will come up with lots of stuff including Darth Maul's return.

I hadn't heard that. I did some more googling and saw what you were referring to. It's interesting that different sites seem to have different stories about what Lucas planned. All of them seem to say it was more rough outlines (not scripts) though. I wonder if it changed over time. Anyway, thanks for the info!

Just as when Disney told the original screenwriter of ep 7 “you can’t have Luke Skywalker…he’ll steal the whole movie!”

This stuff is actually too stupid to make up

That it is one thing that I saw consistently. Disney pushed a lot of Lucas's ideas (particularly Luke) from 7 to 8. I guess they wanted to focus more on Han and do one original character per movie kind of thing. Of course, that came at the expense of the original group and their dynamics

 

[Disney Irish]

All of them seem to say it was more rough outlines (not scripts) though.

It was basically a treatment which George handed over to Disney, which is a rough summary of the basic ideas for the film(s). Its not a full screenplay, or even a spec script.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I hadn't heard that. I did some more googling and saw what you were referring to. It's interesting that different sites seem to have different stories about what Lucas planned. All of them seem to say it was more rough outlines (not scripts) though. I wonder if it changed over time. Anyway, thanks for the info!

If you believe anyone who worked for George…”planning” didn’t seem to be on his radar

That it is one thing that I saw consistently. Disney pushed a lot of Lucas's ideas (particularly Luke) from 7 to 8. I guess they wanted to focus more on Han and do one original character per movie kind of thing. Of course, that came at the expense of the original group and their dynamics

I interpreted it differently…but we still end up in the same place

 

[Phroobar]

I hadn't heard that. I did some more googling and saw what you were referring to. It's interesting that different sites seem to have different stories about what Lucas planned. All of them seem to say it was more rough outlines (not scripts) though. I wonder if it changed over time. Anyway, thanks for the info!

That it is one thing that I saw consistently. Disney pushed a lot of Lucas's ideas (particularly Luke) from 7 to 8. I guess they wanted to focus more on Han and do one original character per movie kind of thing. Of course, that came at the expense of the original group and their dynamics

Just like now, Disney had no vision or over arcing plans for Star Wars. They are throwing things at the wall hoping it sticks and they will milk that thing to death. See Baby Yoda.

Disney thought making a Star Wars movie is easy. They found they where gravely mistaken. It is an extremely difficult thing to do.